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[quote="BASIL"]Maybe have winning wow for humans a bit more of a reward they will get Db and never bother with it again then late starters will suffer....[/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]There you go oomens :D Isylver I'm unable to quote your post on my phone :D[/quote]

[quote="VISKAH"]Lets be realistic guys. We may be able to weak and db devils... we dont hurt with melee. And what humans currently ingame can tank on the stone? Its not going to happen for a long time. Esomahad the same issue[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Since when was 'tank on the stone' the option here? You have numbers, use them, crowd the throne room and overpower the devils with number. Theres a pot delay so theres no way any 'strong' devil can out pot 3-4 humans. You just dont factor in that Humans and Devils are designed in a way where Humans require team work and their numbers, and Devils are strong on their own. You all want to be just as strong as a devil so you can 1 vs 1 them. Its not like that, and due to the ratio, it shouldn't ever change, just bloody turn up in the number that you should do, and work as a team so you all benefit. Long and short of it is that as individuals you dont like to die, and so refuse to look at the bigger picture of being capable of winning as a group.[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Our last devil GVW is similar to your wow 'issues' We have a guild full of strong devils who play the part of devils on wotw. Vs Everyone else who is almost hit + 4th just like you guys (humans) We came really close to winning because we are persistent and come in massed organised attacks.[/quote]

[quote="ZORRO"]I think the fundamental problem here is the release dates. Originally two things were different 1) Dsoma was relesaesd after hsoma with faster leveling. 2) Dsoma original release was much much slower leveling, after adding conti with ABs leveling rates were increased 2 Fold at least. before then people were grinding level 35-45 on ees which is very slow. So the problem is the mechanics of the game are based on these two facts, so if you give conti ABs ( or even hwan ABs) and release dsoma and hsoma at the same time, its almost impossible for the humans to win the war. When the WotW first started, humans had been leveling for over a year straight and the devils still easily caught them up. At the very least to try and negate this affect, the GMs should have a policy that first 8 weeks of WOTW are alternate, because all that has happened is that , devils get off to faster leveling start and then level even faster by constantly owning conti. I'm also aware nothing will be or can be done about this, but its pretty obvious why the War is currently not working. Even the top level human would still get mauled by the highest devil as things stand.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Our last devil GVW is similar to your wow 'issues' We have a guild full of strong devils who play the part of devils on wotw. Vs Everyone else who is almost hit + 4th just like you guys (humans) We came really close to winning because we are persistent and come in massed organised attacks.[/quote] Not sure what gvw you attended there mate because the mages were tanking more than I was, so that's kind of a bad example. [/quote]

[quote="SHATTERSTAR"]While balance may be evened out later in the game please do not spout on about humans turning up with teamwork etc. There may be a lot of humans but everybody plays the game for a different reason. Not everybody cares about WoTW and not everyone may be online when it happens. Rested exp and higher rates would have brought some people back to enjoy the game on a casual basis. If you play casual and only Get to play for 2-3 hours the day WoTW happens are you going to attend WoTW or level to make yourself stronger so you may may a difference in the future. Here we have catch 22 whereby you don't go to make yourself stronger but the time available for the person to play will probably never bridge the deficit in level difference. Neither should it. It's a waiting game with regard to turnout and % that should apply and if it takes another month so be it.[/quote]

[quote="SHATTERSTAR"]I was not referring too you. Devils have been spouting about teamwork and humans not you as far as I am aware. [/quote]

[quote="SLAYER"]Point, missed it. I dont expect every human to turn up, neither do I every devil. But i do expect to at least be outnumbered on 3/1 population server... Humans always won WOW with teamwork but we'll happily hold onto conti until you figure that out. I wonder if humans are even aware devil exp is nerfed from esoma, especially AB's, 1850 to 1300 or something similar,.. If you want to win wow get your top levels to turn up, stand around them, use int, see the result.[/quote]

[quote="RAZOR"]Meh, lets just turn up and fight the devils this time and see :)[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]Like I said before if humans don't want to turn up it's fine by me because I can't make them, just means I get to level up on conti even longer which I have no problem with. [/quote]