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[quote="S0RCERER"]Should we wait for you to finish so you can come join us at bosses?[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Great why don't you take it off topic even more. Bored of you bored of replying, not sure if you're trolling or utterly retarded (and I'm sorry if that's the case) [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]Not taking anything off topic. You principal argument is that bosses die before you get there. We've established you are never prepared for when bosses spawn and if you took any longer to actually get to said bosses, you'd be moving backwards. I've asked if in future you want us to wait for you... Special treatment seeing as you're a bit special.[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Still waiting for meal so I'll give you one last reply. To try and come to common ground on what I'm asking for. Instead of reacting like a rape victim. You are looking at it from mr prepared, ready 10 minutes before any boss spawns. I'm looking at it from a red shout from guard, needing repairs and pots and other shit. (You shouldn't have to be there and set your whole life ready, if you do, they die too fast) Scenario: I'm deeply fascinated by a documentary on TV about squirrels while killing a WBM, I may be not looking for anywhere upwards of a minute. I see message, think ok cool I'll finish this WBM, tp to pande, go repair, go buy pots, use portal to hwan and run the 2 minutes from one end to other. Time invested from boss spawning to me getting there? About 6 minutes. You are very accusative of my selection of timers, when so far every single thing I have said has been fair and true. You can ask cobra/slayer about the 3 hour boss kill. It's a true fact. You can do a dummy run from low pots and dura to town to repair then run to dio and time it... You'll notice all my timings are true, why the fuck else would I document them so precisely. Your response is 'YOU SHOULD BE READY' my response is 'THEY SHOULD BE ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO BE HUNTING, GO TOWN, REPAIR, POT UP, RUN TO BOSS' This is why you're saying one thing me another. MY POST <--- I wrote it, is to ask for bosses to be alive longer, mages kill them too fast. Now if you can really argue back to this then you must be a moron lol.[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]All in all, you're summarising exactly what I pointed out. You take an age to get to the bosses, whereas Laz and I are proactive and actually waiting for them to spawn. We are ready for each boss spawn and exactly like Hsoma and most people interested in boss kills, keep track of the timers. This doesn't take any effort on our part, we're used to it, having done it for the last several months. You're asking for bosses to be buffed to allow you, an individual who is ill-prepared, to have a chance at the end game bosses, designed for end game characters. You might have noticed by now that most of our active Coven members are capped characters. We have very little to do ingame aside farming and boss kills, we're always ready for bosses. Like any game, you put the time in, you plan, you get the reward. You seem to want things to be catered towards you because you want to play casually, give the game half of your attention and still get the pay off. This is Myth of Soma, not My Little Pony.[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Hsoma are forced too due to massive population, You and Laz logging half of coven between you isn't quite the same. Maybe I'm stuck in between myth of soma, 'real normal life' and my little pony. Who's winning? Stop defending your retardation and just admit that bosses shouldn't be killed in minutes lol [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]So Hsoma is justified in timing bosses, but Dsoma shouldn't do it because we've a low pop? You keep mentioning that we log half of Coven... We ARE half of Coven. Why should what you want to do ingame influence how others play the game? You make the concious decision to give the game half of your attention, you have only yourself to blame.[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]It's not isolated to my own opinion. I could tell you at least 10 70+ players who have messages saying what a pretentious burk you're being. Soma will never prosper on the mugs with no life, over monopolisation drives core player base away which is usually not endgame. What happens is you're left with a group of no lifers who have to resort to pk, and other things just to feel like their time investment is paying off. youd be surprised that even 2-3 of your own guild complain they never get kills because bosses are dead before they get there as they're not board and thus can't trace. 2 nerds with access to powerful accounts shouldn't be enough to prevent normal levelling players reaching a boss. I don't understand how you can even argue this [/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]One last reply, repies twice after ....[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Put your spoon away basil you botting nutter[/quote]

[quote="GANDALF"]i read the first page got bored n read the last 2 pages but it was genuinely the same thing still being said.... firstly DL dont keep boss timer spawns anymore or have ever? if so i'm out the loop (we used to years back in EQ) personal opinion most bosses (Pammy, soul bosses, shiro, Garg warrior, tiresias )basically the ones with decent loot die far to fast if you don't have trace then your not making it to any of them (I've been @ hoarde vod and not been able to run to tir before the guild with trace has killed) Prime example BA just spawned conti because someone was on conti we traced in an killed before anyone else had time to warp an run to it (doesn't seem the best way forward for the game) like the weeks no mercy have trace i don't even attempt to run to bosses as i know they'll be dead long before i get there and i'm sure members of NM think the same? i would love to see more of these mobs get a boost ( i don't want them at shak level) but i'd like to see bosses take a fair beating before going down which currently isn't happening. i can see where neo is coming from on the kill speed as you cant keep a timer (like 10% either side chance? ) so for a boss with 80+ hour respawn 10% either side is a long time to be sat waiting for it to spawn. i can see where Neo is coming from with this thread i just think the way you've gone about it with the thread could of been done differently. likewise sorc makes several valid points about being organised as a capped char waiting to trace in (but not everyone can sit there for hours waiting for it to spawn) i totally agree that Coven is more organised gets there an kills quickly i just think bosses should be stronger to reflect how characters these days are becoming stronger than ever an how easily it is to multi box capped chars at such bosses :) to summarise you BOTH have some valid points, i think the problem isn't that laz n sorc are to OP or that other people are to un organised, its that bosses HP / stats don't reflect the rewards they give. /gand[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]Pretentious? I'm not acting important. I'm disagreeing with your argument, one that you directed at myself and Lazarus. Please refrain from using words to which you know not how to apply. If you're referring to Xaruthar and Jaheira, they haven't once complained about us getting the boss kills before they get there, whenever anyone in Coven requests a place on the board, they are given it without question. (Exception is that I'm already at the boss before they ask for trace). Bemused that you think I have no life, yet who's the grown adult arguing over a computer game while eating Chinese at a restaurant? If we did PK, it wouldn't be "resorting". You'd really have a reason to complain if we did. We've not ever stopped anyone from reaching a boss, most of the time we do get the kills... Because we're capped players competing with mid level characters who've invested less than half the time we have. Gladiator3 was at Scorp earlier, he didn't get the kill because Gene is capped. You were at Akah earlier today with Carnage, you didn't get the kill because you're not capped. Didn't we already establish this game rewards time invested? Gand I do agree, trace is a massive advantage - this isn't really relevant to any boss aside Shironim, to which he could just head to before it spawns, just like we used to when we weren't holders of GV. P.S. DL does keep timers.[/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]Big wooden spoon lollol...[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Never once complained about being od'd. Not once. Complained I can't get there before it dies. Wonder why you constantly take things off topic to justify flawed statements lol. You're making out I'm moaning like a bitch about not getting loot, not true. I'm writing this topic to get shit changed before I get near cap and have a chance of loot, my logic is thus: If I can't run there NOW before its dead I still won't get there at cap before its dead. Wait until I'm capped and you start moaning like a little slag that 2nd is OP. [/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Neo give it a rest ¬¬ If bosses took any longer to kill then they would actually need their loot to be increased to make it worth while. I don't know why you bring laz into it calling him a nerd, that's not going to help anyone's situation. What did he do to you? I'd also like to know how much you know about us in Coven, who logs who etc? I'm not saying we don't have access etc but how much do you actually know or is it hearsay? There's no need for spite just because you can't make the argument clear or realistic.[/quote]