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SABREWOLF	At 84 str you will have 86.5 dex. You can quite easily solo horde 1 at a time at that str/dex so you don't even need a tank to be honest. BUUUT for the "perfect" char at 84 str you should go to BLG until 90 str What the difference is between them is probably minimal. Maybe +50 should have stayed until 90. My Nub is 96 dex on the on +50 route so this doesn't affect me at all, I'm just looking forward to double rates PM Reply Quote [quote="SABREWOLF"]At 84 str you will have 86.5 dex. You can quite easily solo horde 1 at a time at that str/dex so you don't even need a tank to be honest. BUUUT for the "perfect" char at 84 str you should go to BLG until 90 str What the difference is between them is probably minimal. Maybe +50 should have stayed until 90. My Nub is 96 dex on the on +50 route so this doesn't affect me at all, I'm just looking forward to double rates [/quote]	#16 2019/10/24 12:40:23
BEACHSHORTS	The point isn’t necessarily that it will be difficult to hunt at the 84 str point but rather why do anything than encourages minimising the utilisation of skins/locations within the game? The longer you spend grinding the same mob with the same backdrop the more boring the game becomes. PM Reply Quote [quote="BEACHSHORTS"]The point isn’t necessarily that it will be difficult to hunt at the 84 str point but rather why do anything than encourages minimising the utilisation of skins/locations within the game? The longer you spend grinding the same mob with the same backdrop the more boring the game becomes. [/quote]	#17 2019/10/24 12:47:50
SUBXERO	The fix that has been done means you dont need a tank to get best stats. I.e fixing all that that trying to kill valks at 10 str bullshiz etc Trying to fix the whole levling system is at this stage very difficult from the convo’s av seen with finto talking about it I would just be thankful something has been done for the first time in 6 years with the issue personally PM Reply Quote [quote="SUBXERO"]The fix that has been done means you dont need a tank to get best stats. I.e fixing all that that trying to kill valks at 10 str bullshiz etc Trying to fix the whole levling system is at this stage very difficult from the convo’s av seen with finto talking about it I would just be thankful something has been done for the first time in 6 years with the issue personally [/quote]	#18 2019/10/24 13:31:47
GROSBURR	Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised. PM Reply Quote [quote="GROSBURR"]Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised.[/quote]	#19 2019/10/24 13:52:59
SUBXERO	Well it dsnt as you can hunt any mob as long as it has more or the same str as you. Early game there prob 10 diff mobs you could hunt for a while Again 1 step at a time be thankful this 6 year issue has been solved PM Reply Quote [quote="SUBXERO"]Well it dsnt as you can hunt any mob as long as it has more or the same str as you. Early game there prob 10 diff mobs you could hunt for a while Again 1 step at a time be thankful this 6 year issue has been solved[/quote]	#20 2019/10/24 13:58:34
BEACHSHORTS	"GROSBURR"Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised. Let me know where you’re getting these drops from in d soma xD PM Reply Quote [quote="BEACHSHORTS"][quote="GROSBURR"]Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised.[/quote] Let me know where you’re getting these drops from in d soma xD[/quote]	#21 2019/10/24 14:06:55
DOUAVACADO	"GROSBURR"Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised. Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... SpoilerShow That is the reward PM Reply Quote [quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="GROSBURR"]Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised.[/quote] Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... [spoiler]That is the reward[/spoiler] [/quote]	#22 2019/10/24 14:07:30
SAPPER	"SABREWOLF"At 84 str you will have 86.5 dex. You can quite easily solo horde 1 at a time at that str/dex so you don't even need a tank to be honest. BUUUT for the "perfect" char at 84 str you should go to BLG until 90 str What the difference is between them is probably minimal. Maybe +50 should have stayed until 90. My Nub is 96 dex on the on +50 route so this doesn't affect me at all, I'm just looking forward to double rates This is a great point. Why stop at 84, may aswell be 90 (something tells me its actually 91needed) then that way you can start the rotation of Hoarde and BLG. And realistically you can rotate between apus, elite lizardmen, hoarde, drazil and BLG depending on your strength. Drops for these other mobs probably just need improving. PM Reply Quote [quote="SAPPER"][quote="SABREWOLF"]At 84 str you will have 86.5 dex. You can quite easily solo horde 1 at a time at that str/dex so you don't even need a tank to be honest. BUUUT for the "perfect" char at 84 str you should go to BLG until 90 str What the difference is between them is probably minimal. Maybe +50 should have stayed until 90. My Nub is 96 dex on the on +50 route so this doesn't affect me at all, I'm just looking forward to double rates [/quote] This is a great point. Why stop at 84, may aswell be 90 (something tells me its actually 91needed) then that way you can start the rotation of Hoarde and BLG. And realistically you can rotate between apus, elite lizardmen, hoarde, drazil and BLG depending on your strength. Drops for these other mobs probably just need improving. [/quote]	#23 2019/10/24 14:26:45
