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take 5 deaths and to enable your free 2 hours you need to go back to town to enable it. would stop bots. and cost 125k per 2 hour hunt if people decided to be dicks and pk low lvls
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]take 5 deaths and to enable your free 2 hours you need to go back to town to enable it. would stop bots. and cost 125k per 2 hour hunt if people decided to be dicks and pk low lvls[/quote]
you require 2 deaths before your eligible to use anyform of immunity pot. and if you engage in any pvp in a weeks time you cant get any immunity. 1 hour is simply far to short. this is abused by the idiots who pk noobs to use immunity at bosses
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]you require 2 deaths before your eligible to use anyform of immunity pot. and if you engage in any pvp in a weeks time you cant get any immunity. 1 hour is simply far to short. this is abused by the idiots who pk noobs to use immunity at bosses [/quote]
5 deaths feels enough like being greifed to log off and not bother going on again, though, perhaps my bullshit meter is much smaller than general consensus.

Why not add death drops for those who have the agression debuff (forgot name) but you get 1 hour where you can't be immune. Make it so that debuff gives a low %chance at an auto-warp. Spicy play for people who like pvp. 2 death for immune pve player could seem like way less of a piss take.

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[quote="SLAPS"]5 deaths feels enough like being greifed to log off and not bother going on again, though, perhaps my bullshit meter is much smaller than general consensus. Why not add death drops for those who have the agression debuff (forgot name) but you get 1 hour where you can't be immune. Make it so that debuff gives a low %chance at an auto-warp. Spicy play for people who like pvp. 2 death for immune pve player could seem like way less of a piss take. [/quote]
with just 2 people used to bot like crazy at palus etc. 5 means its 125k for 2 hours. if your pve then taking deaths shouldnt bother you. it certainly has never bothered me. ill take as many deaths as i want/need to get a specific mob boss kill or w/e. dont have e-penis syndrome

there is already death drops for people. could perhaps make resi not work for the attacking(grey) / devil moral person so they only get penalty debuf before dropping.
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]with just 2 people used to bot like crazy at palus etc. 5 means its 125k for 2 hours. if your pve then taking deaths shouldnt bother you. it certainly has never bothered me. ill take as many deaths as i want/need to get a specific mob boss kill or w/e. dont have e-penis syndrome there is already death drops for people. could perhaps make resi not work for the attacking(grey) / devil moral person so they only get penalty debuf before dropping.[/quote]
I’m all for it
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[quote="REPO"]I’m all for it [/quote]
I think some of you have forgotten how difficult at times it is getting Barr, especially for a warrior type character from warmess/warban to shanis/blg, at times your not even breaking even.

Not everyone has an endless supply of special repairs, not everyone has other characters at there disposal to farm at the cash cows that are mags/elders, not everyone has gear.

As been mentioned taking 5 or even more deaths just to be allowed to enjoy this great game of soma, would be a form of griefing to put most casual players that have an hour or two to play.

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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I think some of you have forgotten how difficult at times it is getting Barr, especially for a warrior type character from warmess/warban to shanis/blg, at times your not even breaking even. Not everyone has an endless supply of special repairs, not everyone has other characters at there disposal to farm at the cash cows that are mags/elders, not everyone has gear. As been mentioned taking 5 or even more deaths just to be allowed to enjoy this great game of soma, would be a form of griefing to put most casual players that have an hour or two to play. [/quote]
u could spend 25k on 1 resi and 4 deaths getting penalty exp which u can get rid of pretty rapid with rates now.

having it set to low is a detriment also.

although you could have it require a return to town to activate your 2 hours immunity? maybe take 3 with that stiplulation
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]u could spend 25k on 1 resi and 4 deaths getting penalty exp which u can get rid of pretty rapid with rates now. having it set to low is a detriment also. although you could have it require a return to town to activate your 2 hours immunity? maybe take 3 with that stiplulation[/quote]
If the whole purpose of suggesting 3, 4, 5 or more deaths before being able to get immunity is to somehow to put a spanner in the botters then if players are genuine why not put it to 1 death?

If a genuine PvE player they would most likely warp after the first death in any case so then when they arrive back at town it then activates said immunity for 2 hours.

If botters where actually being punished with bans etc as there supposed to be by the gm’s in the first place we wouldn’t be constantly talking about this every week/month.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]If the whole purpose of suggesting 3, 4, 5 or more deaths before being able to get immunity is to somehow to put a spanner in the botters then if players are genuine why not put it to 1 death? If a genuine PvE player they would most likely warp after the first death in any case so then when they arrive back at town it then activates said immunity for 2 hours. If botters where actually being punished with bans etc as there supposed to be by the gm’s in the first place we wouldn’t be constantly talking about this every week/month.[/quote]
yea, unfortunately its down to reports and gm free time atm. need a go between gm/advisor that could take that burden away. dunno what happened with the applications for the role last time
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]yea, unfortunately its down to reports and gm free time atm. need a go between gm/advisor that could take that burden away. dunno what happened with the applications for the role last time[/quote]
The closing date for applicants has been and gone........

