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sword and spear are already balanced imo, archers don't do much dmg to spear users either however, knux does enough to those so nerf axe df even if it's minimal increase archers dmg again minimal and you will see a much better balance across the board.. knuxers wouldn't need a boost if axers were nerfd.
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[quote="DONNIE"]sword and spear are already balanced imo, archers don't do much dmg to spear users either however, knux does enough to those so nerf axe df even if it's minimal increase archers dmg again minimal and you will see a much better balance across the board.. knuxers wouldn't need a boost if axers were nerfd.[/quote]
"STONES"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g


Imbalance at its finest.

The only way any class could beat a Axer now is with a ridiculous STR set or some of the the lucky few who benefited from those special quest RDT's ;)
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[quote="ASUZ"][quote="STONES"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g [/quote] Imbalance at its finest. The only way any class could beat a Axer now is with a ridiculous STR set or some of the the lucky few who benefited from those special quest RDT's ;)[/quote]
Inb4 vid of Heavily geared knuxor beats an ungeared axer pops up.
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[quote="NARSTIE"]Inb4 vid of Heavily geared knuxor beats an ungeared axer pops up.[/quote]
"ASUZ"
"STONES"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g


Imbalance at its finest.

The only way any class could beat a Axer now is with a ridiculous STR set or some of the the lucky few who benefited from those special quest RDT's ;)


Which would be no one unless you actually think gms would be dumb enough to leave any of that gear in game.
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[quote="NUCLEAR"][quote="ASUZ"][quote="STONES"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCbkiv8r_g [/quote] Imbalance at its finest. The only way any class could beat a Axer now is with a ridiculous STR set or some of the the lucky few who benefited from those special quest RDT's ;)[/quote] Which would be no one unless you actually think gms would be dumb enough to leave any of that gear in game.[/quote]
"JAHEIRA"Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great (bare in mind that before this change archers had the highest def with highest dex, which isn't right. )

However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer

Maybe small tweaks to look at

2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo

2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma

Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon

Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 han[/b]2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo

2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was t[/b]

2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma

Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon

Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 han[/b]2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo

2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma

Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon

Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 handed classes, archers could get arrows with bonus attack

Oversly if cap is removed dex needs sorting


Just to repost this as alot seem to have past it

And to stones vs kekket

Kekket isn't that ungeared, has shield equipped with perfect defence up that as stated is imo a bit over powered
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Tbh i don't think we warrent con /str change, think that change is working great (bare in mind that before this change archers had the highest def with highest dex, which isn't right. ) However there is a issue with dmg from a archer to a axer Maybe small tweaks to look at [b]2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo[/b] 2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 han[/b]2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo 2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was t[/b] 2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 han[/b]2nd axe aura def was alted along time ago from esoma, this makes a huge difference imo 2nd bow aura has had evasion nerfed, maybe alter dsoma 2nd like dsoma 4th axe was to Hsoma Grim xbow attack seems rather on the low side for the slower weapon Maybe bring in the shield slot items for 2 handed classes, archers could get arrows with bonus attack Oversly if cap is removed dex needs sorting [/quote] Just to repost this as alot seem to have past it And to stones vs kekket Kekket isn't that ungeared, has shield equipped with perfect defence up that as stated is imo a bit over powered[/quote]
In this video none of us has upgraded gear on, we made it so show unbalance of classes
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[quote="STONES"]In this video none of us has upgraded gear on, we made it so show unbalance of classes[/quote]
"STONES"In this video none of us has upgraded gear on, we made it so show unbalance of classes


It's taking your word for it that none of u have upgraded gear equipped

I belive kekket has some accuracy upgrades avalable to him

Putting that to one side there is a issue with the top str class vs the lowest

Sword/spear/knuckle/bow seem quite balanced even axe/sword/spear are balanced
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="STONES"]In this video none of us has upgraded gear on, we made it so show unbalance of classes[/quote] It's taking your word for it that none of u have upgraded gear equipped I belive kekket has some accuracy upgrades avalable to him Putting that to one side there is a issue with the top str class vs the lowest Sword/spear/knuckle/bow seem quite balanced even axe/sword/spear are balanced[/quote]
untagged knux stones nais =]

real world scenario innit
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[quote="LAG"]untagged knux stones nais =] real world scenario innit[/quote]

_JR_
New set of weps with better attack or plus stats (str dex hp etc) its not asif we have had a different weapon since level 60!

