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Devils and dex in conty human...

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"CICLOPE"They are not killable ghost.. in our map... they just hit 100% Accuracy its embarassing we cant hit back lol even with str ... work it out .. and devil just hit No_mercy Arcanix Firetrap.. Left equilibrium for some reason at nightmare always naked


i would never ever dream of going solo at conti to get kills alone without atleast 3-4 ppl with me we are far by not killable.
There are plenty of devs that they cant even 4th+hit in human conti due to % besides a dev cant hit multiple ppl to make em not cast Team up with others keep weaken on him and hes dead
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[quote="MANTICORE"][quote="CICLOPE"]They are not killable ghost.. in our map... they just hit 100% Accuracy its embarassing we cant hit back lol even with str ... work it out .. and devil just hit No_mercy Arcanix Firetrap.. Left equilibrium for some reason at nightmare always naked[/quote] i would never ever dream of going solo at conti to get kills alone without atleast 3-4 ppl with me we are far by not killable. There are plenty of devs that they cant even 4th+hit in human conti due to % besides a dev cant hit multiple ppl to make em not cast Team up with others keep weaken on him and hes dead[/quote]
"MANTICORE"
"CICLOPE"They are not killable ghost.. in our map... they just hit 100% Accuracy its embarassing we cant hit back lol even with str ... work it out .. and devil just hit No_mercy Arcanix Firetrap.. Left equilibrium for some reason at nightmare always naked


i would never ever dream of going solo at conti to get kills alone without atleast 3-4 ppl with me we are far by not killable.
There are plenty of devs that they cant even 4th+hit in human conti due to % besides a dev cant hit multiple ppl to make em not cast Team up with others keep weaken on him and hes dead


Have you ever seen a devil stand there and let weaken be cast on them non stop? If a group of 2/3 humans turn up they serum then run away then come back and ruin your hunting again. 10 minutes later as you cant cast 1 v 1
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="MANTICORE"][quote="CICLOPE"]They are not killable ghost.. in our map... they just hit 100% Accuracy its embarassing we cant hit back lol even with str ... work it out .. and devil just hit No_mercy Arcanix Firetrap.. Left equilibrium for some reason at nightmare always naked[/quote] i would never ever dream of going solo at conti to get kills alone without atleast 3-4 ppl with me we are far by not killable. There are plenty of devs that they cant even 4th+hit in human conti due to % besides a dev cant hit multiple ppl to make em not cast Team up with others keep weaken on him and hes dead[/quote] Have you ever seen a devil stand there and let weaken be cast on them non stop? If a group of 2/3 humans turn up they serum then run away then come back and ruin your hunting again. 10 minutes later as you cant cast 1 v 1[/quote]
At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits
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[quote="ARROW"]At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits [/quote]
"ARROW"At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits


Quoted just in case people decide to skip this bit.

Id much prefer to be harrassed, rather than stoned and killed in 2/3hits.

You guys have it good.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="ARROW"]At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits [/quote] Quoted just in case people decide to skip this bit. Id much prefer to be harrassed, rather than stoned and killed in 2/3hits. You guys have it good.[/quote]
Humans had eva and accuracy to give us a chance with devils dex, but now its been nerfed we have no chance ;/
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[quote="HURRICANO"]Humans had eva and accuracy to give us a chance with devils dex, but now its been nerfed we have no chance ;/[/quote]
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"ARROW"At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits


Quoted just in case people decide to skip this bit.

Id much prefer to be harrassed, rather than stoned and killed in 2/3hits.

You guys have it good.


What level do you hunt them from and until? If you were in mage gear and had serums, you'd last about as many hits as I do against arrow with my melee hunting gear on. So in fact the damage is probably about the same, just the armour you use is different to hunt with which leaves you a bit screwed. If s0rc pops up, i get stoned and then weaken comes on I also drop in 2 hits in melee gear, 3 hits in robes.


Also, who are you being 2-3 hit by? Iphios and plum? Or your average 90/100 int human?
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="ARROW"]At least you guys are pretty much unkillable on this %. When devils own conti and try hunting EB they get stoned weaken+DB = dead in 1-2 hits [/quote] Quoted just in case people decide to skip this bit. Id much prefer to be harrassed, rather than stoned and killed in 2/3hits. You guys have it good.[/quote] What level do you hunt them from and until? If you were in mage gear and had serums, you'd last about as many hits as I do against arrow with my melee hunting gear on. So in fact the damage is probably about the same, just the armour you use is different to hunt with which leaves you a bit screwed. If s0rc pops up, i get stoned and then weaken comes on I also drop in 2 hits in melee gear, 3 hits in robes. Also, who are you being 2-3 hit by? Iphios and plum? Or your average 90/100 int human?[/quote]
Average Int human can down a EB devil on conti let alone the big hitters ;[ until you test it I don't think you can post things like 'so damage is probably about the same' - see for yourself first, hunting on conti as a devil is a nightmare, how it should be for humans.
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Average Int human can down a EB devil on conti let alone the big hitters ;[ until you test it I don't think you can post things like 'so damage is probably about the same' - see for yourself first, hunting on conti as a devil is a nightmare, how it should be for humans.[/quote]
Double post stupid phone
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Double post stupid phone [/quote]
"ZYZZ"Average Int human can down a EB devil on conti let alone the big hitters ;[ until you test it I don't think you can post things like 'so damage is probably about the same' - see for yourself first, hunting on conti as a devil is a nightmare, how it should be for humans.