Never to be heard of since. It can’t be pleasant for gm’s to have prolly 95% of messages dealing with accusations of this and that player, he said, she said blah blah... no wonder at times we don’t see or hear from either of them at times. It must be so demoralising for both of them to see and have to deal with all the crap, especially when most of the players on here are meant to be adults.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The closing date for applicants has been and gone........ Never to be heard of since. It can’t be pleasant for gm’s to have prolly 95% of messages dealing with accusations of this and that player, he said, she said blah blah... no wonder at times we don’t see or hear from either of them at times. It must be so demoralising for both of them to see and have to deal with all the crap, especially when most of the players on here are meant to be adults.[/quote]
if there was an active presence that could go around checking players crafting restocking pvp'n etc etc. pretty sure a ton of the he said she said would disappear. its just getting someone unbiased that knows what to look for and has enough time/trust from gm's to do so. if any1 is caught they can suspend and then reported to dan for final ban duration
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]if there was an active presence that could go around checking players crafting restocking pvp'n etc etc. pretty sure a ton of the he said she said would disappear. its just getting someone unbiased that knows what to look for and has enough time/trust from gm's to do so. if any1 is caught they can suspend and then reported to dan for final ban duration[/quote]
This is the big stumbling block “trust”

I fully understand the issue surrounding trust from iSylver, he has given positions in the past and been burnt from them, so it becomes harder on him to put that trust into someone. I think I would be the same like anyone else in this situation, I think it’s also a difficult situation in that the majority of players know most players and finding someone with no ties to this or that side etc so this could be why we haven’t heard anymore on the application of this role.

This server has been going over 8 years now so between iSylver and Finito there doing something right otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted this long. So in a sense why would they need anyone else? Like you’ve mentioned, to take some of the burden from them which might just allow them to spend the free time they might get to do what they do best spend it on improving soma. We can sit hear day after day discussion this but it’s down to iSylver and Finito I’m just glad I’m not in there shoes making decisions, I’ll carry on just enjoying soma for what it is to me and keep putting suggestions forward from time to time.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]This is the big stumbling block “trust” I fully understand the issue surrounding trust from iSylver, he has given positions in the past and been burnt from them, so it becomes harder on him to put that trust into someone. I think I would be the same like anyone else in this situation, I think it’s also a difficult situation in that the majority of players know most players and finding someone with no ties to this or that side etc so this could be why we haven’t heard anymore on the application of this role. This server has been going over 8 years now so between iSylver and Finito there doing something right otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted this long. So in a sense why would they need anyone else? Like you’ve mentioned, to take some of the burden from them which might just allow them to spend the free time they might get to do what they do best spend it on improving soma. We can sit hear day after day discussion this but it’s down to iSylver and Finito I’m just glad I’m not in there shoes making decisions, I’ll carry on just enjoying soma for what it is to me and keep putting suggestions forward from time to time.[/quote]
It would have to be a non-player.

Not an ex-player. Not a friend of a player or ex-player. Not anyone who knows folk in the game.

It "could" be a real life friend of iSylver or Finito ... BUT ... why should they?

Pretty damn tricky problem to solve.

Finito has created anti-cheating patches and folk just find new ways to cheat/bot. If I was Finito I would be seriously pissed off about that. Who cops for all that shit ... iSylver does. I would also be seriously pissed off about that too.

The solution to this continuing problem can only be found from their perspective, not ours.

We need to change our glasses for a different tint ...

Jac/Prowler
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[quote="PROWLER"]It would have to be a non-player. Not an ex-player. Not a friend of a player or ex-player. Not anyone who knows folk in the game. It "could" be a real life friend of iSylver or Finito ... BUT ... why should they? Pretty damn tricky problem to solve. Finito has created anti-cheating patches and folk just find new ways to cheat/bot. If I was Finito I would be seriously pissed off about that. Who cops for all that shit ... iSylver does. I would also be seriously pissed off about that too. The solution to this continuing problem can only be found from their perspective, not ours. We need to change our glasses for a different tint ... Jac/Prowler[/quote]
wouldnt matter if its an existing player tbh, no1 would know who it is. and all decisions RE susp goto isylver for finalised durations etc anyway so nothing that would be abused. and if anything is found to be willynilly / for nothing then that player would stop being there help
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]wouldnt matter if its an existing player tbh, no1 would know who it is. and all decisions RE susp goto isylver for finalised durations etc anyway so nothing that would be abused. and if anything is found to be willynilly / for nothing then that player would stop being there help[/quote]
Please let’s get it sorted let’s all say to gms
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[quote="KNIGHTZ"]Please let’s get it sorted let’s all say to gms [/quote]

 

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