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Dsoma Mages & MAIN Bosses kill speed is out of control.

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600att does not mean 600dmg
400ma does not mean 400dmg

Please learn basic soma.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]600att does not mean 600dmg 400ma does not mean 400dmg Please learn basic soma.[/quote]
why are you still hoping to have a eureka moment in this thread?

even if you're hitting 50 dmg after defence it's still 50 dmg every 2 secs

if melee is hitting 150 after defence, its 150 dmg every... god, how often does gene hit 300 dex? lmao. answer it yourself.

using genefuser's attack as an example is also pretty silly. knux, bow, even sword are considerably lower.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]why are you still hoping to have a eureka moment in this thread? even if you're hitting 50 dmg after defence it's still 50 dmg every 2 secs if melee is hitting 150 after defence, its 150 dmg every... god, how often does gene hit 300 dex? lmao. answer it yourself. using genefuser's attack as an example is also pretty silly. knux, bow, even sword are considerably lower. [/quote]
"NEOXIAN"using genefuser's attack as an example is also pretty silly. knux, bow, even sword are considerably lower.


Next you'll be saying "Bosses die too quick to Axers" will you?

I've seen all I needed to see to understand why you blabber on about bosses being so hard for melee, you don't actually fight them.

All you do is kite them using 2nd aura expecting nobody to turn up for the 12 hours it'll take you to kill.

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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="NEOXIAN"]using genefuser's attack as an example is also pretty silly. knux, bow, even sword are considerably lower. [/quote] Next you'll be saying "Bosses die too quick to Axers" will you? I've seen all I needed to see to understand why you blabber on about bosses being so hard for melee, you don't actually fight them. All you do is kite them using 2nd aura expecting nobody to turn up for the 12 hours it'll take you to kill. [/quote]
ill leave this thread alone for a while, I can see there's more people than me it bothers, and hopefully this will be something dan or finito can address sometime.

here's your moment to argue with yourself sorc, I have a gut feeling its something you nurse as a personal flaw outside of this game :/

its bed time, go log off for once.

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[quote="NEOXIAN"]ill leave this thread alone for a while, I can see there's more people than me it bothers, and hopefully this will be something dan or finito can address sometime. here's your moment to argue with yourself sorc, I have a gut feeling its something you nurse as a personal flaw outside of this game :/ its bed time, go log off for once. [/quote]
sorcerer once again proves his one dimensional logic haha.

I was kiting lifeless troll with 2nd to remove zombie, but of course witnessing me for 2 minutes at one particular boss is reason to assume it's the same for all. great logic, you must be some kind of professor.

gogogo argue with your own logic now.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]sorcerer once again proves his one dimensional logic haha. I was kiting lifeless troll with 2nd to remove zombie, but of course witnessing me for 2 minutes at one particular boss is reason to assume it's the same for all. great logic, you must be some kind of professor. gogogo argue with your own logic now.[/quote]
Weren't you leaving this thread alone for a while? Go figure.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Weren't you leaving this thread alone for a while? Go figure.[/quote]
its impossible to resist the compulsion to reply when it's such a ridiculous sentence.

like I said, 100 times already.

I could kite it with 2nd, I could bow it down, I could punch it, I could do anything I want. MY POINT IS, most bosses are dead before I can even get to them, not about how much damage I do.

my point for insane pamoth (if you care to go back and read, because I think you're struggling with this basic skill) was that while you were in the country logging your characters still, insane pamoth was the only boss I had the opportunity to meet.

want me to say one more time?

tire,

dio

shiro

these bosses die before u can get there.

simple.

this is like arguing with a ham sandwhich, no reasonable reason why I should continue its absolute rubbish coming out of your grey head sir.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]its impossible to resist the compulsion to reply when it's such a ridiculous sentence. like I said, 100 times already. I could kite it with 2nd, I could bow it down, I could punch it, I could do anything I want. MY POINT IS, most bosses are dead before I can even get to them, not about how much damage I do. my point for insane pamoth (if you care to go back and read, because I think you're struggling with this basic skill) was that while you were in the country logging your characters still, insane pamoth was the only boss I had the opportunity to meet. want me to say one more time? tire, dio shiro these bosses die before u can get there. simple. this is like arguing with a ham sandwhich, no reasonable reason why I should continue its absolute rubbish coming out of your grey head sir.[/quote]
That was a long while. Go back to kiting bosses.

