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SUBXERO |
Had a lot of questions about this recently so here you go. I hope it helps the new players.
https://youtu.be/uBEHQcC95H4 |
#1 2019/08/28 12:17:07 |
RAVENSOUL |
A decent podcast, decent guide's for them 2 builds.
But you have also just shown imho what is wrong with soma to a degree. Requiring x amount of characters to do con till 30, healing for int till 100, the +50 melee route and +30 mage route. You try telling any new player that has never played soma before that they need to do 30 con, heal to 100 to have any chance of taking part in the many different aspects of soma i.e. Gvw, wotw, ss, bosses etc and there not going to hang around after the first day or 2. This imho needs addressing because it is this part of Soma that is and will continue to put off new players, players can't afford to invest the amount of time that is required to get there character to the point they can actually start enjoying Soma with real life, work, family etc. You may as well make a welcome post with the following in it.... Welcome to Soma where you need to invest over 3,500 hours before you can start to take part in the real Soma. Games are meant to be for fun, to relax and unwind after an hard day, the above comment doesn't sound very appealing to me and I'm sure to a lot of others either.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]A decent podcast, decent guide's for them 2 builds.
But you have also just shown imho what is wrong with soma to a degree.
Requiring x amount of characters to do con till 30, healing for int till 100, the +50 melee route and +30 mage route.
You try telling any new player that has never played soma before that they need to do 30 con, heal to 100 to have any chance of taking part in the many different aspects of soma i.e. Gvw, wotw, ss, bosses etc and there not going to hang around after the first day or 2.
This imho needs addressing because it is this part of Soma that is and will continue to put off new players, players can't afford to invest the amount of time that is required to get there character to the point they can actually start enjoying Soma with real life, work, family etc.
You may as well make a welcome post with the following in it....
Welcome to Soma where you need to invest over 3,500 hours before you can start to take part in the real Soma.
Games are meant to be for fun, to relax and unwind after an hard day, the above comment doesn't sound very appealing to me and I'm sure to a lot of others either.
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#2 2019/08/28 13:07:05 |
AMOEBA |
con is no massive thing especially as u can do it anytime...
healing is another matter... id guess any1 with above 70 int healed has done it afk.... that's against t n c's.. i managed 65 healing.. not afk.. after that it's way too much even for a hardcore game. Healing, for int... can't be removed now..as the +50 route can't be taken away.... BUT 3k hours+ for 100 healed int is seriously takin the biscuit..... needs speeding up. If.. it didn't slow after 65.. that would still be hard work..but achievable without too many tears. All it does is 'legalise/ normalise' afk play..and that just aint cricket
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[quote="AMOEBA"]con is no massive thing especially as u can do it anytime...
healing is another matter... id guess any1 with above 70 int healed has done it afk.... that's against t n c's..
i managed 65 healing.. not afk.. after that it's way too much even for a hardcore game.
Healing, for int... can't be removed now..as the +50 route can't be taken away.... BUT 3k hours+ for 100 healed int is seriously takin the biscuit..... needs speeding up.
If.. it didn't slow after 65.. that would still be hard work..but achievable without too many tears.
All it does is 'legalise/ normalise' afk play..and that just aint cricket[/quote]
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#3 2019/08/28 13:20:39 |
MAVERICK |
I've not got a perfect route char. But if it only adds 1 orn2 dex at the end of it, doesn't seem like there is any point in doing it. Unless your hardcore/ or you want the absolute best stats. But 1 - 2 dex at end game isn't noticeable. It's all about gear
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#4 2019/08/28 13:27:34 |
ICASTORE |
Many dex and str up with 15skill aura?
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#5 2019/08/28 14:56:07 |
SUBXERO |
"RAVENSOUL" I didnt make the game and i agree its stupid the +50 stats route but its to late to go back now unless there full wipe.
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[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]
You may as well make a welcome post with the following in it....
Welcome to Soma where you need to invest over 3,500 hours before you can start to take part in the real Soma.
