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Because the problem you are actually referring to is devil archers if we are all honest. You cut other classes dex down to 50% and 62.5% and we might as well delete devil soma.
The game has more pressing issues than your "i get hit too much by the odd devil that turns up to conti to do less than 30 damage a hit to me even though they are 20 levels higher"
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[quote="GRAVIJA"]Because the problem you are actually referring to is devil archers if we are all honest. You cut other classes dex down to 50% and 62.5% and we might as well delete devil soma.
The game has more pressing issues than your "i get hit too much by the odd devil that turns up to conti to do less than 30 damage a hit to me even though they are 20 levels higher"[/quote]
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#16 2014/06/03 10:29:52 |
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CARNAGE |
"OPENTHEDOOR"Carnage how can you doubt that? Firstly just want to say I'm not even bothered if dex gets affected or not but if it does get affected it's not going to magically make solo raiding devs start raiding higher leveled humans or anything since there's still no benefit. For example if I even saw any of the humans on conti you just named I wouldn't even bother attacking it's a waste of my time and will only result in me burning barr and pots for something that won't even result in a kill for pos or items. Remember I'm not bow here I can't kill someone from behind a tree. The people I kill or attempt to kill when I raid I'd still have more dex than them even if they slashed it added to that with a higher raiding percentage they'd still die anyway so it doesn't make that much of a difference.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Carnage how can you doubt that?
Slither, phyra, style, Leo, xkf, lordcoos, kajoken and rare are just some humans with high str that in WotW are basically a character that's only use is to stone.
Add that that mere mages will be able to cast.
Suddenly humans will win more wars, and the % will go up?
Which I think is what every devil wants.
It makes sense to me anyway.[/quote]
Firstly just want to say I'm not even bothered if dex gets affected or not but if it does get affected it's not going to magically make solo raiding devs start raiding higher leveled humans or anything since there's still no benefit.
For example if I even saw any of the humans on conti you just named I wouldn't even bother attacking it's a waste of my time and will only result in me burning barr and pots for something that won't even result in a kill for pos or items. Remember I'm not bow here I can't kill someone from behind a tree.
The people I kill or attempt to kill when I raid I'd still have more dex than them even if they slashed it added to that with a higher raiding percentage they'd still die anyway so it doesn't make that much of a difference.
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#17 2014/06/03 11:18:05 |
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CICLOPE |
You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str..
The one that try to use Int on the devil just getting hitted coz of the high dex.. The one that try to use meele on dev not even hit coz of hes high dex.. Enuff???
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[quote="CICLOPE"]You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str..
The one that try to use Int on the devil just getting hitted coz of the high dex..
The one that try to use meele on dev not even hit coz of hes high dex.. Enuff??? [/quote]
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#18 2014/06/03 11:38:43 |
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GHOSTLORD |
"CICLOPE"You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str.. Maximum eva rate is 80%. Humans can craft eva and accuracy gear. There's still aura's. And anyone raiding with less than 4 people isn't very smart, or does anyone disagree?
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="CICLOPE"]You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str..
The one that try to use Int on the devil just getting hitted coz of the high dex..
The one that try to use meele on dev not even hit coz of hes high dex.. Enuff??? [/quote]
Maximum eva rate is 80%.
Humans can craft eva and accuracy gear.
There's still aura's.
And anyone raiding with less than 4 people isn't very smart, or does anyone disagree?
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#19 2014/06/03 11:51:57 |
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CARNAGE |
"CICLOPE"You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str.. I understand what you're saying perfectly, from my point of view why would I be fighting 2 80+ humans I have no chance of killing on a raid? lol I wouldn't even fight 1 on a raid it's that pointless. I raid conti to get kills not burn my barr and supplies for no reason.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="CICLOPE"]You maybe don't understand.. if 2 humans is against a devil .. example.. 2 human lvl 80+ 1) high int 1) high str..
The one that try to use Int on the devil just getting hitted coz of the high dex..
The one that try to use meele on dev not even hit coz of hes high dex.. Enuff??? [/quote]
I understand what you're saying perfectly, from my point of view why would I be fighting 2 80+ humans I have no chance of killing on a raid? lol I wouldn't even fight 1 on a raid it's that pointless. I raid conti to get kills not burn my barr and supplies for no reason.[/quote]
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#20 2014/06/03 11:54:17 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
Make dex scalable per class, it would take a bit of work but would be well worth it in the long run. People generalise archers because thats what we have to deal with most of the time, no amount of MA can kill a devil archer at level 80+ because they just interrupt every single cast. I feel for the other classes of dsoma as they must have it seriously hard compared to archers at the minute. It needs addressing and has needed addressing for a long time now.
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Make dex scalable per class, it would take a bit of work but would be well worth it in the long run. People generalise archers because thats what we have to deal with most of the time, no amount of MA can kill a devil archer at level 80+ because they just interrupt every single cast. I feel for the other classes of dsoma as they must have it seriously hard compared to archers at the minute. It needs addressing and has needed addressing for a long time now. [/quote]
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#21 2014/06/03 12:13:32 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
I think the GMs have made it pretty clear that they don't care about the DSoma balance issues at the moment (although I appreciate the STR/CON and INT/WIS change, that was a step in the right direction); classes will balance out after level 100, so I guess until then Archer is the only class to play.
PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]I think the GMs have made it pretty clear that they don't care about the DSoma balance issues at the moment (although I appreciate the STR/CON and INT/WIS change, that was a step in the right direction); classes will balance out after level 100, so I guess until then Archer is the only class to play.
PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP.[/quote]
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#22 2014/06/03 13:14:47 |
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I actually lol'd at this irl, I got 100+ int and still almost get 2 shot by humans using int with bows and on my own map "it just doesn't make sense" hehe but unlike the level 30 pilot heros of hsoma I tend to run away instead of fighting, let them get annoyed and keep on hunting, happy days bro
Say no to no more dsoma class changes till more reach caps
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[quote="INTHEFACE"]I actually lol'd at this irl, I got 100+ int and still almost get 2 shot by humans using int with bows and on my own map "it just doesn't make sense" hehe but unlike the level 30 pilot heros of hsoma I tend to run away instead of fighting, let them get annoyed and keep on hunting, happy days bro
Say no to no more dsoma class changes till more reach caps [/quote]
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#23 2014/06/03 14:06:55 |
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CARNAGE |
"JARAGOONDOO"PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP. Must be bad lol, I still attend events and wotw if I'm around for them I don't do gvws/ss though. Always thought knuckle would do alright for some reason.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP.[/quote]
Must be bad lol, I still attend events and wotw if I'm around for them I don't do gvws/ss though. Always thought knuckle would do alright for some reason.
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#24 2014/06/03 14:12:11 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"CARNAGE""JARAGOONDOO"PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP. It's not that, dude. I just want a balanced game where every class can compete at all stages of the game (hence why I DISAGREED with a buff to Knuckle ages ago). Knuckle is in a pretty good position (we still won't beat Archers at 100, though), it's just that there's nothing but Archers/Knux left (and a few mages, I guess) which has dulled the game for me.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="CARNAGE"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP.[/quote]
Must be bad lol, I still attend events and wotw if I'm around for them I don't do gvws/ss though. Always thought knuckle would do alright for some reason.
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It's not that, dude. I just want a balanced game where every class can compete at all stages of the game (hence why I DISAGREED with a buff to Knuckle ages ago). Knuckle is in a pretty good position (we still won't beat Archers at 100, though), it's just that there's nothing but Archers/Knux left (and a few mages, I guess) which has dulled the game for me.[/quote]
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#25 2014/06/03 14:16:23 |
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CARNAGE |
"JARAGOONDOO"it's just that there's nothing but Archers/Knux left (and a few mages, I guess) which has dulled the game for me. The few times I have logged in that is something I noticed as well. |
#26 2014/06/03 14:20:11 |
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S0RCERER |
Laz, Monster, Adath and I are just masochists.
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#27 2014/06/03 14:49:29 |
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HOHOHO |
http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=3286&title=Post+your+idea%27s+-+Balancing+Devil+classes+due+to+dex+issues+and+a+WotW%2FConti+%25+tweak+after%3F&Page=1
;o g0g0 If you have any idea's post there for GM's to see, instead of moaning lets be constructive. (That title l0l)
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[quote="HOHOHO"]http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=3286&title=Post+your+idea%27s+-+Balancing+Devil+classes+due+to+dex+issues+and+a+WotW%2FConti+%25+tweak+after%3F&Page=1
;o g0g0
If you have any idea's post there for GM's to see, instead of moaning lets be constructive. (That title l0l)[/quote]
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#28 2014/06/03 15:53:29 |
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CICLOPE |
They are not killable ghost.. in our map... they just hit 100% Accuracy its embarassing we cant hit back lol even with str ... work it out .. and devil just hit No_mercy Arcanix Firetrap.. Left equilibrium for some reason at nightmare always naked
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#29 2014/06/03 20:58:27 |
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STRIKE |
"JARAGOONDOO"I think the GMs have made it pretty clear that they don't care about the DSoma balance issues at the moment (although I appreciate the STR/CON and INT/WIS change, that was a step in the right direction); classes will balance out after level 100, so I guess until then Archer is the only class to play. Jara if you quitting pass on some of your knux to me :p too many have gone int oblivion Dsoma balance is in a shocking state at the moment. the comments about devils dex on conti is laughable, next you will be wanting us to only be allowed on conti naked with T weps. At this stage in the game i think if anything the % should be upped for devils as the user rate is crumbling day by day
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[quote="STRIKE"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]I think the GMs have made it pretty clear that they don't care about the DSoma balance issues at the moment (although I appreciate the STR/CON and INT/WIS change, that was a step in the right direction); classes will balance out after level 100, so I guess until then Archer is the only class to play.
PS I've lost motivation to play DSoma (I don't bother with any events anymore except maybe GVW to help my guild); I only come on to get rid of some rested XP.[/quote]
Jara if you quitting pass on some of your knux to me :p too many have gone int oblivion
Dsoma balance is in a shocking state at the moment. the comments about devils dex on conti is laughable, next you will be wanting us to only be allowed on conti naked with T weps. At this stage in the game i think if anything the % should be upped for devils as the user rate is crumbling day by day
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#30 2014/06/03 21:05:19 |
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