Didn't you kill Saurus the Great earlier today? How long did that take?

And didn't you reach Troll before anyone else did? Ah yes.

It takes less than 6 minutes to run to south Hwan (going by your own time)
It takes less than 4 minutes to run to northeast IC (going by your own time)
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[quote="S0RCERER"]That was a long while. Go back to kiting bosses. Didn't you kill Saurus the Great earlier today? How long did that take? And didn't you reach Troll before anyone else did? Ah yes. It takes less than 6 minutes to run to south Hwan (going by your own time) It takes less than 4 minutes to run to northeast IC (going by your own time)[/quote]
This thread is amazing.
Was this not a problem at the start of the server when sinister was the "top dog" guild to be in with all the heavy hitters?

It has only been recently (in the server time scale) that coven has really flourished and become the most powerful guild in Dsoma...

I was in sinister at the start and its prime (not on this char) also when coven and sinister merged to create the dsoma power it was. I left and joined coven when it was just evil_jr keeping the guild alive (i used to tank ABS for him) and stayed through its rise to power.

Every guild has its day, it just seems you're a tad bitter about your glory days being behind you (neo)
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[quote="STRIKE"]This thread is amazing. Was this not a problem at the start of the server when sinister was the "top dog" guild to be in with all the heavy hitters? It has only been recently (in the server time scale) that coven has really flourished and become the most powerful guild in Dsoma... I was in sinister at the start and its prime (not on this char) also when coven and sinister merged to create the dsoma power it was. I left and joined coven when it was just evil_jr keeping the guild alive (i used to tank ABS for him) and stayed through its rise to power. Every guild has its day, it just seems you're a tad bitter about your glory days being behind you (neo)[/quote]
The problem is s0rc has a reasonable standard of knowledge and can string a half decent sentence together,
which is possibly is the reason he has so many people up his arse.
I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere somebody calling him an overlord of soma rofl.
Anyway back on subject Neoxian is right and about 90% of non-coven members agree just don't want to pipe up purely to keep the peace, when monopolization was happening on hsoma was happening alot was done in terms of preventing it ect.
with dsoma coven are doing exactly the same thing as was going on in hsoma or worse no one could even remotely compete or attempt to lvl up because you guys are stupidly over geared to the point of no one will ever have a chance 1st efukt then coven made the end of any competition in Dsoma.
Ok some have fun PvE others much prefer PvP (vast majority), why do you think stones waga ect are non exsistant it was like 5 vs 30+2nd guilds ect.
Fair play neo for saying what the majority of non-coven think and many guys will understand your pain of going through shitstorms of long ass words and sentences from nerdy s0rc and bfs.
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[quote="JJ"]The problem is s0rc has a reasonable standard of knowledge and can string a half decent sentence together, which is possibly is the reason he has so many people up his arse. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere somebody calling him an overlord of soma rofl. Anyway back on subject Neoxian is right and about 90% of non-coven members agree just don't want to pipe up purely to keep the peace, when monopolization was happening on hsoma was happening alot was done in terms of preventing it ect. with dsoma coven are doing exactly the same thing as was going on in hsoma or worse no one could even remotely compete or attempt to lvl up because you guys are stupidly over geared to the point of no one will ever have a chance 1st efukt then coven made the end of any competition in Dsoma. Ok some have fun PvE others much prefer PvP (vast majority), why do you think stones waga ect are non exsistant it was like 5 vs 30+2nd guilds ect. Fair play neo for saying what the majority of non-coven think and many guys will understand your pain of going through shitstorms of long ass words and sentences from nerdy s0rc and bfs.[/quote]
"JJ"The problem is s0rc has a reasonable standard of knowledge and can string a half decent sentence together,
which is possibly is the reason he has so many people up his arse.
I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere somebody calling him an overlord of soma rofl.
Anyway back on subject Neoxian is right and about 90% of non-coven members agree just don't want to pipe up purely to keep the peace, when monopolization was happening on hsoma was happening alot was done in terms of preventing it ect.
with dsoma coven are doing exactly the same thing as was going on in hsoma or worse no one could even remotely compete or attempt to lvl up because you guys are stupidly over geared to the point of no one will ever have a chance 1st efukt then coven made the end of any competition in Dsoma.
Ok some have fun PvE others much prefer PvP (vast majority), why do you think stones waga ect are non exsistant it was like 5 vs 30+2nd guilds ect.
Fair play neo for saying what the majority of non-coven think and many guys will understand your pain of going through shitstorms of long ass words and sentences from nerdy s0rc and bfs.


