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[quote="LUPISCUS"]doesn't really matter now ..sell them..trade them..break them..who knows..never see any for sale on the forum.. The gm's must know what happens to all these drops.. so you presume everything is legit ( assuming they have time to check) The crystal patch came out 15 september las year; safe to round that up to 6 months.. So..6mnths later ..and still only a handful of ppl killing this nega..whether its because of not good enough gear... or trying and failing or just not bothering to turn up. So..we have the podcast boys with +8 new bows..god knows what else...but they dont play now .......we have the paddy field boys farming all the others.. and none ingame ( hardly any). Now 6 months into a patch..designed and promoted for its new weapons.. to allow the humans to catch up their mele attack with devs and encourage more RvR , i'd politely suggest that something isn't going quite to plan. Fin's doing his part as usual keeping the server up and running and always here to fix things.. nice.. Dan seems to be busy with work, and not much time for the server atm. In the meantime, i think the uc isn't looking great. Proly just needs a tweak or 3 and some players would be keen to play again. ( also flogging a dead horse) The difference is.. this is fact..not thoughts... oh well .[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Simple solution is don’t make nega the only source of new weapons/readily dropped new upgrades. Less simple solution is bring other builds than pure attack/accuracy melee into contention by balancing Nega. I don’t really care either way before any losers (OCD and the like) tell me ‘it’s your fault for not building your char that way bla bla bla’, kind of irrelevant and a stupid comment to be making really, when you’re trying to suggest ways to better the game for the majority of players - therefore benefitting the server as a whole.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]No one has actually answered my question as to why nega is only being done by the Chinese. [/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]I will hazard a guess: because they feel like it’s a lot of effort for a minuscule chance of beating them or 1/2/3 other characters to the last hit, so they simply don’t bother. Other than that, maybe they’re a mage and that minuscule chance is cut into about 1000 pieces and each mage gets one of those pieces as a chance to beat the people who can’t compete with the top Nega chars, let alone actually compete with China etc themselves.[/quote]

[quote="DIOS"]Dr evil spot on there needs to be more realistic ways on obtaining these items. Soma doesn’t need to be a slug fest it doesn’t need to take you 500 hours of farming items for you to screw it all up at the anvil, The longer it’s left like this the bigger the gap will get, then when new cap comes in these same players will make this gap bigger. [/quote]

[quote="KETO"][quote="CARNAGE"]No one has actually answered my question as to why nega is only being done by the Chinese. [/quote] Do you even play or just chat shit on forums? was ~20 people at Nega last evening[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="KETO"][quote="CARNAGE"]No one has actually answered my question as to why nega is only being done by the Chinese. [/quote] Do you even play or just chat shit on forums? was ~20 people at Nega last evening[/quote] If you're going to answer the question answer it, don't be a daft prick. Assuming things makes you look like a complete idiot. No reason for people to moan China get everything if 20+ people turn up then. [/quote]

[quote="PROWLER"][quote="CARNAGE"]No one has actually answered my question as to why nega is only being done by the Chinese. [/quote] It’s a fair question. Some (human) players do chase it for the drops but they are a tiny minority. The possible reasons the Chinese player pursues the Negamare can be listed as; 1) He is amassing a personal storage of nothing less than a marvellous amount of weapons and upgrades 2) He is aiming to make top notch gear 3) He is looking to trade with other players in game or on the forums 4) He is selling for cash 5) Something else I cannot think of? “1” This is possible. “2” We already know he has top notch gear (All weapons, upgrades, armour etc.) as well as top notch characters that excel in their various classes. Again, for the avoidance of doubt, “Fair do’s”. “3” He has never traded in-game or on the forum except to buy “fails”. “4” This is possible. “5” It might be helpful to explore this (or not since not enough people care). The only two viable possibilities are “1” and “4”. [b]Some circumstantial evidence[/b] He has a history of selling for cash (with lots of characters being banned) People who have bought have (in some cases) admitted it Some people achieved high end Negamare weapons upgraded very quickly in circumstances where virtually all the kills went to the Chinese. Other people have yet to even kill it. He pursues lower level bosses (relentlessly) which drop lesser weapons, souls and upgrades. For what purpose? As for “evidentiary proof” – well, it’s been explored and short of an investigation by a GM or someone “telling tales” people such as “you and I” have no means to verify it. We can, however, apply Occam’s razor. I think that now addresses your question. [/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]It comes down to people can't be arsed. Theres a lot of running involved for Nega, I think we saiid months ago it was a good 2 hours to do the crystal race, pot up etc, run back to the nega portal, then to fight it. That and the time invested... people are smarter these days, 2 hours at a high ish mob will most(!) of the time earn you a couple of drops and you get stats.[/quote]

