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Gorshak weapons dont make sense...

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Just wondering why they have been given such random requirements / attack / speeds...

1) A two handed E speed sword 42.5 attack but a 750 (Almost A+) recoil knuk has 43 average attack? lol..?
Axe also has pretty poor attack (Still 44 average) but judging how its the one of the most popular weapon ingame I dont think that really needs much attention but how can knuk have more attack than sword?
I dont think after i lose sword skill there will be anyone who can even wear this, maybe gisado.


2) Every single crossbow ingame is E speed as base, why is psycho cross bow D speed? Given its pretty good attack, it shouldnt be easy to make a fast one.
Links back to the sword point really, the bow is faster, does more damage and has range 7...

3) Why does Pan claw have 100 str req?
Hoarde Hands and Stinger both have 100 str req (Even though knuk gives more str than bow, fair enough)
Psycho crossbow has 110 str req, which seems an obvious follow up on the 100 str req of the previous tier
Given knuk gives more str than bow, and sword/spear/axe has 122 130 137 str reqs, knuk clearly should be atleast 110 but surely even more at ~115.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Just wondering why they have been given such random requirements / attack / speeds... 1) A two handed E speed sword 42.5 attack but a 750 (Almost A+) recoil knuk has 43 average attack? lol..? Axe also has pretty poor attack (Still 44 average) but judging how its the one of the most popular weapon ingame I dont think that really needs much attention but how can knuk have more attack than sword? I dont think after i lose sword skill there will be anyone who can even wear this, maybe gisado. 2) Every single crossbow ingame is E speed as base, why is psycho cross bow D speed? Given its pretty good attack, it shouldnt be easy to make a fast one. Links back to the sword point really, the bow is faster, does more damage and has range 7... 3) Why does Pan claw have 100 str req? Hoarde Hands and Stinger both have 100 str req (Even though knuk gives more str than bow, fair enough) Psycho crossbow has 110 str req, which seems an obvious follow up on the 100 str req of the previous tier Given knuk gives more str than bow, and sword/spear/axe has 122 130 137 str reqs, knuk clearly should be atleast 110 but surely even more at ~115.[/quote]
Dan's logic. Its about as good as AIDS.

Or Brad Cole's grammar...

Or Secret's ginger hair...

Or LordCoos' small man legs...

Or Dave's/Steve's bunk bed frame...

Or GanonPK's name...

#BringBackParamount
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[quote="BUNKBEDS"]Dan's logic. Its about as good as AIDS. Or Brad Cole's grammar... Or Secret's ginger hair... Or LordCoos' small man legs... Or Dave's/Steve's bunk bed frame... Or GanonPK's name... #BringBackParamount[/quote]
I have been wondering the exact same thing tbh. As a nux user the Gorshak weapons a favour me the most, but they other weapons just don't seem to make sense. Not seen the axe, but the bow and spear look to be good upgrades from pammy weaps. About what I would expect. The sword is very average. And the knuckle is just insane.

Would be nice to know the thought and reasoning behind these weapons and to understand how they were tested and balanced.
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[quote="CYROX"]I have been wondering the exact same thing tbh. As a nux user the Gorshak weapons a favour me the most, but they other weapons just don't seem to make sense. Not seen the axe, but the bow and spear look to be good upgrades from pammy weaps. About what I would expect. The sword is very average. And the knuckle is just insane. Would be nice to know the thought and reasoning behind these weapons and to understand how they were tested and balanced. [/quote]
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[quote="BUNKBEDS"][spoiler]Dan's char is quite clearly a knuxer, all donations go towards paying for his pilot.[/spoiler][/quote]
Bow should be speed e as basic like others I agree but unfortunately... Weapons have dropped and people have them now cant change anything
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Bow should be speed e as basic like others I agree but unfortunately... Weapons have dropped and people have them now cant change anything [/quote]
Keep my large legs of peace out of this.
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[quote="LORDCOOS"]Keep my large legs of peace out of this.[/quote]
"BUNKBEDS"Dan's logic. Its about as good as AIDS.

Or Brad Cole's grammar...

Or Secret's ginger hair...

Or LordCoos' small man legs...

Or Dave's/Steve's bunk bed frame...

Or GanonPK's name...

#BringBackParamount






Welcome back Gump. We've missed you.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="BUNKBEDS"]Dan's logic. Its about as good as AIDS. Or Brad Cole's grammar... Or Secret's ginger hair... Or LordCoos' small man legs... Or Dave's/Steve's bunk bed frame... Or GanonPK's name... #BringBackParamount[/quote] [img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27403133.jpg[/img] Welcome back Gump. We've missed you.[/quote]
Of course they can be changed. Dont need to leave something broken for another year because people got 2 months worth of dodgy weapons.

Sword users will get better weapons hopefully?, ul to anyone who has one already.

Bows could get worse speed wise if deemed to be too fast, (Could manually change recoil on the only 2 bows that are ingame?)

Knuk str req increase, absolutely no reason why this cant go ahead because people have them.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Of course they can be changed. Dont need to leave something broken for another year because people got 2 months worth of dodgy weapons. Sword users will get better weapons hopefully?, ul to anyone who has one already. Bows could get worse speed wise if deemed to be too fast, (Could manually change recoil on the only 2 bows that are ingame?) Knuk str req increase, absolutely no reason why this cant go ahead because people have them.[/quote]
"FUJITORA"Just wondering why they have been given such random requirements / attack / speeds...

1) A two handed E speed sword 42.5 attack but a 750 (Almost A+) recoil knuk has 43 average attack? lol..?
Axe also has pretty poor attack (Still 44 average) but judging how its the one of the most popular weapon ingame I dont think that really needs much attention but how can knuk have more attack than sword?
I dont think after i lose sword skill there will be anyone who can even wear this, maybe gisado.