dont want to be that guy, but why not post off your main? for all anyone knows you could be neoxian agreeing with his own post.
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[quote="STRIKE"][quote="JJ"]The problem is s0rc has a reasonable standard of knowledge and can string a half decent sentence together, which is possibly is the reason he has so many people up his arse. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere somebody calling him an overlord of soma rofl. Anyway back on subject Neoxian is right and about 90% of non-coven members agree just don't want to pipe up purely to keep the peace, when monopolization was happening on hsoma was happening alot was done in terms of preventing it ect. with dsoma coven are doing exactly the same thing as was going on in hsoma or worse no one could even remotely compete or attempt to lvl up because you guys are stupidly over geared to the point of no one will ever have a chance 1st efukt then coven made the end of any competition in Dsoma. Ok some have fun PvE others much prefer PvP (vast majority), why do you think stones waga ect are non exsistant it was like 5 vs 30+2nd guilds ect. Fair play neo for saying what the majority of non-coven think and many guys will understand your pain of going through shitstorms of long ass words and sentences from nerdy s0rc and bfs.[/quote] dont want to be that guy, but why not post off your main? for all anyone knows you could be neoxian agreeing with his own post. [/quote]
Rofl at trying to act like we pk people off bosses etc, in fact you're lucky we don't because then you'd really have something to complain about. For the most part as long as you're not a complete prick any non coven is left alone at bosses.

How old is soma? Like 15 years? Rofl if by now you still don't understand soma is nothing but numbers/luck and time related game I don't know what to tell you. "Stupidly over geared" can't even begin to express how retarded that sounds, as in any game those that play longer have better stuff that is simply common sense.

So bosses hp gets increased that's fine, guess what we're still most likely going to continue getting the majority of drops simply because there are more of us, and the apparent 3 hours for insane pamoth is now 6 hours when we aren't online to help, gg enjoy.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]Rofl at trying to act like we pk people off bosses etc, in fact you're lucky we don't because then you'd really have something to complain about. For the most part as long as you're not a complete prick any non coven is left alone at bosses. How old is soma? Like 15 years? Rofl if by now you still don't understand soma is nothing but numbers/luck and time related game I don't know what to tell you. "Stupidly over geared" can't even begin to express how retarded that sounds, as in any game those that play longer have better stuff that is simply common sense. So bosses hp gets increased that's fine, guess what we're still most likely going to continue getting the majority of drops simply because there are more of us, and the apparent 3 hours for insane pamoth is now 6 hours when we aren't online to help, gg enjoy. [/quote]
Contrary to what s0rc says then most if not all bosses would still be alive for anyone to run to, after a REASONABLE time period if the mages weren't present. This is a fact and was clearly evident tonight as well.

Genefuser can't hit the bosses mentioned consistently enough to down them so fast due to defensive dex, JR/patho don't kill high dex bosses very fast either. Does this mean I'd get loot over them? most likely not. Does this mean I deserve to get loot over them with their time investment? not really, no. Does this mean I should get a fair and equal chance to get there to the boss before it died without having to be pot ready to the millisecond should I so chose to? yes I think I should.

