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Lupi you post these post every month or so whwn you had bad luck.

You know the risk when you click that upgrade button, and if your ripping main gear and you got nothing left its ur own fault, thats my golden rule.

Your also solo player who hardly trades and dsnt focus on 1 item at a time.

If i was you i would use leapfrog rule, trade all ur loot for what ever items ur trying to make. And keep going till u hit it
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[quote="SUBXERO"]Lupi you post these post every month or so whwn you had bad luck. You know the risk when you click that upgrade button, and if your ripping main gear and you got nothing left its ur own fault, thats my golden rule. Your also solo player who hardly trades and dsnt focus on 1 item at a time. If i was you i would use leapfrog rule, trade all ur loot for what ever items ur trying to make. And keep going till u hit it[/quote]
Perhaps with 200 craft skill i shudnt have to make these posts every month..however i see your point.. u have everything and the anvil is fine.. my point is.. possibly other players including myself ,might want a little bit more.
Maybe there might be a few more players around if there was a slightly kinder system.
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]Perhaps with 200 craft skill i shudnt have to make these posts every month..however i see your point.. u have everything and the anvil is fine.. my point is.. possibly other players including myself ,might want a little bit more. Maybe there might be a few more players around if there was a slightly kinder system. [/quote]
For the solo player lupi is right soma is a nightmare.

The average solo player can’t grind as much as some of us for whatever reasons.

At this stage of the game with shak weaps being easier to obtain and a new their in nega weaps maybe it’s time that there was a good level based quest for say apus tier weaps at B speed for people to level with.

I for one see no issue with a lower level getting a B speed weap to try and progress with.
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[quote="TYRESE"]For the solo player lupi is right soma is a nightmare. The average solo player can’t grind as much as some of us for whatever reasons. At this stage of the game with shak weaps being easier to obtain and a new their in nega weaps maybe it’s time that there was a good level based quest for say apus tier weaps at B speed for people to level with. I for one see no issue with a lower level getting a B speed weap to try and progress with.[/quote]
Have to say this is a good idea!
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[quote="DEVASTATION"]Have to say this is a good idea![/quote]
Obviously a knuckle would get a speed buff past B s they start at A and swords etc too. But you get the basic idea.

Maybe put them at +4 so that if they wanted to try and up it when they make a back up stinger weap they can go higher. I haven’t thought too much into it. Or keep them unpgradable maybe.

It’s food for thought and I think it would really help the lower levels stay happy and playing.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Obviously a knuckle would get a speed buff past B s they start at A and swords etc too. But you get the basic idea. Maybe put them at +4 so that if they wanted to try and up it when they make a back up stinger weap they can go higher. I haven’t thought too much into it. Or keep them unpgradable maybe. It’s food for thought and I think it would really help the lower levels stay happy and playing.[/quote]
The +1 but no stats added is a no brainier imo.

How would more people having decent gear ruin the game anyway? Would just make for more people inclined to join in pvp, at least that is how I see it.
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[quote="SAL3M"]The +1 but no stats added is a no brainier imo. How would more people having decent gear ruin the game anyway? Would just make for more people inclined to join in pvp, at least that is how I see it.[/quote]
"SAL3M"The +1 but no stats added is a no brainier imo.

How would more people having decent gear ruin the game anyway? Would just make for more people inclined to join in pvp, at least that is how I see it.


yes

same half a dozen ppl doin all the pk...coz they got the big gear... not much fun for others.. but nvm..the anvil is 'fine'

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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="SAL3M"]The +1 but no stats added is a no brainier imo. How would more people having decent gear ruin the game anyway? Would just make for more people inclined to join in pvp, at least that is how I see it.[/quote] yes same half a dozen ppl doin all the pk...coz they got the big gear... not much fun for others.. but nvm..the anvil is 'fine' .[/quote]
Seems reasonable at first, but it needs to be all thought through. Great for the the short term but definitley a catastophic idea for the game long term.

As the +1 and no stats flaw has already been pointed out, maybe the work around for that could be for a failed ToE/SS addition, you increase the item level by +1 and you gain recoil (equiv of whatever the ToE/SS would have removed). Obviously this could work for other stuff; RDT +/- 1 STR etc.

More reasonable but still a terrible long term idea - it means pretty much every upgraded item from the point of 'new rule' introduction would remain in the game indefinitley (unless NPCd or broken by repair) which wouldnt be great. How common is it for someone to try upgrade 10+ items in a session. Imagine if they never left the game..