Games are meant to be for fun, to relax and unwind after an hard day, the above comment doesn't sound very appealing to me and I'm sure to a lot of others either.
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I didnt make the game and i agree its stupid the +50 stats route but its to late to go back now unless there full wipe. [/quote]
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#6 2019/08/28 15:02:44 |
MERLIN |
I hear stat allocation is the future
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#7 2019/08/28 15:14:10 |
RAVENSOUL |
I wasn't having a go at you subxero the podcast was good very informative for any player that is thinking of trying to create a max character. More of these types of podcast will help newer players.
I know Isylver has said he can't reverse the +50 route thing and he will never do a wipe. I just feel something needs to be done to counter this +50 route thing to allow casual players to achieve the same amount of stats some other way with the limited time a lot of people have. This whole making the ultimate character is the single most off putting aspect of soma and it's a great shame for this great game.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I wasn't having a go at you subxero the podcast was good very informative for any player that is thinking of trying to create a max character. More of these types of podcast will help newer players.
I know Isylver has said he can't reverse the +50 route thing and he will never do a wipe. I just feel something needs to be done to counter this +50 route thing to allow casual players to achieve the same amount of stats some other way with the limited time a lot of people have. This whole making the ultimate character is the single most off putting aspect of soma and it's a great shame for this great game.[/quote]
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#8 2019/08/28 15:14:20 |
AJ |
The more cap raises that come into play the more this will reduce down to close the stats gap smaller. But like he said the whole 50+ route gains you 1-2 dex, so theres no point unless you have time. It literally doesn't need to be done to be competitive
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#9 2019/08/28 15:18:56 |
AMOEBA |
the +50 route.. rightly or wrongly.. is one of the main aspects of this game that many ppl play this and not some dot to dot game where every1 ends up with almost identical stats for little effort.
The steady speed ups for xp and levelling makes this easier. Contentious topic ofc..but making things too easy here isn't the way forward imo. The +50 route comes to en end at lev101 anyway... think of the first 100 levs as ur bonus time..make of it what u will..that's ur time to gain a few xtra stats if u can be arsed.. In the end.. mostly comes down to gear anyway.
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[quote="AMOEBA"]the +50 route.. rightly or wrongly.. is one of the main aspects of this game that many ppl play this and not some dot to dot game where every1 ends up with almost identical stats for little effort.
The steady speed ups for xp and levelling makes this easier.
Contentious topic ofc..but making things too easy here isn't the way forward imo.
The +50 route comes to en end at lev101 anyway... think of the first 100 levs as ur bonus time..make of it what u will..that's ur time to gain a few xtra stats if u can be arsed.. In the end.. mostly comes down to gear anyway.
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#10 2019/08/28 15:19:08 |
ROCH |
I quite like the +50 system, makes you think about what you should level on a little more.
That being said, how would people feel if it was adjusted from +50 to a +30 system (same as int)? would give a little more wiggle room in mob selection as they remain viable as max gains for longer. It would also be quite nice to boost the 1.0x gains period to +30 greater than the mob rather than the +10 it is now. Allows you to stay at a mob a little longer if you enjoy it ( <3 palus). Both suggestions would allow more mob variety in your diet, which is always a good thing, whilst keeping the bonus stats for harder mobs in a way that is achievable to the solo player. I absolutely do not want a game where i can level on wolves to 120. plz god no
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[quote="ROCH"]I quite like the +50 system, makes you think about what you should level on a little more.
That being said, how would people feel if it was adjusted from +50 to a +30 system (same as int)? would give a little more wiggle room in mob selection as they remain viable as max gains for longer.
It would also be quite nice to boost the 1.0x gains period to +30 greater than the mob rather than the +10 it is now. Allows you to stay at a mob a little longer if you enjoy it ( <3 palus).
Both suggestions would allow more mob variety in your diet, which is always a good thing, whilst keeping the bonus stats for harder mobs in a way that is achievable to the solo player.