In the past archer dominance was spread across multiple guilds, and it was always possible to get a last hit over an archer anyway even a capped or nearly capped one. I'm not interested in blaming a whole guild, because even people like Xaru say they don't get a look in on boss kills and they're in coven. It's purely a problem that the bosses are dying too fast. I'm really not fussed about vatikans bought accounts either, I've only mentioned wag and slayer and although slay isn't original it's still limited to one regular user.

I'll say it once again, and only once more because this thread has been ruined by sorc's illiteracy already.

I'm not asking to be able to kill these bosses directly, I don't quite have the damage output yet. What I'm asking for is the ability to get to the boss before it is dead, and maybe also get a friend online to come and help.

I honestly expected pammy to have around 300-350 def and allowed for 90 minutes of me and slay smashing it, didn't expect to be doing 1 damage and it be alive 3 hours later. he's been added to the "impossible until 90+" pile anyways. this pammy incident is not relevant to the core content of my issue though and should really be dropped now lol.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Contrary to what s0rc says then most if not all bosses would still be alive for anyone to run to, after a REASONABLE time period if the mages weren't present. This is a fact and was clearly evident tonight as well. Genefuser can't hit the bosses mentioned consistently enough to down them so fast due to defensive dex, JR/patho don't kill high dex bosses very fast either. Does this mean I'd get loot over them? most likely not. Does this mean I deserve to get loot over them with their time investment? not really, no. Does this mean I should get a fair and equal chance to get there to the boss before it died without having to be pot ready to the millisecond should I so chose to? yes I think I should. In the past archer dominance was spread across multiple guilds, and it was always possible to get a last hit over an archer anyway even a capped or nearly capped one. I'm not interested in blaming a whole guild, because even people like Xaru say they don't get a look in on boss kills and they're in coven. It's purely a problem that the bosses are dying too fast. I'm really not fussed about vatikans bought accounts either, I've only mentioned wag and slayer and although slay isn't original it's still limited to one regular user. I'll say it once again, and only once more because this thread has been ruined by sorc's illiteracy already. I'm not asking to be able to kill these bosses directly, I don't quite have the damage output yet. What I'm asking for is the ability to get to the boss before it is dead, and maybe also get a friend online to come and help. I honestly expected pammy to have around 300-350 def and allowed for 90 minutes of me and slay smashing it, didn't expect to be doing 1 damage and it be alive 3 hours later. he's been added to the "impossible until 90+" pile anyways. this pammy incident is not relevant to the core content of my issue though and should really be dropped now lol.[/quote]
Could you imagine say, Linnyi on Hsoma complaining about No Mercy / Dark Legacy getting all the boss kills as this is how you sound.

Excuse me Sorc lol I don't complain about anyone winning gvw or killing bosses as I choose not to even attempt to go to these things lol, so he cant sound like me can he? I don't know whether being mentioned in your comment is a compliment or an insult, however I play this game for fun and play my char the way I want to play it and if that means standing chatting at the wh then so be it.

Have a lovely day :)


p.s I wanted to come play dsoma lol who knows one day I might hehe
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[quote="LINNYI"]Could you imagine say, Linnyi on Hsoma complaining about No Mercy / Dark Legacy getting all the boss kills as this is how you sound. Excuse me Sorc lol I don't complain about anyone winning gvw or killing bosses as I choose not to even attempt to go to these things lol, so he cant sound like me can he? I don't know whether being mentioned in your comment is a compliment or an insult, however I play this game for fun and play my char the way I want to play it and if that means standing chatting at the wh then so be it. Have a lovely day :) p.s I wanted to come play dsoma lol who knows one day I might hehe[/quote]
Not intended as an insult at all linnyi :)

Hence the "could you imagine"
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Not intended as an insult at all linnyi :) Hence the "could you imagine"[/quote]

 

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