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HURRICANO |
also, i think str req for bow is daft... Im nearly pure bow and i wont be able to use stinger till i have 100str, which by that time my dex will be 100+, which is 7dex over the req?
By the time i have 110str for physco crossbow ill have 112dex at a guess? |
#16 2014/07/17 19:24:28 |
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SICKK |
Buff the speed of the blood stained sword or up it's attack imo. Compared to the knuckle it's fucking terrible, the 2h sword has 5 less min dmg than the knuck rofl...... =/
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#17 2014/07/17 19:26:47 |
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BRAINDATA |
2h swords being speed E has never made sense to me... literally a waste of skins that never get used because 1h counterpart is so much better.
Agree knux req is daft.. |
#18 2014/07/17 19:49:27 |
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CYROX |
Its unfair to compare the 2hand sword against snakebite. If pammy dropped a 2-hand sword, then the new gorshak sword would be based on a higher starting point and therefore require additional attack (if that makes sense). Saying it's a jump from snake bite inbalance's things.
I think most weaps are fine. Personall feel crossbow should be atleast 1150 and sword 1100. Panclaw then reduced by maybe 2-2 are style says and requirements increased. Think those small tweaks would balance things a bit better. (edit( seems to be a general consensus that 'majority' of weaps are fine. So if we compare the worst (sword) against the best (nux). Taking those two and comparing them against each other clearly indicates a MASSIVE issue. Same attack but worlds apart in recoil?
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[quote="CYROX"]Its unfair to compare the 2hand sword against snakebite. If pammy dropped a 2-hand sword, then the new gorshak sword would be based on a higher starting point and therefore require additional attack (if that makes sense). Saying it's a jump from snake bite inbalance's things.
I think most weaps are fine. Personall feel crossbow should be atleast 1150 and sword 1100. Panclaw then reduced by maybe 2-2 are style says and requirements increased. Think those small tweaks would balance things a bit better.
(edit( seems to be a general consensus that 'majority' of weaps are fine.
So if we compare the worst (sword) against the best (nux). Taking those two and comparing them against each other clearly indicates a MASSIVE issue. Same attack but worlds apart in recoil?[/quote]
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#19 2014/07/17 20:31:52 |
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_SEPHIROTH_ |
"STYLE"I think Sword & Axe could do with a 2~2 damage increase. Axe can take a dick. |
#20 2014/07/17 21:20:58 |
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ACAELUS |
the sword att would be bearable if it was spd D the bow should be E spd or have its att nerfed more
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#21 2014/07/17 21:57:06 |
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CONTISTOREE |
lets not be nerfing my pan knux ;[
on a serious note I do think the req for pan claw are very low and the str req should be at least 110-115 |
#22 2014/07/17 22:17:44 |
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SARUMAN |
Ironic how the main person asking for a sword buff uses sword...
Looking at that sword, gets a decent attack gain from the previous weapon and (other than Mrwolf who also was using a ripper the other day) who pvp's with a snake bite? It's always with rippers and the gorshak sword is an upgrade over them..... and they drop base speed E funnily enough, suck it up and deal with it... Every class has ups and downs the fact that 5th sword is an insane damage dealer is all the more reason to keep the speed slower or your have an insane amount of end game chars with 5th swords running around destroying folk
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[quote="SARUMAN"]Ironic how the main person asking for a sword buff uses sword...
Looking at that sword, gets a decent attack gain from the previous weapon and (other than Mrwolf who also was using a ripper the other day) who pvp's with a snake bite? It's always with rippers and the gorshak sword is an upgrade over them..... and they drop base speed E funnily enough, suck it up and deal with it...
Every class has ups and downs the fact that 5th sword is an insane damage dealer is all the more reason to keep the speed slower or your have an insane amount of end game chars with 5th swords running around destroying folk [/quote]
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#23 2014/07/17 22:40:55 |
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SATAN2 |
I'm glad someone finally brought it up. Bear in mind the following is from a nux user (albeit one that doesn't play much).
Pan Claw is incredibly, incredibly OP. That average attack with that recoil is madness. It should never have comparable attack with swords or axes, simply due to the speed. Either Pan Claw attack should be reduced fairly significantly, or speed should be altered to at least C.
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[quote="SATAN2"]I'm glad someone finally brought it up. Bear in mind the following is from a nux user (albeit one that doesn't play much).
Pan Claw is incredibly, incredibly OP. That average attack with that recoil is madness. It should never have comparable attack with swords or axes, simply due to the speed.
Either Pan Claw attack should be reduced fairly significantly, or speed should be altered to at least C. [/quote]
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#24 2014/07/17 23:53:32 |
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ZYZZ |
Over reaction to be honest, lets see what epic/intense tags have first before asking for wholesale changes.
Things look ok as they are at the moment, wait for drops men. |
#25 2014/07/18 00:25:52 |
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SATAN2 |
You don't think a nux with higher average attack and 4 speeds faster than the sword is a bit ridiculous?
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#26 2014/07/18 00:33:13 |
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ZYZZ |
No.
Wait for tags. |
#27 2014/07/18 00:34:43 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Let's take a look at the improvements. As stated earlier 90% of hsoma at the moment are bow and this is why knuckle has had such a push in order to make it a viable weapon. Also remember 5th sword is quite powerful thus less of a need for a stronger sword.
Also take into account the tag system. We base it on percentages so 20% removed off of 1200 is 960. Where removing 20% off of 750 is 600. Bloodstained Blade 34 51 4-11 over Snakebite, 9 - 9 over Ripper Snake Bite 30 40 Mammoth Mauler 33 55 5 - 7 Blue Wave Axe 28 48 Psycho Crossbow 36 50 5 - 4 Stinger 31 46 Gore Lancet 40 57 6 - 10 Pike 34 47 Pan Claw 39 47 5-10 Hoarde Hands 34 37 What I will say now is that none of these weapons will be nerfed. If it comes to the case where we feel they need changing when more tags are apparent in game of these weapons then we will look at it. For now there purely isn't enough ingame/ have they been used enough to rationalise any changes or improvements to other weapons.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Let's take a look at the improvements. As stated earlier 90% of hsoma at the moment are bow and this is why knuckle has had such a push in order to make it a viable weapon. Also remember 5th sword is quite powerful thus less of a need for a stronger sword.
Also take into account the tag system. We base it on percentages so 20% removed off of 1200 is 960. Where removing 20% off of 750 is 600.
Bloodstained Blade 34 51 [b]4-11 over Snakebite, 9 - 9 over Ripper[/b]
Snake Bite 30 40
Mammoth Mauler 33 55 [b] 5 - 7[/b]
Blue Wave Axe 28 48
Psycho Crossbow 36 50 [b] 5 - 4[/b]
Stinger 31 46
Gore Lancet 40 57 [b]6 - 10[/b]
Pike 34 47
Pan Claw 39 47 [b]5-10[/b]
Hoarde Hands 34 37
What I will say now is that none of these weapons will be nerfed. If it comes to the case where we feel they need changing when more tags are apparent in game of these weapons then we will look at it.
For now there purely isn't enough ingame/ have they been used enough to rationalise any changes or improvements to other weapons.
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#28 2014/07/18 05:26:00 |
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S0RCERER |
If comparing bsb to ripper, surely compare pan claw to raptor knuck.
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#29 2014/07/18 05:57:22 |
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NOTMAT |
"S0RCERER"If comparing bsb to ripper, surely compare pan claw to raptor knuck. When you back playing ;[? |
#30 2014/07/18 05:59:49 |
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