It'd be fine for a while but after a certain amount of time, with no upgrades failing, all these 'low end' upgrades (which the bar will raise the quality of what is considered 'low end' higher and higher as time progresses as they never are removed from the game) will mean that every single person in the game from day dot would have upgraded everything - items worthless, economy gone. Sounds like a poor idea.
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[quote="MISERICORD"]Seems reasonable at first, but it needs to be all thought through. Great for the the short term but definitley a catastophic idea for the game long term. As the +1 and no stats flaw has already been pointed out, maybe the work around for that could be for a failed ToE/SS addition, you increase the item level by +1 and you gain recoil (equiv of whatever the ToE/SS would have removed). Obviously this could work for other stuff; RDT +/- 1 STR etc. More reasonable but still a terrible long term idea - it means pretty much every upgraded item from the point of 'new rule' introduction would remain in the game indefinitley (unless NPCd or broken by repair) which wouldnt be great. How common is it for someone to try upgrade 10+ items in a session. Imagine if they never left the game.. It'd be fine for a while but after a certain amount of time, with no upgrades failing, all these 'low end' upgrades (which the bar will raise the quality of what is considered 'low end' higher and higher as time progresses as they never are removed from the game) will mean that every single person in the game from day dot would have upgraded everything - items worthless, economy gone. Sounds like a poor idea.[/quote]
ZzzzzzzzZzZzzzzzzzzzz. Lupi your main post says Everyone has maxed out gear but your wanting the anvil to be easier lol. You are contradicting yourself straight away.
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[quote="LEONARDO"]ZzzzzzzzZzZzzzzzzzzzz. Lupi your main post says Everyone has maxed out gear but your wanting the anvil to be easier lol. You are contradicting yourself straight away.[/quote]
i've always admired your reading skills hurrricane.
If u put the same effort into the game as the forum.. u might have a half decent character by now
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]i've always admired your reading skills hurrricane. If u put the same effort into the game as the forum.. u might have a half decent character by now[/quote]
I'm with hurricane on this one, you say "all these +8s around" then complain anvils to hard...

I agree anvil can be a bitch at times but that's part of the game... Anyone breaking 2 outta the 3 weps they have without a back-up wep is crazy, why risk breaking a +7 that's more than enough for hunting /pk all for a 40-80? Recoil boost, you'd hardly even notice this difference
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[quote="WEEEEEEEEEP"]I'm with hurricane on this one, you say "all these +8s around" then complain anvils to hard... I agree anvil can be a bitch at times but that's part of the game... Anyone breaking 2 outta the 3 weps they have without a back-up wep is crazy, why risk breaking a +7 that's more than enough for hunting /pk all for a 40-80? Recoil boost, you'd hardly even notice this difference [/quote]
I would prefer my items to brake rather then having fake + to it.

Tbh if this come into play I would b removing the game from my laptop as it would b yet another stupid and pointless thing added to the game.
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[quote="WIIDEVLAR"]I would prefer my items to brake rather then having fake + to it. Tbh if this come into play I would b removing the game from my laptop as it would b yet another stupid and pointless thing added to the game.[/quote]
I still wanna deal damage to Negamare as a Mage, has any sort of maths gone into the difference in dps when it comes to melee vs Mage, I mean 99% of Negamare kills go to Knuckles/Spears etc and you see a mage get it once in a blue moon.

Ty <3

also anvil does need an increase in success rate to be fair, p3rfect got lucky, everyone who has a +8 wep is lucky.

I would say that getting something to +5 is not too hard if you use backups, but there are those people who just yolo upgrades from 0 to 5 and come out with a completed item out of sheer luck. Anvil has never been fine, for those who have unlimited resources it may seem like an easy chore but for those solo players it's pretty impossible getting +8 anything. And that's were the false feeling of "the anvil is fine" comes from, sure its fine when you make a bunch of weps out of 100 toes and 20 ss, Statistically you will end with several +8 weps from all those tries alone, if you hop on a pvp server with the same upgrade rates and start upgrading with unlimited resources you can quickly find out that it's all a number game to increase your chances of success. And I believe that increasing the drop rate would fix the anvil issue without having to change the anvil :)
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[quote="NITE"]I still wanna deal damage to Negamare as a Mage, has any sort of maths gone into the difference in dps when it comes to melee vs Mage, I mean 99% of Negamare kills go to Knuckles/Spears etc and you see a mage get it once in a blue moon. Ty <3 also anvil does need an increase in success rate to be fair, p3rfect got lucky, everyone who has a +8 wep is lucky. I would say that getting something to +5 is not too hard if you use backups, but there are those people who just yolo upgrades from 0 to 5 and come out with a completed item out of sheer luck. Anvil has never been fine, for those who have unlimited resources it may seem like an easy chore but for those solo players it's pretty impossible getting +8 anything. And that's were the false feeling of "the anvil is fine" comes from, sure its fine when you make a bunch of weps out of 100 toes and 20 ss, Statistically you will end with several +8 weps from all those tries alone, if you hop on a pvp server with the same upgrade rates and start upgrading with unlimited resources you can quickly find out that it's all a number game to increase your chances of success. And I believe that increasing the drop rate would fix the anvil issue without having to change the anvil :)[/quote]
But I agree that playing for so many hours, day in and day out to end up with nothing to show for it because of the game mechanics is frustrating to say the least, but I would recommend not trying +6 +7 +8 until you have backups or you will have nothing left if you yolo and it fails.
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[quote="NITE"]But I agree that playing for so many hours, day in and day out to end up with nothing to show for it because of the game mechanics is frustrating to say the least, but I would recommend not trying +6 +7 +8 until you have backups or you will have nothing left if you yolo and it fails.[/quote]
Backup takes another year before u can even try one, llow that noise YOLO
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[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"]Backup takes another year before u can even try one, llow that noise YOLO[/quote]

 

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