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We’ve all kinda come to the same conclusion.

It’s been a good discussion with some good ideas thrown about also. Let’s atleast keep it sensible and hope the GM’s take note. As soon as we start to argue that’s when things aren’t actioned.
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[quote="TITUSES"]We’ve all kinda come to the same conclusion. It’s been a good discussion with some good ideas thrown about also. Let’s atleast keep it sensible and hope the GM’s take note. As soon as we start to argue that’s when things aren’t actioned.[/quote]
don't think any1's been arguing..
you have to remember the gm's don't play the game.....

telling them everythin is hunkydory and plentiful .. is more likely to end in no action being taken

anyway.. if things are plentiful

no prob anywhere..all is good

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[quote="AMOEBA"]don't think any1's been arguing.. you have to remember the gm's don't play the game..... telling them everythin is hunkydory and plentiful .. is more likely to end in no action being taken anyway.. if things are plentiful no prob anywhere..all is good . [/quote]
could add sd's to top mobs with a little increase in drop rate not much but a little, might solve it
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"]could add sd's to top mobs with a little increase in drop rate not much but a little, might solve it [/quote]
Not sure if it’s mentioned, as a lot to read through so was only scanning... but what about including a gem exchange. Something that suits the market price, Jades are plentiful so worth the least would the equivalent of 20 large jades for 1 sd work out?

If all gems had an exchange rate to diamonds and maybe each other... it would mean those people with stores of one type of gem could change it for something they want. Therefore increasing all gems market, I’m sure would need thought behind it, and should be worse off that peer to peer value - therefore removes the dependency on farming sds at palus/df (suggest they are removed from those mobs all together).
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[quote="AXOM"]Not sure if it’s mentioned, as a lot to read through so was only scanning... but what about including a gem exchange. Something that suits the market price, Jades are plentiful so worth the least would the equivalent of 20 large jades for 1 sd work out? If all gems had an exchange rate to diamonds and maybe each other... it would mean those people with stores of one type of gem could change it for something they want. Therefore increasing all gems market, I’m sure would need thought behind it, and should be worse off that peer to peer value - therefore removes the dependency on farming sds at palus/df (suggest they are removed from those mobs all together). [/quote]
The garden centre and supermarket scenario makes you come across as lazy and wanting things made easier or that it’s beneath you to have to travel to a certain place for what your wanting.

You’ve stated best mob for getting ct’s and ep’s is mags so I assume that’s the mob you specifically farm for these items?

Your crying about diamonds not dropping plentifully at top end mobs but they do at palus, devilfish, xeno’s, warbeast but you’re refusing to farm them for diamonds because you can’t be arsed hunting them???

So your requesting top end mobs have an increase to there drop rate, yet the diamond drop rate is the same at every mob that there on a mobs drop file.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The garden centre and supermarket scenario makes you come across as lazy and wanting things made easier or that it’s beneath you to have to travel to a certain place for what your wanting. You’ve stated best mob for getting ct’s and ep’s is mags so I assume that’s the mob you specifically farm for these items? Your crying about diamonds not dropping plentifully at top end mobs but they do at palus, devilfish, xeno’s, warbeast but you’re refusing to farm them for diamonds because you can’t be arsed hunting them??? So your requesting top end mobs have an increase to there drop rate, yet the diamond drop rate is the same at every mob that there on a mobs drop file.[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"The garden centre and supermarket scenario makes you come across as lazy and wanting things made easier or that it’s beneath you to have to travel to a certain place for what your wanting.

You’ve stated best mob for getting ct’s and ep’s is mags so I assume that’s the mob you specifically farm for these items?

Your crying about diamonds not dropping plentifully at top end mobs but they do at palus, devilfish, xeno’s, warbeast but you’re refusing to farm them for diamonds because you can’t be arsed hunting them???

So your requesting top end mobs have an increase to there drop rate, yet the diamond drop rate is the same at every mob that there on a mobs drop file.


i can farm df for days on end.. and get diamonds.. doesn't bother me... been talking about ppl with less hours to play .. maybe they would like to get more di's from their trolls or mags maybe....

every mob has the same drop rate ? well u could be right..but i dont think so..
ct's from nightmares is same as mags? doubt it
ep's same from palus as mags.. doubt it
anyway .. another example of why it's pointless talking on the forum...

made about 3-4-5 posts above that show drop rates are variable and and adjustable... do you not read them?

carry on.... players who should have more sense and recognition of the state of things... i thought u would be up there .. however ...
nvm
ps.. i take offence at being labelled as lazy.. with my hours ingame...; that's a lame insult tbh

u carry on with ur 'secret ct/ ep drops' and the rest of us will watch on in envy