I absolutely do not want a game where i can level on wolves to 120. plz god no[/quote]
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#11 2019/08/28 15:57:07 |
SABREWOLF |
"RAVENSOUL"I wasn't having a go at you subxero the podcast was good very informative for any player that is thinking of trying to create a max character. More of these types of podcast will help newer players. Well to be honest I find making the perfect char a challenge and I've got mine up to horde and healed to 65 int so far. I'd probably be sitting on pubg but this is keeping me interested in soma. A decent informative podcast.
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[quote="SABREWOLF"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]I wasn't having a go at you subxero the podcast was good very informative for any player that is thinking of trying to create a max character. More of these types of podcast will help newer players.
I know Isylver has said he can't reverse the +50 route thing and he will never do a wipe. I just feel something needs to be done to counter this +50 route thing to allow casual players to achieve the same amount of stats some other way with the limited time a lot of people have. This whole making the ultimate character is the single most off putting aspect of soma and it's a great shame for this great game.[/quote]
Well to be honest I find making the perfect char a challenge and I've got mine up to horde and healed to 65 int so far. I'd probably be sitting on pubg but this is keeping me interested in soma. A decent informative podcast.[/quote]
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#12 2019/08/28 15:59:45 |
RAVENSOUL |
the +50 route.. rightly or wrongly.. is one of the main aspects of this game that many ppl play this and not some dot to dot game where every1 ends up with almost identical stats for little effort.
Lupi what you say above is what's wrong with this soma, it's the mythofclones that you have described. Bow till 151, axe till 171 everyone the same mythofclones. You never played esoma did you? The levelling was a lot slower but everyone was unique none of this clone crap 3-5 mob route till cap. All weapons had there pros and cons and each were a viable weapon to level with. Not this farce 2 weapon thing here. Until this +50 bow/axe crap is addressed you will just keep seeing the same small amount of players remaking new characters to pass there time and see if they can suck 0.1 more stat than there last character. Esoma may not have been perfect but I would take that way of levelling over this server everyday, and that's not a dig or attack of the GM's here because they have improved so many other aspects of this soma over esoma for the better.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]the +50 route.. rightly or wrongly.. is one of the main aspects of this game that many ppl play this and not some dot to dot game where every1 ends up with almost identical stats for little effort.
Lupi what you say above is what's wrong with this soma, it's the mythofclones that you have described.
Bow till 151, axe till 171 everyone the same mythofclones.
You never played esoma did you? The levelling was a lot slower but everyone was unique none of this clone crap 3-5 mob route till cap. All weapons had there pros and cons and each were a viable weapon to level with. Not this farce 2 weapon thing here. Until this +50 bow/axe crap is addressed you will just keep seeing the same small amount of players remaking new characters to pass there time and see if they can suck 0.1 more stat than there last character.
Esoma may not have been perfect but I would take that way of levelling over this server everyday, and that's not a dig or attack of the GM's here because they have improved so many other aspects of this soma over esoma for the better.
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#13 2019/08/28 16:04:00 |
LEADEROFMOS |
Full wipe did I see someone say +1 let’s do it all again 😅
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#14 2019/08/28 16:09:18 |
AMOEBA |
+50 route doesn't mean u have to bow to 151 str then all axe.. there's more than 1 way to skin a cat. Last 12 months or so.. ppl have been following this template.Ye it gives u pretty damn good dex, but there's different ways of going about things.
However, whatever you do .. the +50 route just gives u a few xtra stats till lev 100.
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[quote="AMOEBA"]+50 route doesn't mean u have to bow to 151 str then all axe.. there's more than 1 way to skin a cat. Last 12 months or so.. ppl have been following this template.Ye it gives u pretty damn good dex, but there's different ways of going about things.
However, whatever you do .. the +50 route just gives u a few xtra stats till lev 100.
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#15 2019/08/28 16:10:04 |
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