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lol put the number on here!!!!
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[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]lol put the number on here!!!![/quote]
Really, some of you just keep on at the same thing.

It is not a business, its just a free service.

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A coffee shop has a nice chair in it, and person A is currently occupying it, but of course does not own it.

Person B says he'll pay person A £300 to sit in that chair.

Person A takes the £300 to let person B sit in the chair (which didn't belong to either of them in the first place).

Person B goes to the toilet, and person A sits back in the chair but doesn't give the money back.

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Why the F__K would the coffee shop be to blame?



Seriously, you guys...
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Really, some of you just keep on at the same thing. It is not a business, its just a free service. ---------- A coffee shop has a nice chair in it, and person A is currently occupying it, but of course does not own it. Person B says he'll pay person A £300 to sit in that chair. Person A takes the £300 to let person B sit in the chair (which didn't belong to either of them in the first place). Person B goes to the toilet, and person A sits back in the chair but doesn't give the money back. ---------- Why the F__K would the coffee shop be to blame? Seriously, you guys...[/quote]
"ICEBLUE"

i dont no why you keep bring up the (2partys)


Because they are the only ones involved? (Not to discount the additional efforts required because of them).
The two parties (The individual who offered the toon for sale and the individual who offered payment in exchange).
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[quote="ARRIS"][quote="ICEBLUE"] i dont no why you keep bring up the (2partys) [/quote] Because they are the only ones involved? (Not to discount the additional efforts required because of them). The two parties (The individual who offered the toon for sale and the individual who offered payment in exchange). [/quote]
Funny thing is this could have all been avoided if people simply played their own characters, it's really that simple.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]Funny thing is this could have all been avoided if people simply played their own characters, it's really that simple. [/quote]
True but not as funny

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[quote="IPHIOS"]True but not as funny :([/quote]
Lol at that example. Nice try but no, just no -.-
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[quote="SPACKER"]Lol at that example. Nice try but no, just no -.-[/quote]
"CARNAGE"Funny thing is this could have all been avoided if people simply played their own characters, it's really that simple.


I'm not sure about that... At least one of them seems a bit unstable what with attacking the server and all. If that is what has occurred.
They'd have gotten pk'd, caught botting or drop something on dc> Blow it way out of proportion and ddos the provider.
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[quote="ARRIS"][quote="CARNAGE"]Funny thing is this could have all been avoided if people simply played their own characters, it's really that simple. [/quote] I'm not sure about that... At least one of them seems a bit unstable what with attacking the server and all. If that is what has occurred. They'd have gotten pk'd, caught botting or drop something on dc> Blow it way out of proportion and ddos the provider.[/quote]
"URMUM"It's setting a bad example, he's pretty much saying feel free to sell your character and then scam people and take it back .

How can selling your account not be a violation on this server but it's an instant perm ban on EVERY other mmo.

We have to punish those who deserve it regardless of repercussions it's damaging to the server. I don't even know the guys involved but I feel his pain. I'm just losing faith and it's a shame it's things like this that kills games. Especially when the community sees it going unpunished.

But whatever the big man had spoken.

Everyone's lost out, community hasn't been able to play it's caused everyone grief including dan and Charles and probably even had to spend money. Yet Zyzz is running around ingame laughing with money in his pocket




I'm not good at English. You are talking about the zyzz sell their account and then back to account? So shameless behavior
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[quote="PERFECT"][quote="URMUM"]It's setting a bad example, he's pretty much saying feel free to sell your character and then scam people and take it back . How can selling your account not be a violation on this server but it's an instant perm ban on EVERY other mmo. We have to punish those who deserve it regardless of repercussions it's damaging to the server. I don't even know the guys involved but I feel his pain. I'm just losing faith and it's a shame it's things like this that kills games. Especially when the community sees it going unpunished. But whatever the big man had spoken. Everyone's lost out, community hasn't been able to play it's caused everyone grief including dan and Charles and probably even had to spend money. Yet Zyzz is running around ingame laughing with money in his pocket[/quote] I'm not good at English. You are talking about the zyzz sell their account and then back to account? So shameless behavior[/quote]
"KAIDONE"As far as morals go URMUM is right its a dick move from the orig zyzz and he will gain no respect for having the char he has, same as half of the server that have payed to win, but that's cool nobody needs nor wants respect in this game they just wanna be "the best" at the end of the day the fellow who bought zyzz if its even his fault this whole things started is stupid and deserves to have the char taken off of him, I mean seriously if he'd spent that much money on his own char he wouldn't be that far behind zyzz rofl.
I don't think zyzz should be banned I think the guy who bought him should be made an example of what happens when you spend money on a game where you shouldn't be.