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[quote="AMOEBA"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]The garden centre and supermarket scenario makes you come across as lazy and wanting things made easier or that it’s beneath you to have to travel to a certain place for what your wanting. You’ve stated best mob for getting ct’s and ep’s is mags so I assume that’s the mob you specifically farm for these items? Your crying about diamonds not dropping plentifully at top end mobs but they do at palus, devilfish, xeno’s, warbeast but you’re refusing to farm them for diamonds because you can’t be arsed hunting them??? So your requesting top end mobs have an increase to there drop rate, yet the diamond drop rate is the same at every mob that there on a mobs drop file.[/quote] i can farm df for days on end.. and get diamonds.. doesn't bother me... been talking about ppl with less hours to play .. maybe they would like to get more di's from their trolls or mags maybe.... every mob has the same drop rate ? well u could be right..but i dont think so.. ct's from nightmares is same as mags? doubt it ep's same from palus as mags.. doubt it anyway .. another example of why it's pointless talking on the forum... made about 3-4-5 posts above that show drop rates are variable and and adjustable... do you not read them? carry on.... players who should have more sense and recognition of the state of things... i thought u would be up there .. however ... nvm ps.. i take offence at being labelled as lazy.. with my hours ingame...; that's a lame insult tbh u carry on with ur 'secret ct/ ep drops' and the rest of us will watch on in envy . [/quote]
If you took offence at me typing the word lazy then I apologise but after reading your previous post that’s what it came across as in the following....

spose if u need a new rubber plant or a yucca plant you have to drive 10 miles to a garden centre coz you can't pick them up from the local supermarket... maybe the same mindset involved in diamond farming.. but

with capped players.... they might want the garden centre moving closer to home... where they can do their normal shopping with the hope of a diamond more than once a fortnight or month

You don’t fancy driving 10 mins and would like the garden centre moving closer...........
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]If you took offence at me typing the word lazy then I apologise but after reading your previous post that’s what it came across as in the following.... spose if u need a new rubber plant or a yucca plant you have to drive 10 miles to a garden centre coz you can't pick them up from the local supermarket... maybe the same mindset involved in diamond farming.. but with capped players.... they might want the garden centre moving closer to home... where they can do their normal shopping with the hope of a diamond more than once a fortnight or month You don’t fancy driving 10 mins and would like the garden centre moving closer...........[/quote]
Contrary to what was said about drops rates for items not being able to be set independently

Server Update 07/04/2019
by ISYLVER // 2019/04/07 13:21:25 // 4 comments
Magma Beast
Magma beasts now drop a new item "Bitter Supreme Helmet"

War Beast Miner
War beast miner has had their small ruby drop rate dramatically increased (hint, go for the conti ones).

Onzu
Onzu has had some new items added to his store

Minton
Mintons choker added to Mintons shop

Not that I play hsoma but seems like there should be a slight tweak for the diamonds on the high end mobs?
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[quote="NUCLEAR"]Contrary to what was said about drops rates for items not being able to be set independently Server Update 07/04/2019 by ISYLVER // 2019/04/07 13:21:25 // 4 comments Magma Beast Magma beasts now drop a new item "Bitter Supreme Helmet" War Beast Miner War beast miner has had their small ruby drop rate dramatically increased (hint, go for the conti ones). Onzu Onzu has had some new items added to his store Minton Mintons choker added to Mintons shop Not that I play hsoma but seems like there should be a slight tweak for the diamonds on the high end mobs? [/quote]
Firstly I sincerely apologise if anything I posted upset or offended anyone that was never my intention at all, I tried my best to see the request from all sides, but I couldn’t see or find any merit in requesting a specific item having a higher drop rate over all the other mobs that drop the same item.

That being said when trolls/wasp and the dsoma equivalent mobs were introduced many made the suggestion that any gems dropped should be made medium size, now we have the vafer/spiders and again the dsoma equivalent and again the same suggestion was made that any gems be made medium size.

There is merit and justification in the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both worlds hsoma and dsoma for these mobs to have there gems made to medium size, it firstly rewards players while there levelling there characters on these, secondly it will make players want to continue farming these mobs once capped and not have or force capped players into having to hunt/farm lower level mobs like blg for medium rubies in which newer players that have feck all gear having to deal with capped players with there machine gun weapons making it more difficult for them newer players being able to lure 1 or maybe 2 away before being gang mobbed.

So if anyone was to make a thread to and resuggest gems at the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both sides hsoma and dsoma be made medium size I’ll be happy to give that thread a big he’ll yeah from me.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Firstly I sincerely apologise if anything I posted upset or offended anyone that was never my intention at all, I tried my best to see the request from all sides, but I couldn’t see or find any merit in requesting a specific item having a higher drop rate over all the other mobs that drop the same item. That being said when trolls/wasp and the dsoma equivalent mobs were introduced many made the suggestion that any gems dropped should be made medium size, now we have the vafer/spiders and again the dsoma equivalent and again the same suggestion was made that any gems be made medium size. There is merit and justification in the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both worlds hsoma and dsoma for these mobs to have there gems made to medium size, it firstly rewards players while there levelling there characters on these, secondly it will make players want to continue farming these mobs once capped and not have or force capped players into having to hunt/farm lower level mobs like blg for medium rubies in which newer players that have feck all gear having to deal with capped players with there machine gun weapons making it more difficult for them newer players being able to lure 1 or maybe 2 away before being gang mobbed. So if anyone was to make a thread to and resuggest gems at the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both sides hsoma and dsoma be made medium size I’ll be happy to give that thread a big he’ll yeah from me.[/quote]
Finito has confirmed tonight in discord that mobs do have a different drop rate on items.

