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Can't quote on the phone but @gand
I don't disagree at all. And it was something worth discussing and arguably still is. Part of that discussion I was trying to include was why now?
All I remember for the past few months was fireworks and elation. Two weeks of change there's a "let's revise the whole situation" thread. The topic would have more credibility had it been made part way through your win streak.

Why is it now the issue has been brought up again? It's not a trick question and it's not really a loaded question either despite the comment I made above. I'm actually asking.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Can't quote on the phone but @gand I don't disagree at all. And it was something worth discussing and arguably still is. Part of that discussion I was trying to include was why now? All I remember for the past few months was fireworks and elation. Two weeks of change there's a "let's revise the whole situation" thread. The topic would have more credibility had it been made part way through your win streak. Why is it now the issue has been brought up again? It's not a trick question and it's not really a loaded question either despite the comment I made above. I'm actually asking. [/quote]
Why bring it up again now??

Because there wasn't a good full force attack on plum when we owned gv. You only won 2 weeks ago because plum d/cd. Last week we gave a full hour assult and you could tank stone for 50mins+. It opened peoples eyes to the fact that if something isn't done soonish, no one will die at gvw. If plum gets on stone in the state it is now you guys won't be able to kill him thus we'll go back to the shite gvws with no competition.

You winning the other week was a good thing imo. I'd like to keep the turnout the same every week.
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[quote="ORANGE"]Why bring it up again now?? Because there wasn't a good full force attack on plum when we owned gv. You only won 2 weeks ago because plum d/cd. Last week we gave a full hour assult and you could tank stone for 50mins+. It opened peoples eyes to the fact that if something isn't done soonish, no one will die at gvw. If plum gets on stone in the state it is now you guys won't be able to kill him thus we'll go back to the shite gvws with no competition. You winning the other week was a good thing imo. I'd like to keep the turnout the same every week.[/quote]
"ORANGE"Why bring it up again now??

Because there wasn't a good full force attack on plum when we owned gv. You only won 2 weeks ago because plum d/cd. Last week we gave a full hour assult and you could tank stone for 50mins+. It opened peoples eyes to the fact that if something isn't done soonish, no one will die at gvw. If plum gets on stone in the state it is now you guys won't be able to kill him thus we'll go back to the shite gvws with no competition.

You winning the other week was a good thing imo. I'd like to keep the turnout the same every week.


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[quote="ZYZZ"][quote="ORANGE"]Why bring it up again now?? Because there wasn't a good full force attack on plum when we owned gv. You only won 2 weeks ago because plum d/cd. Last week we gave a full hour assult and you could tank stone for 50mins+. It opened peoples eyes to the fact that if something isn't done soonish, no one will die at gvw. If plum gets on stone in the state it is now you guys won't be able to kill him thus we'll go back to the shite gvws with no competition. You winning the other week was a good thing imo. I'd like to keep the turnout the same every week.[/quote] [/quote]
There was long assaults on plum to the tune of 30+ mins previously. Week in week out.
The issue has been there for a long time. However it is only now it has been highlighted.
Can the same relentless pish not now be quoted as before?
Work as a team. Make an alliance. Make some soma pals. Mages come in Eva rather than full ma kit.

I completely agree no one should hold the stone for that length of time but when it happened previously I accepted it until such a point where by another guild got stronger etc.
and I disagree about a full force attack on me. Notable damage came from plum and zyzz who were shut down with archers and slow.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]There was long assaults on plum to the tune of 30+ mins previously. Week in week out. The issue has been there for a long time. However it is only now it has been highlighted. Can the same relentless pish not now be quoted as before? Work as a team. Make an alliance. Make some soma pals. Mages come in Eva rather than full ma kit. I completely agree no one should hold the stone for that length of time but when it happened previously I accepted it until such a point where by another guild got stronger etc. and I disagree about a full force attack on me. Notable damage came from plum and zyzz who were shut down with archers and slow.[/quote]
You're just trying to be awkward, this isn't an attack on no_mercy, this thread would of been made no matter the out come the past 2 weeks (providing you guys still showed a good turnout). If there's a change it effects eq more than anyone as we've seen you die on the stone but we haven't seen plum die. Meaning if plum gets on the stone, what's the point in showing up??
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[quote="ORANGE"]You're just trying to be awkward, this isn't an attack on no_mercy, this thread would of been made no matter the out come the past 2 weeks (providing you guys still showed a good turnout). If there's a change it effects eq more than anyone as we've seen you die on the stone but we haven't seen plum die. Meaning if plum gets on the stone, what's the point in showing up??[/quote]
"ORANGE"we haven't seen plum die. Meaning if plum gets on the stone, what's the point in showing up??


