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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Hear me out on this one before people start moaning about nerfs of anything.
Currently Wisdom is the defensive stat for dsoma and Constitution is the defensive stat. We have two scenarios. 1) Devil archers are arguably overpowered due to the high con and high attack this is shown by the clear number of devil archers in the game. 2) Devil mages struggle in pve/pvp due to the slow wisdom/int ratio. What I'm suggesting 1) Intel is used for a magic defensive stat for dsoma - Every class other than mage on soma has almost identical int/wis 2) Strength is used for defense stat for dsoma* - this would lower defense of devils somewhat from a pvp aspect offering better percent wars. This would also mean that each class has a role to play axers and spear users would become more popular. Archers maintain the high attack but we don't have the issue with con disparity and high defense. * We would need a purpose for dsoma con which could be in the form of HP similar to hsoma. Let me know your thoughts.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Hear me out on this one before people start moaning about nerfs of anything.
Currently Wisdom is the defensive stat for dsoma and Constitution is the defensive stat.
[b]We have two scenarios.[/b]
1) Devil archers are arguably overpowered due to the high con and high attack this is shown by the clear number of devil archers in the game.
2) Devil mages struggle in pve/pvp due to the slow wisdom/int ratio.
[b]What I'm suggesting[/b]
1) Intel is used for a magic defensive stat for dsoma - Every class other than mage on soma has almost identical int/wis
2) Strength is used for defense stat for dsoma* - this would lower defense of devils somewhat from a pvp aspect offering better percent wars. This would also mean that each class has a role to play axers and spear users would become more popular.
Archers maintain the high attack but we don't have the issue with con disparity and high defense.
* We would need a purpose for dsoma con which could be in the form of HP similar to hsoma.
Let me know your thoughts.[/quote]
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#1 2014/04/12 15:13:16 |
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STONES |
hmm nice idea but wot bout knux they have shit con
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#2 2014/04/12 15:20:09 |
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IBEX |
Not bad ideas, Another major issue in my eyes is the fact that every class has to do hours of punching to become half decent. Was wondering if anyone could see an easy fix for this without making dsoma OP obviously. Maybe a tough quest infrastructure for the stat you are trying to achieve by punching, str for mage int for melee classes?
Thanks
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[quote="IBEX"]Not bad ideas, Another major issue in my eyes is the fact that every class has to do hours of punching to become half decent. Was wondering if anyone could see an easy fix for this without making dsoma OP obviously. Maybe a tough quest infrastructure for the stat you are trying to achieve by punching, str for mage int for melee classes?
Thanks
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#3 2014/04/12 15:24:28 |
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NAIKOFIG |
archers dont have high atk and the only reason they are left is coz its ranged(easier to skip mobs and get better stats earlier/ easier pvp & rvr) and the dex diff between them and the other classes the int change seems nice especially for RvR
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#4 2014/04/12 15:29:39 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
"STONES"hmm nice idea but wot bout knux they have shit con Then they would benefit with more defense in this change. |
#5 2014/04/12 15:31:45 |
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CARNAGE |
It's not really the con and attack that make archers good because their attack is pretty low it's the range and the dex, just my opinion though.
Those ideas alright if they're open to trial first? |
#6 2014/04/12 15:33:07 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
"NAIKOFIG"archers dont have high atk and the only reason they are left is coz its ranged(easier to skip mobs and get better stats earlier/ easier pvp & rvr) and the dex diff between them and the other classes the int change seems nice especially for RvR Out of all classes archers are the ones with the highest str/con disparity.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="NAIKOFIG"]archers dont have high atk and the only reason they are left is coz its ranged(easier to skip mobs and get better stats earlier/ easier pvp & rvr) and the dex diff between them and the other classes the int change seems nice especially for RvR[/quote]
Out of all classes archers are the ones with the highest str/con disparity. [/quote]
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#7 2014/04/12 15:33:21 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
"CARNAGE"It's not really the con and attack that make archers good because their attack is pretty low it's the range and the dex, just my opinion though. If that's the case then this change won't be a problem for them? Theyd just have a little less defense but the entirely same attack.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="CARNAGE"]It's not really the con and attack that make archers good because their attack is pretty low it's the range and the dex, just my opinion though.[/quote]
If that's the case then this change won't be a problem for them? Theyd just have a little less defense but the entirely same attack.[/quote]
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#8 2014/04/12 15:33:50 |
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KEKKET |
Good idea, So this means axe/spear have higher str on same lvl as archers but still got lower dex so axers do more dmg on same lvl as archer but the chance u hit them is low.
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#9 2014/04/12 15:34:30 |
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FUJITORA |
My devil is now almost level 60 and i am just wondering...
What dex does each class end up at 100? |
#10 2014/04/12 15:37:00 |
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NAIKOFIG |
187 will be dex capped b4 100 so basicly every archer will if you make it that high dunno for others
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#11 2014/04/12 15:40:13 |
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ARROW |
Hmm last time i seen carnage hit+5th on alucard. left him on 15-20%ish hp (think alucard is a few levels higher) with less defence and same level/better tag/upgraded wep wouldn't swordy hit+5th archer in one?
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#12 2014/04/12 16:27:30 |
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RELINA |
Devil mages struggle in pvp due to the amount of interrupts from archers
Need to worry about Devil mage Vs devil mage dmg with a MD buff also It levels our magic defence with that of humans, but then were still on reduced % Also mean that DD would do min dmg nakid to some mages :P
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[quote="RELINA"]Devil mages struggle in pvp due to the amount of interrupts from archers
Need to worry about Devil mage Vs devil mage dmg with a MD buff also
It levels our magic defence with that of humans, but then were still on reduced %
Also mean that DD would do min dmg nakid to some mages :P
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#13 2014/04/12 16:44:19 |
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KRONARG |
Absolutely hate this idea for melee, I'd personally only be losing 3-4 def, but that's not the point, dsoma and hsoma are different, they're meant to be different and should be different imo. Fine to balance things a little but this is just turning us into hsoma by degrees. May as well turn all devils pink and let us use any weapon.
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[quote="KRONARG"]Absolutely hate this idea for melee, I'd personally only be losing 3-4 def, but that's not the point, dsoma and hsoma are different, they're meant to be different and should be different imo. Fine to balance things a little but this is just turning us into hsoma by degrees. May as well turn all devils pink and let us use any weapon.
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#14 2014/04/12 16:45:12 |
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ARROW |
Think i'm too low to notice the gap between archers and other classes. but as is, a swordy 2-3 levels lower still beats me in 4/10 duels.
Pretty sure someone said the "test" server was up for 3 years o.0 |
#15 2014/04/12 17:00:25 |
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