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[quote="FUJITORA"]Everything is known, we are not going to discover the unknown by waiting for tagged weapons to come ingame. Everyone knows they provide 10% more attack/recoil per attack. So you can predict what will happen / come ingame when people get better tag weapons, rather than waiting 6 months for that to happen... [quote="ISYLVER"]Let's take a look at the improvements. As stated earlier 90% of hsoma at the moment are bow and this is why knuckle has had such a push in order to make it a viable weapon. Also remember 5th sword is quite powerful thus less of a need for a stronger sword. What I will say now is that none of these weapons will be nerfed. If it comes to the case where we feel they need changing when more tags are apparent in game of these weapons then we will look at it. For now there purely isn't enough ingame/ have they been used enough to rationalise any changes or improvements to other weapons. [/quote] If you are implying sword will get more gains from tags than knuks that is wrong. Look at it this way: If you have a 100 recoil weapon and you want to do twice as much damage, you need to hit twice as fast. So you need to hit twice as quickly, so it needs to be only 50 recoil faster (50% faster) for this to happen. If you have a 1000 recoil weapon and want to do twice as much damage, you need to hit twice as fast. So you need to hit twice as quickly, so it needs to be 500 recoil faster (50% faster) for this to happen. Going by this recoil changes you have mentioned will provide no real benefit to sword, the higher the average attack on the weapon the better the gains will be in terms of overall dps gain. So if anything knuk benefits more from being higher tag than sword if anything since it has higher attack. What is the justification for bow being D and not E like all other crossbows and for pan claw having a str req ~15 lower than it should be?[/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"][quote="ISYLVER"]Because regardless of its aesthetical skin it's still a bow. By that logic we wouldn't be having this conversation if it was apus skin. As I stated earlier no weapons will be nerfed. I want time to look at the usage, balance and other such factors rather than make a decision on a thread that quite frankly completely ignores my response. Don't like it I don't care. We don't make rash decisions. I'm glad knuckle benefits more than other weapons. Hopefully it will increase it's usage compared to the amount of bow users that are about.[/quote] Completely agree. Patience.[/quote]

[quote="CYROX"]Surely the DPS of weapons needs to be calculated? It's clear the DPS on these weapons are way out of sink. Nux with same attack as sword with half the speed will be putting out a ridic amount of damage. Nux has always been a weapon for pve not pvp. By trying to balance it with pvp suddenly takes it from being the best pve weapon, to a complete OP weapon for pve. [/quote]

[quote="BRAINDATA"][quote="ISYLVER"] I'm glad knuckle benefits more than other weapons. Hopefully it will increase it's usage compared to the amount of bow users that are about.[/quote] sylver... maybe sword needs to same treatment? its a dead wep these days!! 2H swords need a buff! esp the gorshak 1!! [/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"]You boys got an epic drop of each weapon btw?[/quote]

[quote="CYROX"]Maybe you struggle Zyzz. But it doesn't take a genius to work out approximate epic tag stacks. Stop spamming useless points. [/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"][quote="CYROX"]Maybe you struggle Zyzz. But it doesn't take a genius to work out approximate epic tag stacks. Stop spamming useless points. [/quote] You boys got an epic drop of each weapon btw?[/quote]

[quote="CYROX"]No don't need them. Only need a lil brain power. I got an epic tag sun bed tho mate. [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"]Can we take str requirement off stinger and psycho xbow please :)[/quote]

[quote="SICKK"]Who are the other high lvl sword users ;o, sword is more dead than knuckle lol. May as well switch to knuck on Zao ;'[ Sword needs some love =[[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]If you want to calculate DPS you'll have to take auras into the calculation as well, which is near impossible. Looking at this thread I think it's alright. [/quote]

[quote="SICKK"][quote="S0RCERER"]If comparing bsb to ripper, surely compare pan claw to raptor knuck. [/quote] qft 27-29 800 recoil is a untagged Raptor I think / Pan Claw 39-47 750 recoil + 10% eva dodge aura with a 4th which is every 10? seconds 12-18 added.............................. Untagged Ripper 25-42 1200 recoil / BsB 34-51 with 5th ( which takes a lot of effort to get and only really does insane damage if you have way over a targets Str ) 9-9 added Balanced aye? [/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"]Sword needs love? Lol'd, fuji and the swordies want improvements to their weapon, shocker. Horus does mass damage with his 5th, again.. where your epics/intense at?[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]My posts says i will be losing sword skill very soon, i dont think i have ever used sword to pvp with. I have 2 pos pouches in my wh because i dont plan on learning 5th sword. Personally i dont care if sword gets a boost or not, just thought it didnt make sense, and people seem to agree eith me. But yeah, lets see in 6 months time when people have these "epic" weapons how many people will actually use them, even though we know pretty accurately now what their stats will be.[/quote]