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Also and archer happily tanks 4 axers due to them never hitting, but again you're choosing the two extremes, with an outrageous hit rate archers shouldn't be hurting axers
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#61 2018/08/10 07:36:25 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Loool and just loool 4 axer's vs1 archer i wana come home and show u how this archer gona be perma stoned til 0pots and maybe 10penalty and also drop gears u konf of joke man.
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#62 2018/08/10 10:01:52 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Sto taking cuz more and more showing how u trying to make the change on ur favor :) bullfer's
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#63 2018/08/10 10:03:24 |
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SAM0 |
"MERLIN"I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running I have a rough idea, mages can't run evasion aura + full dex build to avoid archers more?
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running
And my point is anyone can switch their armours to substantially lessen the damage mages do, mages dont have that option, the massive damage received is in the best armour there is[/quote]
I have a rough idea, mages can't run evasion aura + full dex build to avoid archers more? [/quote]
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#64 2018/08/10 10:10:08 |
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WAGAWAGA |
The biggest mistake here they calling archer op and none of them use him on pvp and they have loads :) wonder why
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#65 2018/08/10 10:13:00 |
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"MERLIN"Also and archer happily tanks 4 axers due to them never hitting, but again you're choosing the two extremes, with an outrageous hit rate archers shouldn't be hurting axers Love how you say "never hitting" when they take massive chunks of hp from archer on hit and have a real good hit rate these days, + there is accuracy Ingame but no evasion, why make it easier for axers to hit archers but not give archers any evasion? Just check kekkets recent feed, he has died to archers 4x and killed archers 19x. When you think of how he messes about loads in PvP willing to just stand there in a 5vs1 when his team are re-potting or whatever... Crazy how you can still claim axers never hit /bow is OP/ axers aren't OP. Just like coven all over again picking and choosing what classes your guild play to try and get the rest nerfed while keeping your chars strong, hopefully Gms won't fall for it a second time.
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]Also and archer happily tanks 4 axers due to them never hitting, but again you're choosing the two extremes, with an outrageous hit rate archers shouldn't be hurting axers[/quote]
Love how you say "never hitting" when they take massive chunks of hp from archer on hit and have a real good hit rate these days, + there is accuracy Ingame but no evasion, why make it easier for axers to hit archers but not give archers any evasion?
Just check kekkets recent feed, he has died to archers 4x and killed archers 19x.
When you think of how he messes about loads in PvP willing to just stand there in a 5vs1 when his team are re-potting or whatever...
Crazy how you can still claim axers never hit /bow is OP/ axers aren't OP.
Just like coven all over again picking and choosing what classes your guild play to try and get the rest nerfed while keeping your chars strong, hopefully Gms won't fall for it a second time. [/quote]
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#66 2018/08/10 10:15:41 |
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WAGAWAGA |
If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!!
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#67 2018/08/10 10:18:37 |
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"WAGAWAGA"If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!! Yeah they will always try it... Even before balance patch there was loads of them on test server saying "axers need more con/mages are too weak, blah blah blah" Luckily Gm's did not listen to them and did it their own way and right now we've got the game more balanced than it ever has been. Keep up the good work Gm's and try not to let them talk you into nerfs/buffs for certain classes that aren't needed
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="WAGAWAGA"]If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!![/quote]
Yeah they will always try it... Even before balance patch there was loads of them on test server saying "axers need more con/mages are too weak, blah blah blah"
Luckily Gm's did not listen to them and did it their own way and right now we've got the game more balanced than it ever has been.
Keep up the good work Gm's and try not to let them talk you into nerfs/buffs for certain classes that aren't needed
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#68 2018/08/10 10:26:22 |
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"SAM0""WAGAWAGA"If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!! That's a blatant lie right there Axer was quite weak on test server, it's one of the reasons devil ally and yellow pills was added to the game You can say as many times as you want that archers aint op, dosnt change the fact that there's more archers ingame than any other class, that speaks for itself
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="SAM0"][quote="WAGAWAGA"]If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!![/quote]
Yeah they will always try it... Even before balance patch there was loads of them on test server saying "axers need more con/mages are too weak, blah blah blah"
Luckily Gm's did not listen to them and did it their own way and right now we've got the game more balanced than it ever has been.
