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ZYZZ |
I struggle to stone Style because he always runs away :-(
Joking - On a serious note though can only echo what Style and above said, its a nightmare to land it on someone due to what I can only assume to be lag because im either next to them or sometimes infront. Cheers Fin
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[quote="ZYZZ"]I struggle to stone Style because he always runs away :-(
Joking - On a serious note though can only echo what Style and above said, its a nightmare to land it on someone due to what I can only assume to be lag because im either next to them or sometimes infront.
Cheers Fin[/quote]
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#16 2014/08/05 14:20:47 |
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S0RCERER |
"FINITO"There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check). Yes, the animation is definitely causing a delay. If you use stone and someone moves/gbirds, the stone affect can do the following: 1) Instantly cancel. 2) Show the character in location A when they're really in location B. 3) Freeze them a couple of spaces away from where you initially hit them. All 3 outcomes occur more often than actually successfully paralysing someone!
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="FINITO"]There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check).[/quote]
Yes, the animation is definitely causing a delay.
If you use stone and someone moves/gbirds, the stone affect can do the following:
1) Instantly cancel.
2) Show the character in location A when they're really in location B.
3) Freeze them a couple of spaces away from where you initially hit them.
All 3 outcomes occur more often than actually successfully paralysing someone![/quote]
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#17 2014/08/05 16:53:28 |
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GENEFUSER |
"S0RCERER""FINITO"There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check). What about the one which goes a little like... "Yes! This is definitely gonna get them!" ... ...... ........ .......... *Your character stops on the spot where you tried to use 3rd on the enemy* *Enemy is not actually there* *You are now 3-4 spaces further behind in the chase than before*
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[quote="GENEFUSER"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="FINITO"]There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check).[/quote]
Yes, the animation is definitely causing a delay.
If you use stone and someone moves/gbirds, the stone affect can do the following:
1) Instantly cancel.
2) Show the character in location A when they're really in location B.
3) Freeze them a couple of spaces away from where you initially hit them.
All 3 outcomes occur more often than actually successfully paralysing someone![/quote]
What about the one which goes a little like...
"Yes! This is definitely gonna get them!"
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*Your character stops on the spot where you tried to use 3rd on the enemy*
*Enemy is not actually there*
*You are now 3-4 spaces further behind in the chase than before*[/quote]
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#18 2014/08/05 17:01:01 |
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IVYSAUR |
"FINITO"There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check). If it is correctly working then i see absolutely no reason to increase it to range 2 unless eveyr other range 1 aura becomes range 2 also.
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[quote="IVYSAUR"][quote="FINITO"]There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check).[/quote]
If it is correctly working then i see absolutely no reason to increase it to range 2 unless eveyr other range 1 aura becomes range 2 also.[/quote]
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#19 2014/08/05 17:24:44 |
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NOTMAT |
"IVYSAUR""FINITO"There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check). Irrelevant point as it's not working correctly.
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[quote="NOTMAT"][quote="IVYSAUR"][quote="FINITO"]There should not be a delay for Stone it should cast the same as 4th knuckle / sword. Unless the client is using the animation length as a timer before sending the attack (not sure need to check).[/quote]
If it is correctly working then i see absolutely no reason to increase it to range 2 unless eveyr other range 1 aura becomes range 2 also.[/quote]
Irrelevant point as it's not working correctly.[/quote]
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#20 2014/08/05 17:34:33 |
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FINITO [Staff] |
Cast Animation time for 4th knux is 1.3 seconds and Stone is 1.4 seconds. So thats not much of a difference. Anyway going to make the animation really slow to confirm if it makes any difference or not and go from there.
Edit: Animation time has nothing to do with when the stone is applied it happens straight away. So there is no difference with something like 4th knux so I don't know why it is that you can manage to attack with that but not Stone.
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[quote="FINITO"]Cast Animation time for 4th knux is 1.3 seconds and Stone is 1.4 seconds. So thats not much of a difference. Anyway going to make the animation really slow to confirm if it makes any difference or not and go from there.
[b]Edit: Animation time has nothing to do with when the stone is applied it happens straight away. So there is no difference with something like 4th knux so I don't know why it is that you can manage to attack with that but not Stone.[/b][/quote]
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#21 2014/08/05 21:55:11 |
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ZYZZ |
Thanks for testing Fin.