Fair point but if you don't carry serums and feathers you deserve to die, my point was that devils are basically naked against int whereas humans generally have melee gear on on conti. More then happy to test the damage when devils win conti or tonight I'll test damage and work out calculations is any devils are game
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ZYZZ"]Average Int human can down a EB devil on conti let alone the big hitters ;[ until you test it I don't think you can post things like 'so damage is probably about the same' - see for yourself first, hunting on conti as a devil is a nightmare, how it should be for humans.[/quote] Fair point but if you don't carry serums and feathers you deserve to die, my point was that devils are basically naked against int whereas humans generally have melee gear on on conti. More then happy to test the damage when devils win conti or tonight I'll test damage and work out calculations is any devils are game[/quote]
Serums don't matter and feather is completely random then could still put a devil in range of a LS/DB etc. - point is, if its that bad for devils for a map thats essentially needed in the leveling span then it should be that bad for humans damage receiving wise.

I miss eSoma devils raiding LBs, RIP 5% eva bone helm.
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Serums don't matter and feather is completely random then could still put a devil in range of a LS/DB etc. - point is, if its that bad for devils for a map thats essentially needed in the leveling span then it should be that bad for humans damage receiving wise. I miss eSoma devils raiding LBs, RIP 5% eva bone helm.[/quote]
Yoshi zyzz just posting because he never get an hit off devils.. he just /CRYING so them pilots can hunt clearly at nms conty or conty bosses ;)
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[quote="CICLOPE"]Yoshi zyzz just posting because he never get an hit off devils.. he just /CRYING so them pilots can hunt clearly at nms conty or conty bosses ;)[/quote]
im just saying devil Dex is overpowered for humans. they dont let any1 cast .. and they evade us like 99%
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[quote="CICLOPE"]im just saying devil Dex is overpowered for humans. they dont let any1 cast .. and they evade us like 99%[/quote]
Instead of moaning Phyra go to Here and give GM's some idea's on balancing Devil's dex, this isn't just a issue for Humans.
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[quote="HOHOHO"]Instead of moaning Phyra go to [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=3286&title=Post+your+idea%27s+-+Balancing+Devil+classes+due+to+dex+issues+and+a+WotW%2FConti+%25+tweak+after%3F&Page=1] Here[/url] and give GM's some idea's on balancing Devil's dex, this isn't just a issue for Humans.[/quote]
"YOSHIMITSU"
Have you ever seen a devil stand there and let weaken be cast on them non stop? If a group of 2/3 humans turn up they serum then run away then come back and ruin your hunting again. 10 minutes later as you cant cast 1 v 1


lets say you are a human and you go conti Ebs to kill devs they are as easier to kill than humans in human conti.
Most devs that hunting doesnt use +100s for lvling they too expensive they prob will still use +20s for their lvling they wont be able to pot up your int dmg.

I had lots 1v1 with Lafite at Ebs he nearly killed me once,i was using +20s had to warp for pots
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[quote="MANTICORE"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"] Have you ever seen a devil stand there and let weaken be cast on them non stop? If a group of 2/3 humans turn up they serum then run away then come back and ruin your hunting again. 10 minutes later as you cant cast 1 v 1[/quote] lets say you are a human and you go conti Ebs to kill devs they are as easier to kill than humans in human conti. Most devs that hunting doesnt use +100s for lvling they too expensive they prob will still use +20s for their lvling they wont be able to pot up your int dmg. I had lots 1v1 with Lafite at Ebs he nearly killed me once,i was using +20s had to warp for pots [/quote]
"MANTICORE"

lets say you are a human and you go conti Ebs to kill devs they are as easier to kill than humans in human conti.
Most devs that hunting doesnt use +100s for lvling they too expensive they prob will still use +20s for their lvling they wont be able to pot up your int dmg.

I had lots 1v1 with Lafite at Ebs he nearly killed me once,i was using +20s had to warp for pots




Not having +100's, serums and int robes are your own fault. That's like devils coming to conti nms and killing humans and us saying we're easy to drop because we don't have +100's and melee armour. I obviously can't test the damage etc but it'd be interesting to see what damage you'd do with 100/110 int and what damage you'd do to a similar level
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="MANTICORE"] lets say you are a human and you go conti Ebs to kill devs they are as easier to kill than humans in human conti. Most devs that hunting doesnt use +100s for lvling they too expensive they prob will still use +20s for their lvling they wont be able to pot up your int dmg. I had lots 1v1 with Lafite at Ebs he nearly killed me once,i was using +20s had to warp for pots [/quote] Not having +100's, serums and int robes are your own fault. That's like devils coming to conti nms and killing humans and us saying we're easy to drop because we don't have +100's and melee armour. I obviously can't test the damage etc but it'd be interesting to see what damage you'd do with 100/110 int and what damage you'd do to a similar level[/quote]

 

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