Keep up the good work Gm's and try not to let them talk you into nerfs/buffs for certain classes that aren't needed
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That's a blatant lie right there
Axer was quite weak on test server, it's one of the reasons devil ally and yellow pills was added to the game
You can say as many times as you want that archers aint op, dosnt change the fact that there's more archers ingame than any other class, that speaks for itself [/quote]
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#69 2018/08/10 10:56:09 |
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"JAHEIRA""SAM0""WAGAWAGA"If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!! That is not a lie. People were saying on test server "need higher con tiered across the board, axers/spears getting the most then sword/knux/bow getting less" Devil ally and yellow pills are equal con for all classes they aren't one class getting more con than the other like a few people were spamming for. Even with the balance we have Ingame today slayer is still saying how axers/spears should be given more con than other classes "SLAYER" Do people really think axers need more con/archer need a nerf? (crazy if so) Or is it the same old standard try to nerf every other class that the rival guild has a majority of while buffing the main chars we have... I'm all for balancing classes I said this mage aura idea would be good and imo spear users do need a slight con buff, That's despite us having only 2? Mages and 1 spear user while Encore/DL/AP have about 8 mages and 3-4 spear users. I want a balanced game, I don't want to just buff classes that we have while trying to nerf the rival guilds majority of cllasses
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="SAM0"][quote="WAGAWAGA"]If it was guild of spear they was trying to nerf spear,aso against axer,sword,magic, they ill never done they always trying to have easy life.done!![/quote]
Yeah they will always try it... Even before balance patch there was loads of them on test server saying "axers need more con/mages are too weak, blah blah blah"
Luckily Gm's did not listen to them and did it their own way and right now we've got the game more balanced than it ever has been.
Keep up the good work Gm's and try not to let them talk you into nerfs/buffs for certain classes that aren't needed
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That's a blatant lie right there
Axer was quite weak on test server, it's one of the reasons devil ally and yellow pills was added to the game
You can say as many times as you want that archers aint op, dosnt change the fact that there's more archers ingame than any other class, that speaks for itself [/quote]
That is not a lie.
People were saying on test server "need higher con tiered across the board, axers/spears getting the most then sword/knux/bow getting less"
Devil ally and yellow pills are equal con for all classes they aren't one class getting more con than the other like a few people were spamming for.
Even with the balance we have Ingame today slayer is still saying how axers/spears should be given more con than other classes
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The dex gap should stay the same as it is now (no increase or decrease), but allocate more points to spend in con for other classes, with spear gaining the most, then axe, sword, knuckle, mage.
Just my opinion though.[/quote]
Do people really think axers need more con/archer need a nerf? (crazy if so) Or is it the same old standard try to nerf every other class that the rival guild has a majority of while buffing the main chars we have...
I'm all for balancing classes I said this mage aura idea would be good and imo spear users do need a slight con buff,
That's despite us having only 2? Mages and 1 spear user while Encore/DL/AP have about 8 mages and 3-4 spear users.
I want a balanced game, I don't want to just buff classes that we have while trying to nerf the rival guilds majority of cllasses[/quote]
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#70 2018/08/10 11:36:52 |
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just maybe we fight guild of axers mixed with magic mr jaheira but we not crying at all on forum,but u guys trying all the way to make the change on ur favor as always,slayer,thehood,manticore,evil_jr,quincy,daryl_dixon.devastation,and alot off more archers on ur side not even log,why u guys dont use em"archers so op isnt it"
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"]just maybe we fight guild of axers mixed with magic mr jaheira but we not crying at all on forum,but u guys trying all the way to make the change on ur favor as always,slayer,thehood,manticore,evil_jr,quincy,daryl_dixon.devastation,and alot off more archers on ur side not even log,why u guys dont use em"archers so op isnt it" [/quote]
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#71 2018/08/10 11:38:25 |
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JAHEIRA |
So what you trying to say waga? Everyone should share there chars ?
Some of the names u mentioned are used and some are used by the original players only, and they have somthing called a life and can't attend every gv/pk. Also ppl ask for stuff cos they feel its what the game needs, not trying to get mutiny/efukt nerf like you keep suggesting If spear was over powered id say, as unlike some I look for a better game than just trying to keep myself ahead Archer is op, not because of a single 1 thing, but because of everything combined together, dex, hit rate, range, zombie 2% proc with the hit rate of archer. Loads have been suggested, noone said to do them all, where not trying to make them the weakest class ingame. as you have pointed out, we have archers as well Id much rather see devil soma with even number of different class's, and not just bow and axe
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]So what you trying to say waga? Everyone should share there chars ?
Some of the names u mentioned are used and some are used by the original players only, and they have somthing called a life and can't attend every gv/pk.
Also ppl ask for stuff cos they feel its what the game needs, not trying to get mutiny/efukt nerf like you keep suggesting
If spear was over powered id say, as unlike some I look for a better game than just trying to keep myself ahead
Archer is op, not because of a single 1 thing, but because of everything combined together, dex, hit rate, range, zombie 2% proc with the hit rate of archer.
Loads have been suggested, noone said to do them all, where not trying to make them the weakest class ingame. as you have pointed out, we have archers as well
Id much rather see devil soma with even number of different class's, and not just bow and axe
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#72 2018/08/10 13:12:25 |
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"JAHEIRA"So what you trying to say waga? Everyone should share there chars ? lol jah encore about 10 player at max explain how did u get 20+ every pvp/gwv ofc u sharing,and this not my point just to show u u guys sharing not only waga:) second u keep looking for 2% zombie that archer wear w8 a second magic using 8% weaken ring +pro that mean 1 hit can take 90% of my dmg with sometimes why not nerfing em,ohh he can feather to he got a range??? and finaly u cant let magic stand there with that insane dmg without nerf hes dmg lol as u did befor on axer u trying the same on magic!!! answer please w8ing:)
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"][quote="JAHEIRA"]So what you trying to say waga? Everyone should share there chars ?