2) Every single crossbow ingame is E speed as base, why is psycho cross bow D speed? Given its pretty good attack, it shouldnt be easy to make a fast one.
Links back to the sword point really, the bow is faster, does more damage and has range 7...

3) Why does Pan claw have 100 str req?
Hoarde Hands and Stinger both have 100 str req (Even though knuk gives more str than bow, fair enough)
Psycho crossbow has 110 str req, which seems an obvious follow up on the 100 str req of the previous tier
Given knuk gives more str than bow, and sword/spear/axe has 122 130 137 str reqs, knuk clearly should be atleast 110 but surely even more at ~115.


As much as it pains me to say it, I agree we everything Fuji has just said
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[quote="ACAELUS"][quote="FUJITORA"]Just wondering why they have been given such random requirements / attack / speeds... 1) A two handed E speed sword 42.5 attack but a 750 (Almost A+) recoil knuk has 43 average attack? lol..? Axe also has pretty poor attack (Still 44 average) but judging how its the one of the most popular weapon ingame I dont think that really needs much attention but how can knuk have more attack than sword? I dont think after i lose sword skill there will be anyone who can even wear this, maybe gisado. 2) Every single crossbow ingame is E speed as base, why is psycho cross bow D speed? Given its pretty good attack, it shouldnt be easy to make a fast one. Links back to the sword point really, the bow is faster, does more damage and has range 7... 3) Why does Pan claw have 100 str req? Hoarde Hands and Stinger both have 100 str req (Even though knuk gives more str than bow, fair enough) Psycho crossbow has 110 str req, which seems an obvious follow up on the 100 str req of the previous tier Given knuk gives more str than bow, and sword/spear/axe has 122 130 137 str reqs, knuk clearly should be atleast 110 but surely even more at ~115.[/quote] As much as it pains me to say it, I agree we everything Fuji has just said[/quote]
Should be easy enough to do. They did it with 67 skill knux on dsoma when it had no dex req
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[quote="STRIKE"]Should be easy enough to do. They did it with 67 skill knux on dsoma when it had no dex req[/quote]
Changes have been made to give some of the less popular weapons a boost. It's something myself and ghostlord discussed when we first approached these weapons. Bow has been nerfed for that particular reason also.

Here's the untagged values of attack for comparison.


Bloodstained Blade 34 51
Snake Bite 30 40

Mammoth Mauler 33 55
Blue Wave Axe 28 48

Psycho Crossbow 36 50
Stinger 31 46

Gore Lancet 40 57
Pike 34 47


Pan Claw 39 47
Hoarde Hands 34 37

It is unlikely that they will change.

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[quote="ISYLVER"]Changes have been made to give some of the less popular weapons a boost. It's something myself and ghostlord discussed when we first approached these weapons. Bow has been nerfed for that particular reason also. Here's the untagged values of attack for comparison. Bloodstained Blade 34 51 Snake Bite 30 40 Mammoth Mauler 33 55 Blue Wave Axe 28 48 Psycho Crossbow 36 50 Stinger 31 46 Gore Lancet 40 57 Pike 34 47 Pan Claw 39 47 Hoarde Hands 34 37 It is unlikely that they will change. [/quote]
What are the recoils for comparison also? If the Xbow is faster than the two handed sword I feel this still needs adressing as the sword has the second worst attack of them all
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[quote="ACAELUS"]What are the recoils for comparison also? If the Xbow is faster than the two handed sword I feel this still needs adressing as the sword has the second worst attack of them all[/quote]
Bloodstained Blade 1200
Snake Bite 1000
Mammoth Mauler 1200
Blue Wave Axe 1100
Psycho Crossbow 1100
Stinger 1100
Gore Lancet 1150
Pike 1200
Pan Claw 750
Hoarde Hands 750

Ripper: The Ripper 1200
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Bloodstained Blade 1200 Snake Bite 1000 Mammoth Mauler 1200 Blue Wave Axe 1100 Psycho Crossbow 1100 Stinger 1100 Gore Lancet 1150 Pike 1200 Pan Claw 750 Hoarde Hands 750 Ripper: The Ripper 1200[/quote]
Tbh i think the attacks on everything except the sword is fine...

If you work by average attack, which is the only thing that matters sword has the worst attack. The sword is a 2 handed sword (Cant really compare it to snake bite) with 1200 recoil, and the knuckle has better attack than the sword at 750 recoil... Honestly speaking I think sword could do with being put to 1150 the same as spear atleast and having its attack increased...

The speed is the main issue, Psycho crossbow is D speed with 1100 recoil... Just thought it should be E 1200...

The current knuk str req can't be justified in any way and surely needs changing.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Tbh i think the attacks on everything except the sword is fine... If you work by average attack, which is the only thing that matters sword has the worst attack. The sword is a 2 handed sword (Cant really compare it to snake bite) with 1200 recoil, and the knuckle has better attack than the sword at 750 recoil... Honestly speaking I think sword could do with being put to 1150 the same as spear atleast and having its attack increased... The speed is the main issue, Psycho crossbow is D speed with 1100 recoil... Just thought it should be E 1200... The current knuk str req can't be justified in any way and surely needs changing.[/quote]
My 0.2.

Spear and Bow are good.

I think Sword & Axe could do with a 2~2 damage increase.

I think knuck if it had 2~2 removed would be perfect.

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[quote="STYLE"]My 0.2. Spear and Bow are good. I think Sword & Axe could do with a 2~2 damage increase. I think knuck if it had 2~2 removed would be perfect. [/quote]

 

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