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Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples.

Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples. Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.[/quote]
Path your English skills are great but your common sense has perished.
Anyway we all know fuck all will be done to address this problem, BRB going to feather spam whilst hurting nobody.
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[quote="HANSO"]Path your English skills are great but your common sense has perished. Anyway we all know fuck all will be done to address this problem, BRB going to feather spam whilst hurting nobody.[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples.

Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.


so its a gear problem lulz
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[quote="LAG"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples. Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.[/quote] so its a gear problem lulz[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples.

Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.


If it's an axer problem why would he not be mentioned he's an axer, or is this just another gear issue.
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[quote="NUCLEAR"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Think this was raised aggressively by evil_wheresmyrdtgone_jr multiple times using genefuser and Kekket as examples. Basil wasn't even in the same league as a freshly capped axed with essentially stock gear no upgrades. No reason to bring him into it except for trolling.[/quote] If it's an axer problem why would he not be mentioned he's an axer, or is this just another gear issue. [/quote]
Basil was the wankest axer capped.

I have a idea put con to how it was, and take away 40dex away from archers 20away from knuck/sword 5away from spear.



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[quote="MARMMOLE"]Basil was the wankest axer capped. I have a idea put con to how it was, and take away 40dex away from archers 20away from knuck/sword 5away from spear. [/quote]
Add dmg to dex class weps or release a new wep for them?
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[quote="NARSTIE"]Add dmg to dex class weps or release a new wep for them?[/quote]
Weird how time changes things. A few months ago, Devs were talking about the hate and vitriol on the human side.
Humans are all love an peace now.
Join the good side..

Devs are inherently bad ppl ;p
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[quote="WEPPERZ"]Weird how time changes things. A few months ago, Devs were talking about the hate and vitriol on the human side. Humans are all love an peace now. Join the good side.. Devs are inherently bad ppl ;p[/quote]
archers lost defence with str being there defence. those who used a bow without punching missed out on any dex to be gained after 200. although i think there is a damage boost for dex class's already in the works?? i.e. a higher wep damage skill bonus for dex class's

unsure on whether changing back would help but axer's gained like 60 def archers lost defence. doesnt seem right. must be some middle ground somewhere
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[quote="SPACKER"]archers lost defence with str being there defence. those who used a bow without punching missed out on any dex to be gained after 200. although i think there is a damage boost for dex class's already in the works?? i.e. a higher wep damage skill bonus for dex class's unsure on whether changing back would help but axer's gained like 60 def archers lost defence. doesnt seem right. must be some middle ground somewhere[/quote]
Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great (bare in mind that before this change archers had the highest def with highest dex, which isn't right. )

However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer

Maybe small tweaks to look at

2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo

2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma

Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon

Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 handed classes, archers could get arrows with bonus attack

Oversly if cap is removed dex needs sorting
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great (bare in mind that before this change archers had the highest def with highest dex, which isn't right. ) However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer Maybe small tweaks to look at 2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo 2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 handed classes, archers could get arrows with bonus attack Oversly if cap is removed dex needs sorting [/quote]
"JAHEIRA"Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great

However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer



To be fair there will always be an "issue" with archers damage vs axers, we're talking about the class which earns the least str vs the class which earns the most.
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[quote="NUCLEAR"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer [/quote] To be fair there will always be an "issue" with archers damage vs axers, we're talking about the class which earns the least str vs the class which earns the most.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g


Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared

top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100
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[quote="STONES"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100 [/quote]
"STONES"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g


Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared

top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100


This video ends all bias comments.
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[quote="DONNIE"][quote="STONES"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100 [/quote] This video ends all bias comments.[/quote]
"STONES"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g


Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared

top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100


Good Demonstration of point at hand.

Only reason i suggest a reversal of the str/con change is because going forward archers will be forced to punch, as gaining (assuming they fix dex cap) dex only and a little str will only further increase the existing disparity.

But I suppose some skill/weapon/aura tweaks could do it if they were significant enough.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g Level 100 axer vs knux - both ungeared top that with enough bag space to carry 400 odd HP pots +100 [/quote] Good Demonstration of point at hand. Only reason i suggest a reversal of the str/con change is because going forward archers will be forced to punch, as gaining (assuming they fix dex cap) dex only and a little str will only further increase the existing disparity. But I suppose some skill/weapon/aura tweaks could do it if they were significant enough. [/quote]
Thing is you'd need to rebalance everyone, probably saving this for the cap increase? who knows, but lets not forget there are several classes here not just axers and archers.

Also lets not forget that older chars are affected even more due to added mobs, or worse builds etc.
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[quote="NUCLEAR"]Thing is you'd need to rebalance everyone, probably saving this for the cap increase? who knows, but lets not forget there are several classes here not just axers and archers. Also lets not forget that older chars are affected even more due to added mobs, or worse builds etc.[/quote]
New set of weps with better attack or plus stats (str dex hp etc) its not asif we have had a different weapon since level 60!

Cap dex at level 101.. ( so the people who have punched/bowed the last 100% get what they want!)

Set str/int gains for all classes ( removes the need to punch aswell)

Sorted
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[quote="_JR_"]New set of weps with better attack or plus stats (str dex hp etc) its not asif we have had a different weapon since level 60! Cap dex at level 101.. ( so the people who have punched/bowed the last 100% get what they want!) Set str/int gains for all classes ( removes the need to punch aswell) Sorted[/quote]

 

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