[quote="RAZOR"]Now that people have figured it out I think its down to something like 40 mins. 5 mins to activate the crystals, 15 mins prep and then 20 mins to kill him depending on the number of people there.[/quote]

[quote="DEAMOND"]I have no idea how my thread turned out into this but just like many other people i know who currently play very rarely it is all down to time spent for reward. Currently it is not worth our time for the little reward, Because of: 1) Very low % chance of getting kill of nega when it takes effort to activate crystals for the same person getting the rewards. 2) The brutal Anvil 3) No Shak weps from a farmable mob (i.e new mag mob) 4) No overhaul of current droplist weapons for current bosses i.e pamoth 5) No Overhaul drops of Trolls 6) Quests kill count ridiculously high, 2.5k mags for a hard tier 1 wep to break at anvil or get a bad toe. 7) Lack of content/presence from GM's doesn't exactly encourage players to play (Obviously i understand dan has other things to deal with, but the game is suffering including players..) If i told you, you had a 1% chance of getting the kill on nega - Would you honestly bother with the rigmarole of activating the crystals and attending nega? No. It would be interesting to know what the UC during the week, i briefly popped on saturday and could see quite a few people on however this was during wotw, and of course people come on if there are bosses spawning. Yes china has AMAZING gear, The best in-game- Why? Because he farms his arse off and probably a bit of luck. Its unreasonable to assume that we should be spending 20 hours on soma every day without fail just in order to compete. In order for the player count and player experience to improve, we need change. If the rates where increased or the level cap increased by 10 i still probably wouldn't bother to login unfortunately, only time i am on is to give my guildies SR at the moment, There is also very little PVP. [/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]Maybe a reason he farms these bosses constantly is because no one else does? Obviously I don't know that for a fact, but I know if all these bosses weren't being done due to people cba then it's gotta be like free drops on a plate for him. [/quote]

[quote="PROWLER"]To what end? He is on-line 16 hours a day+ seven days a week (including all weekends and holidays), 365 days a year (including Christmas). He goes for the bosses as they spawn but ignores the lesser bosses (Terrasque for example) that doesn't drop anything "useful" (well "sellable"). If he is doing it solely for his own personal stash he has accumulated nothing less than a vault of treasure the value of which would exceed even the wealth of the combined Arab kingdoms. And, again, to what end? (he doesn't trade and has (and has had for an age) top notch characters with top notch gear) If he has done that, (and he is on-line 16+ hours a day), how does he earn a living to eat real food in real life? It's still Occam's razor. [/quote]

[quote="BRAINSTORM"]China probs has more then 1 person playing him lol atm am not even playing, only come on for GVW/WOTW and PK(no pvp atm tho) i just cba to level dev for hours for 2-2-2/1-1-1 stats i dont like stat system on dsoma but thats me lol i would like to see how many new weaps both worlds have got tbh, from what i see hsoma has alot more new weaps then dsoma atm probs due to hsoma doing nega more then dsoma atm lol i do agree with mags dropping nega weaps but at a low drop rate so everyone has a chance of getting one even if its untagged as i dont think theres any untagged nega weaps? we gotta wait till Easter to see if we get the Easter event again and hopefully double rates/drops :) that would defo bring back a few people i think [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I thought there was a repeatable quest to get a Negamare tier weapon?[/quote]