He’s also said he’s going to increase the SD rate at hellish trolls, vafer raps, valk shaman and also prism spiders.

Think it’s good news all round.
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[quote="TITUSES"]Finito has confirmed tonight in discord that mobs do have a different drop rate on items. He’s also said he’s going to increase the SD rate at hellish trolls, vafer raps, valk shaman and also prism spiders. Think it’s good news all round. [/quote]
Oh that’s me tyrese btw!
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[quote="TITUSES"]Oh that’s me tyrese btw![/quote]
"TITUSES"Finito has confirmed tonight in discord that mobs do have a different drop rate on items.

He’s also said he’s going to increase the SD rate at hellish trolls, vafer raps, valk shaman and also prism spiders.

Think it’s good news all round.


ye .. n1 Fin x
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[quote="AMOEBA"][quote="TITUSES"]Finito has confirmed tonight in discord that mobs do have a different drop rate on items. He’s also said he’s going to increase the SD rate at hellish trolls, vafer raps, valk shaman and also prism spiders. Think it’s good news all round. [/quote] ye .. n1 Fin x[/quote]
hasn't confirmed valks unfortunatly :/
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[quote="MEHVIYAT"]hasn't confirmed valks unfortunatly :/[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"Firstly I sincerely apologise if anything I posted upset or offended anyone that was never my intention at all, I tried my best to see the request from all sides, but I couldn’t see or find any merit in requesting a specific item having a higher drop rate over all the other mobs that drop the same item.

That being said when trolls/wasp and the dsoma equivalent mobs were introduced many made the suggestion that any gems dropped should be made medium size, now we have the vafer/spiders and again the dsoma equivalent and again the same suggestion was made that any gems be made medium size.

There is merit and justification in the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both worlds hsoma and dsoma for these mobs to have there gems made to medium size, it firstly rewards players while there levelling there characters on these, secondly it will make players want to continue farming these mobs once capped and not have or force capped players into having to hunt/farm lower level mobs like blg for medium rubies in which newer players that have feck all gear having to deal with capped players with there machine gun weapons making it more difficult for them newer players being able to lure 1 or maybe 2 away before being gang mobbed.

So if anyone was to make a thread to and resuggest gems at the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both sides hsoma and dsoma be made medium size I’ll be happy to give that thread a big he’ll yeah from me.


It's essentially the same thing as upping the drops rate by x3, just arguing for the sake of it 👏👏👏
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[quote="EVERLAST"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Firstly I sincerely apologise if anything I posted upset or offended anyone that was never my intention at all, I tried my best to see the request from all sides, but I couldn’t see or find any merit in requesting a specific item having a higher drop rate over all the other mobs that drop the same item. That being said when trolls/wasp and the dsoma equivalent mobs were introduced many made the suggestion that any gems dropped should be made medium size, now we have the vafer/spiders and again the dsoma equivalent and again the same suggestion was made that any gems be made medium size. There is merit and justification in the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both worlds hsoma and dsoma for these mobs to have there gems made to medium size, it firstly rewards players while there levelling there characters on these, secondly it will make players want to continue farming these mobs once capped and not have or force capped players into having to hunt/farm lower level mobs like blg for medium rubies in which newer players that have feck all gear having to deal with capped players with there machine gun weapons making it more difficult for them newer players being able to lure 1 or maybe 2 away before being gang mobbed. So if anyone was to make a thread to and resuggest gems at the last 2 melee/mage mobs on both sides hsoma and dsoma be made medium size I’ll be happy to give that thread a big he’ll yeah from me.[/quote] It's essentially the same thing as upping the drops rate by x3, just arguing for the sake of it 👏👏👏 [/quote]
Diamonds are only so valuable due to the effort required to obtain them.

Make them easier and the next hardest to obtain item will become the most valuable and what people will ask for in trades.

A lot of people don’t even use diamonds, they simply trade in them as they are a solid currency at the moment.

Adding all the coveted items to one mob would be bad imho, as it removes the need to trade for what you want, as people can just get everything they need from one enemy type.

Every game has items that are a pain in the butt to obtain that have a section of the community farming them.

On FF14 it’s endgame raw crafting materials that are capped on yield per day, on soma it’s diamonds and rubies.
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[quote="CHOJINE"]Diamonds are only so valuable due to the effort required to obtain them. Make them easier and the next hardest to obtain item will become the most valuable and what people will ask for in trades. A lot of people don’t even use diamonds, they simply trade in them as they are a solid currency at the moment. Adding all the coveted items to one mob would be bad imho, as it removes the need to trade for what you want, as people can just get everything they need from one enemy type. Every game has items that are a pain in the butt to obtain that have a section of the community farming them. On FF14 it’s endgame raw crafting materials that are capped on yield per day, on soma it’s diamonds and rubies.[/quote]

 

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