Some of the names u mentioned are used and some are used by the original players only, and they have somthing called a life and can't attend every gv/pk.
Also ppl ask for stuff cos they feel its what the game needs, not trying to get mutiny/efukt nerf like you keep suggesting
If spear was over powered id say, as unlike some I look for a better game than just trying to keep myself ahead
Archer is op, not because of a single 1 thing, but because of everything combined together, dex, hit rate, range, zombie 2% proc with the hit rate of archer.
Loads have been suggested, noone said to do them all, where not trying to make them the weakest class ingame. as you have pointed out, we have archers as well
Id much rather see devil soma with even number of different class's, and not just bow and axe
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lol jah encore about 10 player at max explain how did u get 20+ every pvp/gwv ofc u sharing,and this not my point just to show u u guys sharing not only waga:)
second u keep looking for 2% zombie that archer wear w8 a second magic using 8% weaken ring +pro that mean 1 hit can take 90% of my dmg with sometimes why not nerfing em,ohh he can feather to he got a range???
and finaly u cant let magic stand there with that insane dmg without nerf hes dmg lol as u did befor on axer u trying the same on magic!!! answer please w8ing:)[/quote]
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#73 2018/08/10 14:37:34 |
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"SAM0""MERLIN"I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running I can't be bothered to reply to all the posts on here...but you really think that's going to help much if the archer is wearing dex gear? lol. Would mean they never have a chance of killing the archer for the sake of possibly allowing them to cast the odd extra hit. So how would that help them if they can no longer stand a chance of a proc or extra MA etc etc for the sake of evading the odd extra hit? Also doesn't work as an attacking stat for a mage obviously...as it does for any melee class. Add in two archers they can't hit at all again and then they run off, pre cast, run in and....finish the sentence. Stop cherry picking and making it look like something it isn't.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running
And my point is anyone can switch their armours to substantially lessen the damage mages do, mages dont have that option, the massive damage received is in the best armour there is[/quote]
I have a rough idea, mages can't run evasion aura + full dex build to avoid archers more? [/quote]
I can't be bothered to reply to all the posts on here...but you really think that's going to help much if the archer is wearing dex gear? lol.
Would mean they never have a chance of killing the archer for the sake of possibly allowing them to cast the odd extra hit.
So how would that help them if they can no longer stand a chance of a proc or extra MA etc etc for the sake of evading the odd extra hit? Also doesn't work as an attacking stat for a mage obviously...as it does for any melee class.
Add in two archers they can't hit at all again and then they run off, pre cast, run in and....finish the sentence.
Stop cherry picking and making it look like something it isn't.[/quote]
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#74 2018/08/10 14:41:38 |
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"SLAYER""SAM0""MERLIN"I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running No cherry picking here... I said all along they suffer vs archer but they have a huge advantage vs 4 melle classes (do you disagree with this?) What would happen 2 mages vs an axer? (Or any melle for that matter) range +feathers+ precast. One precasts weaken the other has X % to one shot said melle before they can even get in range What's so bad about 1 class suffering against another but doing fine against 4 more? Archer quite clearly struggle vs axer, but they are fine against other classes... Same shit different class. Evasion / Dex build doesn't help Hsoma mages as an attacking stat but they still gear towards it. If archers are wearing dex gear that means they aren't really damaging axers. Stop trying to get the majority of your guilds classes buffed and focus more on balance in the game. (imo it's almost perfectly balanced at the mo)
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running
And my point is anyone can switch their armours to substantially lessen the damage mages do, mages dont have that option, the massive damage received is in the best armour there is[/quote]
I have a rough idea, mages can't run evasion aura + full dex build to avoid archers more? [/quote]
I can't be bothered to reply to all the posts on here...but you really think that's going to help much if the archer is wearing dex gear? lol.
Would mean they never have a chance of killing the archer for the sake of possibly allowing them to cast the odd extra hit.
So how would that help them if they can no longer stand a chance of a proc or extra MA etc etc for the sake of evading the odd extra hit? Also doesn't work as an attacking stat for a mage obviously...as it does for any melee class.
Add in two archers they can't hit at all again and then they run off, pre cast, run in and....finish the sentence.
Stop cherry picking and making it look like something it isn't.[/quote]
No cherry picking here... I said all along they suffer vs archer but they have a huge advantage vs 4 melle classes (do you disagree with this?)
What would happen 2 mages vs an axer? (Or any melle for that matter) range +feathers+ precast. One precasts weaken the other has X % to one shot said melle before they can even get in range
What's so bad about 1 class suffering against another but doing fine against 4 more?
Archer quite clearly struggle vs axer, but they are fine against other classes... Same shit different class.
Evasion / Dex build doesn't help Hsoma mages as an attacking stat but they still gear towards it. If archers are wearing dex gear that means they aren't really damaging axers.
Stop trying to get the majority of your guilds classes buffed and focus more on balance in the game. (imo it's almost perfectly balanced at the mo)
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