Things have happened. You shouldn't say that. Your words will fan the flames of a liar!
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[quote="PERFECT"][quote="KAIDONE"]As far as morals go URMUM is right its a dick move from the orig zyzz and he will gain no respect for having the char he has, same as half of the server that have payed to win, but that's cool nobody needs nor wants respect in this game they just wanna be "the best" at the end of the day the fellow who bought zyzz if its even his fault this whole things started is stupid and deserves to have the char taken off of him, I mean seriously if he'd spent that much money on his own char he wouldn't be that far behind zyzz rofl. I don't think zyzz should be banned I think the guy who bought him should be made an example of what happens when you spend money on a game where you shouldn't be.[/quote] Things have happened. You shouldn't say that. Your words will fan the flames of a liar![/quote]
"KNUTSEL"its actually a verbal contract which is between two parties there has been money which has changed hands which can be proved so the real zyzz has actually commited theft once he agreed to the sale off his character and money exchanged hands it no longer becomes his property.....



you are right !
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[quote="PERFECT"][quote="KNUTSEL"]its actually a verbal contract which is between two parties there has been money which has changed hands which can be proved so the real zyzz has actually commited theft once he agreed to the sale off his character and money exchanged hands it no longer becomes his property.....[/quote] you are right ![/quote]
"CARNAGE"It's not exactly rocket science here, just don't buy a damn account and you'll be in good standing, your wallet will thank you and you won't look like a complete mug at the same time, win win situation.



But he has now been bought, what should I do?
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[quote="PERFECT"][quote="CARNAGE"]It's not exactly rocket science here, just don't buy a damn account and you'll be in good standing, your wallet will thank you and you won't look like a complete mug at the same time, win win situation. [/quote] But he has now been bought, what should I do?[/quote]
I just think it does not involve the server and the gm! These things have happened, of course. How to solve? Deal you can offer favorable evidence on both sides. Trading when additional information such as paypal. Will you describe your is what to buy and payment? If you can't provide favorable evidence. Should be from any luck!!!!!!!!!!! Why?? No why!!!!! It's free server!!!!!!!!!!! Gm can only improve the server and the game environment, let us better games. Happen there is no need to impose to gm!! Even destroy server??
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[quote="PERFECT"]I just think it does not involve the server and the gm! These things have happened, of course. How to solve? Deal you can offer favorable evidence on both sides. Trading when additional information such as paypal. Will you describe your is what to buy and payment? If you can't provide favorable evidence. Should be from any luck!!!!!!!!!!! Why?? No why!!!!! It's free server!!!!!!!!!!! Gm can only improve the server and the game environment, let us better games. Happen there is no need to impose to gm!! Even destroy server??[/quote]
perfectly described. plus 1
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[quote="DEWDROP"]perfectly described. plus 1[/quote]
"LINNYI"This is just like esoma all over again didn't Foxtrick (foxtrck) sell his char for cash not once but several times? and each time he claimed it back due to the fact that he had the registered email. Im sorry to say this but come on guys what have you lost a few days of sitting behind a keyboard clicking? theres more important things in the world than Soma, you cant go back and change whats happened so just keep looking forward.:)


I think what Linny1 said makes perfect sense:

if the act of selling your character for cash is not frowned upon, then there has to be a way to ensure that the sale is irrevocable.

place a clause which states that in order to sell a character the admins have to be informed to change the registered email address.

once that is done, the original owner no longer has any claim over the character.

right guys?
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[quote="AYMANOV"][quote="LINNYI"]This is just like esoma all over again didn't Foxtrick (foxtrck) sell his char for cash not once but several times? and each time he claimed it back due to the fact that he had the registered email. Im sorry to say this but come on guys what have you lost a few days of sitting behind a keyboard clicking? theres more important things in the world than Soma, you cant go back and change whats happened so just keep looking forward.:)[/quote] I think what Linny1 said makes perfect sense: if the act of selling your character for cash is not frowned upon, then there has to be a way to ensure that the sale is irrevocable. place a clause which states that in order to sell a character the admins have to be informed to change the registered email address. once that is done, the original owner no longer has any claim over the character. right guys?[/quote]
We've updated the Ts & Cs to quantify this and date stamped it
11. Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.

SomaDev does not recognize the transfer of The Myth of Soma Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with any Account. SomaDev does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.


This will hopefully stop people continuing with this in the future. By logging into the game or site you now consent to the updated Ts & Cs.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][b]We've updated the Ts & Cs to quantify this and date stamped it[/b] 11. Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items. SomaDev does not recognize the transfer of The Myth of Soma Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with any Account. SomaDev does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game. This will hopefully stop people continuing with this in the future. By logging into the game or site you now consent to the updated Ts & Cs. [/quote]

 

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