Due to feedback can we possible look at 1.5/2 range if so? or something to possible counteract the issue we are seeing with stone in the delay? This actually doesn't directly benefit me btw as I'm dropping axe in a few days but its an annoying issue for other axers I'm sure.
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Thanks for testing Fin.
Due to feedback can we possible look at 1.5/2 range if so? or something to possible counteract the issue we are seeing with stone in the delay? This actually doesn't directly benefit me btw as I'm dropping axe in a few days but its an annoying issue for other axers I'm sure.[/quote]
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#22 2014/08/05 23:18:18 |
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ACE |
"ZYZZ"Thanks for testing Fin. I agree its annoying when u cant get it off but range 2 is a big no for me personally axe is so OP allready, there are other class's that need more attention..
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[quote="ACE"][quote="ZYZZ"]Thanks for testing Fin.
Due to feedback can we possible look at 1.5/2 range if so? or something to possible counteract the issue we are seeing with stone in the delay? This actually doesn't directly benefit me btw as I'm dropping axe in a few days but its an annoying issue for other axers I'm sure.[/quote]
I agree its annoying when u cant get it off but range 2 is a big no for me personally axe is so OP allready, there are other class's that need more attention..[/quote]
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#23 2014/08/06 10:29:03 |
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IPHIOS |
I'm not a soma professor by any standard. But if you duel log - often you see chars in different places on each screen. Could it be in relation to that? Is that what you mean? ;o
Personally I'd consider range 2 a bit op ;o |
#24 2014/08/06 11:31:07 |
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IPHIOS |
Dual* how embarrassing.
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#25 2014/08/06 11:32:06 |
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FINITO [Staff] |
Well only thing looking into atm is the possible difference between casting other auras that have range 1 and stone. But I don't notice any difference.
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#26 2014/08/06 11:44:55 |
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ZYZZ |
Then if we do not notice any difference we have to take into account the latency aspect perhaps? I'm not saying people can land 4th knux/5th sword etc. 100% of the time however there is an issue somewhere with the stone aura, 100% of axe users can vouch.
Range 2 is a bit OP however its so frustrating trying to stone someone without a bind or 'force walk' ingame, run to one map to the other etc. Perhaps range 2 for 5th only?
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Then if we do not notice any difference we have to take into account the latency aspect perhaps? I'm not saying people can land 4th knux/5th sword etc. 100% of the time however there is an issue somewhere with the stone aura, 100% of axe users can vouch.
Range 2 is a bit OP however its so frustrating trying to stone someone without a bind or 'force walk' ingame, run to one map to the other etc.
Perhaps range 2 for 5th only?[/quote]
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#27 2014/08/06 12:41:08 |
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GENEFUSER |
"ZYZZ"Then if we do not notice any difference we have to take into account the latency aspect perhaps? I'm not saying people can land 4th knux/5th sword etc. 100% of the time however there is an issue somewhere with the stone aura, 100% of axe users can vouch. range 2, and duration based on skill/str. Right now it's 'overpowered' because people stone then use int. Less people would think it to be too strong of all the int junkies' stone had a shorter duration.
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[quote="GENEFUSER"][quote="ZYZZ"]Then if we do not notice any difference we have to take into account the latency aspect perhaps? I'm not saying people can land 4th knux/5th sword etc. 100% of the time however there is an issue somewhere with the stone aura, 100% of axe users can vouch.
Range 2 is a bit OP however its so frustrating trying to stone someone without a bind or 'force walk' ingame, run to one map to the other etc.
Perhaps range 2 for 5th only?[/quote]
range 2, and duration based on skill/str.
Right now it's 'overpowered' because people stone then use int.
Less people would think it to be too strong of all the int junkies' stone had a shorter duration. [/quote]
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#28 2014/08/06 13:31:30 |
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DR3AD |
Maybe 2 handed axes have a range of 2 when casting stone, and stone should defo reduce df dex!
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#29 2014/08/07 16:14:51 |
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HURRICANE |
Stone needs to stay range 1, same as 4th Knuckle. Its part of the game. If you change stone to range 2 youve got to change 4th knuckle to range 2. Dont think anything should be changed.
Plum stoned me a few times while i was running, didnt see any problem.. |
#30 2014/08/08 06:39:56 |
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