And people complain when firetrap bash eq at gvw ;o
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ORANGE"]we haven't seen plum die. Meaning if plum gets on the stone, what's the point in showing up??[/quote] And people complain when firetrap bash eq at gvw ;o[/quote]
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[quote="LUTHER"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OkpjT1S.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Lol that's epic. You should of saved that for another time though.

I try to stay out of the 'you hit me so I'll grief you to 10str' arguments as honestly I just don't care, I just want good consistent gvws.
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[quote="ORANGE"]Lol that's epic. You should of saved that for another time though. I try to stay out of the 'you hit me so I'll grief you to 10str' arguments as honestly I just don't care, I just want good consistent gvws.[/quote]
The thread would've been made despite similar threads not having been made in your previous win streak?

http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=2770&title=A+solution+to+gvw%2Fpvp+imbalance+%28hsoma%29&Page=1
No one bothered their arse when this thread was made 3 weeks ago. Which is why I say - why now? Not trying to be awkward. Just asking what has changed in the last couple of weeks for this new conclusion?
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[quote="IPHIOS"]The thread would've been made despite similar threads not having been made in your previous win streak? http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=2770&title=A+solution+to+gvw%2Fpvp+imbalance+%28hsoma%29&Page=1 No one bothered their arse when this thread was made 3 weeks ago. Which is why I say - why now? Not trying to be awkward. Just asking what has changed in the last couple of weeks for this new conclusion?[/quote]
EQ = Mad
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[quote="NEBULAA"]EQ = Mad[/quote]
However a side note - last week was the least fun gv for me personally since the server began.
I prefer attacking to defending though ;/
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[quote="IPHIOS"]However a side note - last week was the least fun gv for me personally since the server began. I prefer attacking to defending though ;/[/quote]
"IPHIOS"Just asking what has changed in the last couple of weeks for this new conclusion?


The attendance.
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="IPHIOS"]Just asking what has changed in the last couple of weeks for this new conclusion?[/quote] The attendance. [/quote]
Easily more at the last gv than there was the week before and definitely more than your last series of wins. Half of my own guild didn't even turn up to that out of futility.

Next.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Easily more at the last gv than there was the week before and definitely more than your last series of wins. Half of my own guild didn't even turn up to that out of futility. Next. [/quote]
Can't edit on my phone and iv got fat digits ...

Next gv I assume will have last weeks numbers plus more as people know I'm more likely to die than plum. Wasn't that long ago someone in sorc got on the stone in the last minute.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Can't edit on my phone and iv got fat digits ... Next gv I assume will have last weeks numbers plus more as people know I'm more likely to die than plum. Wasn't that long ago someone in sorc got on the stone in the last minute. [/quote]
"IPHIOS"Easily more at the last gv than there was the week before and definitely more than your last series of wins. Half of my own guild didn't even turn up to that out of futility.


Exactly, thats whats changed. Imo there hasn't been a turnout like that since Fusion disbanded. Since then it's been a stroll in the park for EQ and not because of healing.

People have started coming back from the recent games that have been released an there has been a steady resurgence for the last few wars.

To my knowledge Plum has never tanked stone for 50+ minutes in a high attendance war were everyone not allied to EQ are trying their best to move him.

I've got no doubt that had he not DC'd two weeks ago he'd of done just what you did last week except not died. The difference being he would of been under the onslaught of the server not just one guild.

And I'm pretty sure a similar thread would of popped up if the whole server couldn't move him after a hour of concentrated attack. Would we of been responding saying "looool healing aint the problem, lvl harder an work together"? fuck knows, I probably would of been conveniently unavailable for comment ; )

tbh it's not something that bothers me if it's changed or not, if/when EQ win it again we'll use it to our advantage as well. I think 'neutral' guilds not being neutral were a bigger contributing factor than healing.
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="IPHIOS"]Easily more at the last gv than there was the week before and definitely more than your last series of wins. Half of my own guild didn't even turn up to that out of futility.[/quote] Exactly, thats whats changed. Imo there hasn't been a turnout like that since Fusion disbanded. Since then it's been a stroll in the park for EQ and not because of healing. People have started coming back from the recent games that have been released an there has been a steady resurgence for the last few wars. To my knowledge Plum has never tanked stone for 50+ minutes in a high attendance war were everyone not allied to EQ are trying their best to move him. I've got no doubt that had he not DC'd two weeks ago he'd of done just what you did last week except not died. The difference being he would of been under the onslaught of the server not just one guild. And I'm pretty sure a similar thread would of popped up if the whole server couldn't move him after a hour of concentrated attack. Would we of been responding saying "looool healing aint the problem, lvl harder an work together"? fuck knows, I probably would of been conveniently unavailable for comment ; ) tbh it's not something that bothers me if it's changed or not, if/when EQ win it again we'll use it to our advantage as well. I think 'neutral' guilds not being neutral were a bigger contributing factor than healing.[/quote]

 

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