BEACHSHORTS	"SUBXERO"The fix that has been done means you dont need a tank to get best stats. I.e fixing all that that trying to kill valks at 10 str bullshiz etc Trying to fix the whole levling system is at this stage very difficult from the convo’s av seen with finto talking about it I would just be thankful something has been done for the first time in 6 years with the issue personally Maybe it is more complicated than people, myself included, realize and yes it is a positive step in the right direction but whilst the change is being made why stop it at 84 now and needlessly deprive the game of diversity of mobs etc? If there is a legitimate answer I'd love to hear it but if the rationale is just to slow down leveling then it just seems like a conscious choice to do a needless half-measure for a flimsy reason. Once again; for me scrapping +50 is as much, if not more, about opening up the use of as many mobs, locations etc to take away some of the sense of monotonous grind. If it were completely removed it also leaves the door open to spreading drops more diversely about all of the mobs that you're currently cutting out in future updates. PM Reply Quote [quote="BEACHSHORTS"][quote="SUBXERO"]The fix that has been done means you dont need a tank to get best stats. I.e fixing all that that trying to kill valks at 10 str bullshiz etc Trying to fix the whole levling system is at this stage very difficult from the convo’s av seen with finto talking about it I would just be thankful something has been done for the first time in 6 years with the issue personally [/quote] Maybe it is more complicated than people, myself included, realize and yes it is a positive step in the right direction but whilst the change is being made why stop it at 84 now and needlessly deprive the game of diversity of mobs etc? If there is a legitimate answer I'd love to hear it but if the rationale is just to slow down leveling then it just seems like a conscious choice to do a needless half-measure for a flimsy reason. Once again; for me scrapping +50 is as much, if not more, about opening up the use of as many mobs, locations etc to take away some of the sense of monotonous grind. If it were completely removed it also leaves the door open to spreading drops more diversely about all of the mobs that you're currently cutting out in future updates. [/quote]	#24 2019/10/24 15:10:44
GROSBURR	"DOUAVACADO" "GROSBURR"Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised. Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... SpoilerShow That is the reward Hunting +50 mobs is one way of playing. Can you explain to me any other way of playing? Can you hunt ANY other mobs? Do you have ANY choice other than this route, without punishing your char permanently? Use your head. PM Reply Quote [quote="GROSBURR"][quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="GROSBURR"]Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised.[/quote] Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... [spoiler]That is the reward[/spoiler] [/quote] Hunting +50 mobs is one way of playing. Can you explain to me any other way of playing? Can you hunt ANY other mobs? Do you have ANY choice other than this route, without punishing your char permanently? Use your head.[/quote]	#25 2019/10/24 15:25:48
BLIGHT	I also think it's a bit early 84 str, missing palus, df, akah, apus. PM Reply Quote [quote="BLIGHT"]I also think it's a bit early 84 str, missing palus, df, akah, apus.[/quote]	#26 2019/10/24 15:44:31
DOUAVACADO	"GROSBURR" "DOUAVACADO" "GROSBURR"Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised. Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... SpoilerShow That is the reward Hunting +50 mobs is one way of playing. Can you explain to me any other way of playing? Can you hunt ANY other mobs? Do you have ANY choice other than this route, without punishing your char permanently? Use your head. Even in black and white you missed it, wow lol You can play and level.much easier and sacrifice stats end game or put more time in and make a perfect char 1st gen chars are still viable and to make a char of similar stats would take less time, that is the choice there I really don't see a problem with it and now its increased to 84 str so can hunt more mobs running up to it easier and more efficiently PM Reply Quote [quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="GROSBURR"][quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="GROSBURR"]Would be nice to hunt mobs based on drops, rather than stats. I also like hunting mobs for great stats, but at the end of the day, the 50+ stat bonus doesn't feel like a REWARD for something, it feels like a PUNISHMENT if you do not hunt that way. This is why I always preferred Dsoma, you get to experiment more, you get to choose the way you want to hunt, you can choose what drops to hunt for. I can make a sacrifice in XP, to hunt a lesser mob but I get REWARDED by having the ability to hunt for the drops I want. The current 50+ system and even the new one still takes away the CHOICE for the player. Sorry for the caps but things need to be emphasised.[/quote] Come on mate use your head lol Hunting none +50 mobs = less time spent on special repairs, less pots used, faster stats (will feel faster but worse % per gain), hit rate will be higher, damage will be more etc .... [spoiler]That is the reward[/spoiler] [/quote] Hunting +50 mobs is one way of playing. Can you explain to me any other way of playing? Can you hunt ANY other mobs? Do you have ANY choice other than this route, without punishing your char permanently? Use your head.[/quote] Even in black and white you missed it, wow lol You can play and level.much easier and sacrifice stats end game or put more time in and make a perfect char 1st gen chars are still viable and to make a char of similar stats would take less time, that is the choice there I really don't see a problem with it and now its increased to 84 str so can hunt more mobs running up to it easier and more efficiently [/quote]	#27 2019/10/24 16:00:41
LUPISCUS	it's being made piss easy to 81 str..wotever ... you proly gona be 85 dex by then.. couple of pieces of eva ..hero boots , one other piece..u can be hunting hoardes 1 at a time nps... and ppl are still moaning ? !! waaa Update isn't even out yet and no1 knows for sure what's gona be in it and STILL moaning. As said above... its the 1st change like this in 6 years.. embrace it...don't diss it. The hardest bit is getting to 85 dex / apus, and its being handed on a plate with full +50 bonus... life gona be easy. Rome wasn't built in a day, but at least they starting. Some new styles in the hair shop ..ermm mohicans/ dreads and a few new colours..oof might have to start a new guy ;p (''I hear snowflakes on my windows'') PM Reply Quote [quote="LUPISCUS"]it's being made piss easy to 81 str..wotever ... you proly gona be 85 dex by then.. couple of pieces of eva ..hero boots , one other piece..u can be hunting hoardes 1 at a time nps... and ppl are still moaning ? !! waaa Update isn't even out yet and no1 knows for sure what's gona be in it and STILL moaning. As said above... its the 1st change like this in 6 years.. embrace it...don't diss it. The hardest bit is getting to 85 dex / apus, and its being handed on a plate with full +50 bonus... life gona be easy. Rome wasn't built in a day, but at least they starting. Some new styles in the hair shop ..ermm mohicans/ dreads and a few new colours..oof might have to start a new guy ;p (''I hear snowflakes on my windows'')[/quote]	#28 2019/10/24 16:31:18
ROCH	Not a bad start for sure, good job guys. PM Reply Quote [quote="ROCH"]Not a bad start for sure, good job guys. [/quote]	#29 2019/10/24 16:38:37
BLIGHT	"LUPISCUS"it's being made piss easy to 81 str..wotever ... you proly gona be 85 dex by then.. couple of pieces of eva ..hero boots , one other piece..u can be hunting hoardes 1 at a time nps... and ppl are still moaning ? !! waaa Update isn't even out yet and no1 knows for sure what's gona be in it and STILL moaning. As said above... its the 1st change like this in 6 years.. embrace it...don't diss it. The hardest bit is getting to 85 dex / apus, and its being handed on a plate with full +50 bonus... life gona be easy. Rome wasn't built in a day, but at least they starting (''I hear snowflakes on my windows'') Where's everyone getting eva from lol? I have 110+ str and 1 3% eva piece gifted to me. PM Reply Quote [quote="BLIGHT"][quote="LUPISCUS"]it's being made piss easy to 81 str..wotever ... you proly gona be 85 dex by then.. couple of pieces of eva ..hero boots , one other piece..u can be hunting hoardes 1 at a time nps... and ppl are still moaning ? !! waaa Update isn't even out yet and no1 knows for sure what's gona be in it and STILL moaning. As said above... its the 1st change like this in 6 years.. embrace it...don't diss it. The hardest bit is getting to 85 dex / apus, and its being handed on a plate with full +50 bonus... life gona be easy. Rome wasn't built in a day, but at least they starting (''I hear snowflakes on my windows'')[/quote] Where's everyone getting eva from lol? I have 110+ str and 1 3% eva piece gifted to me.[/quote]	#30 2019/10/24 16:39:13

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