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[quote="TYRESE"]If drop rates are the same across the board it actually doesn’t make sense that I can burn my rested at 130 at df and maybe get 5+ diamonds for 100% but that same 100% at trolls I’d most likely get 0. Granted there’s one or two more df killed the make up the % gap but even so if I did it properly and measured the % per df and then how much % per diamond on average over 10 drops I can still with certainty say that you’d get more at df than you would at trolls for the same number of mobs etc.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Take a look at the emporium hsoma section then re read this thread, it tells me the economy is broken, Everything evolves around diamonds.... Players asking for 4-5-6 small diamonds for a double tab Players asking for 4-5 small diamonds for a negamare tier weapon. Players asking for 2-3-4 small diamonds for new ancient mage parts. Diamonds, that’s the main item driving the economy. Something is wrong if the only item players want more than anything is all down to diamonds, jades on the other side of the gem family is hardly used in anything. Maybe time to look more closely at recipes???[/quote]

[quote="AMOEBA"]could that be due to lower lev botters farming diamonds at df and the higher lev players not getting any.. hence the high prices asked for these diamonds? even if not botting they doing it dual logging whilst doing other things because df are so easy... reduce diamonds from df and increase them to higher mobs !! [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Your looking at drop rates in experience time you use/gain it’s the speed in kills, as in the quicker you can run through them, i could get a small diamond roughly ever 30-40 mins normal rates that time would increase on higher mobs due to taking longer to kill.[/quote]

[quote="AMOEBA"]oh my. see above post.. page 2[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]There needs to be a step away from diamonds this can’t continue with this item being the most needed/wanted item in game, rubies are going in the same direction too due to them being used/needed in many recipes.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Diamonds are the main currency because the majority of people have finished their accu and attack kit long ago. As mentioned if you added another set of armor actually worth upgrading it would bring rubies back into play and revive the economy again rather than simple SD SD SD. Raven, even if you say a df takes 5 seconds to kill and a troll takes 10 seconds, you still don’t get the dia in double the time while hunting trolls. It’s next to non existent. I don’t know why you are arguing this, you’ve capped and hunted trolls, you’ll know as well as all the players who’ve hunted there that they simply don’t drop any item enough to make them viable to farm. I can kill elder mags quicker which drop Nega weaps, elders were meant to be the end game farming mob not something which I can fly through quicker than trolls.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]But more palus/devilfish are being killed than trolls hence why the palus/devilfish will drop more than trolls.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Having more people kill the mob at the same time doesn’t effect the drop rates. It was confirmed by fin many many moons ago. I think I got the wrong end of the stick there. Raven you’re a decent guy but I personally think you’ve got it all wrong on this, as a game based on progression you shouldn’t have to go backwards to gain an item which theoretically is for end game use in terms of making that ‘perfect +8 all SS weapon’ that should be achievable via hunting the mobs in your stat bracket. Time for sleep for now![/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I agree you shouldn’t have to go backwards on mobs to farm for items, that’s why I said to me the economy is broken if the game is making you have to do that due to the diamonds demand.[/quote]

[quote="WIPEOUT"]I read through this. Yes new armours I think would take the demand away from Dias but only for a little while, from what I understand it's easier to get +5 then it is +5 to +8. I don't believe for a second if drops are increased on SD at boars trolls and raptors, valks, wasps and spiders it would effect df and palus aswell. (Or even an increase across these mobs for all drops not just SD) They palus n df drop.something almost every kill, the end game ish mobs can drop nothing for 5-6 kills then give a set of bones. I like the discussion that's going on, and I'm not looking for a sd every 10 drops or so. But 171-201 at boars was 0 sd (havnt got far enough into trolls to be able to make an assumption yet) they just seem next to impossible to get... Unless your at df and palus If new players came into the game and got told it'll take you approx X hours to get a large diamond after hitting the max level to fail making a ss and then if your lucky enough to success then fail at anvil. I just think you should have a chance at hiigher chance obtaining enough stuff to try that whilst your leveling then is currently available for the average person. [/quote]

[quote="HOGAN"]I'm level 117, 171str and 222int and I've had 16 small diamonds from drops and quests. I also did the 3000 devil fish quest. 22int at wasps and I've had 2 small diamonds. I'd say that upping the drop rate on high level mobs would be a good thing. [/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]It’s always good to have a sensible discussion instead of a flame fest. Let’s hope some changes are made to help out all players across the board.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Maybe the focus should be a new item in preparation for new weapons that will have higher attack but slower recoil when they drop. Greater tablet of evil ( just for the purpose I’ve named it) slightly more better than the SS Can only be upgraded 5 times, once you managed to get +5 will 5 greater tablet of evil the recoil is now capped at whatever you got then could use the next possible 3 upgrades for more attack or accuracy or both. Only dropped from boars/shaman onwards.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I like the idea of something along the lines of an ultimate SS which makes takes recoil off and also adds attack or a stat of sorts. Could make the stat added dependant which mate you use. For example mares blood with a large ruby gives str Large sapp gives int Etc etc.[/quote]