Cap dex at level 101.. ( so the people who have punched/bowed the last 100% get what they want!)

Set str/int gains for all classes ( removes the need to punch aswell)

Sorted


Truly in a game this far along the above is all you can do, logically.

New Weapons are the only way to address it, faster recoil bows with a slight damage buff.

Take the current set of weps - add 10-10, give bow/knuck 12-12 or sumthing. Obviously that needs looked at carefully but +stat weps would go a long way too.


Believe what you will but Devil Soma was NEVER created with ANY class balance in mind at all.
All they thought was a high damage output that will be like mini bosses vs Humans.

Devils were never meant to fight themselves much ;p as far as game makers were concerned!



I'd say a new tier of weps and working on boss mob drops / abyss style drop only map should be top priority to keep Dsoma active and give a little interest to the capped chars.
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[quote="THEHOOD"][quote=] _JR_ New set of weps with better attack or plus stats (str dex hp etc) its not asif we have had a different weapon since level 60! Cap dex at level 101.. ( so the people who have punched/bowed the last 100% get what they want!) Set str/int gains for all classes ( removes the need to punch aswell) Sorted[/quote] Truly in a game this far along the above is all you can do, logically. New Weapons are the only way to address it, faster recoil bows with a slight damage buff. Take the current set of weps - add 10-10, give bow/knuck 12-12 or sumthing. Obviously that needs looked at carefully but +stat weps would go a long way too. Believe what you will but Devil Soma was NEVER created with ANY class balance in mind at all. All they thought was a high damage output that will be like mini bosses vs Humans. Devils were never meant to fight themselves much ;p as far as game makers were concerned! I'd say a new tier of weps and working on boss mob drops / abyss style drop only map should be top priority to keep Dsoma active and give a little interest to the capped chars.[/quote]
Or linking into hero armour style stuff maybe their could be class specific sets ? Adding the needed bits?

Classes were never going to be even but that's obvious, only reason hsoma evens out a little is because they can use second weaps to buff their worst stat, there is a reason the majority of them use bow and axe
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Or linking into hero armour style stuff maybe their could be class specific sets ? Adding the needed bits? Classes were never going to be even but that's obvious, only reason hsoma evens out a little is because they can use second weaps to buff their worst stat, there is a reason the majority of them use bow and axe[/quote]
not a dig at gms... i understand how busy they are irl etc


whilst dsoma is as busy as it is! these kind of changes need to be made or it will be back to the usual crowd of players

Been capped a year now, there's nothing that gives me an incentive to log in apart from raiding and wotw

its nothing like hsoma where you can farm for items and upgrades

barr is a big issue aswell

and magmas are way to hard and take hardly any damage

One overhaul patch to dsoma would bring back a few faces in sure!
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[quote="_JR_"]not a dig at gms... i understand how busy they are irl etc whilst dsoma is as busy as it is! these kind of changes need to be made or it will be back to the usual crowd of players Been capped a year now, there's nothing that gives me an incentive to log in apart from raiding and wotw its nothing like hsoma where you can farm for items and upgrades barr is a big issue aswell and magmas are way to hard and take hardly any damage One overhaul patch to dsoma would bring back a few faces in sure![/quote]
There is no incentive to log in because you are banned bro.

I know it's been 5 long weeks but, the suspension message is still the same.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]There is no incentive to log in because you are banned bro. I know it's been 5 long weeks but, the suspension message is still the same.[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"There is no incentive to log in because you are banned bro.

I know it's been 5 long weeks but, the suspension message is still the same.


Bit rich coming from someone with two suspensions under his belt. Either way I don't see how that's relevant to the post about incentive. I'm not banned and I barely login outside of gvw/wotw and pk fights.
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[quote="NUCLEAR"][quote="NEOXIAN"]There is no incentive to log in because you are banned bro. I know it's been 5 long weeks but, the suspension message is still the same.[/quote] Bit rich coming from someone with two suspensions under his belt. Either way I don't see how that's relevant to the post about incentive. I'm not banned and I barely login outside of gvw/wotw and pk fights.[/quote]
just looking at that video, its clear to see kekket has some sort of dex/acc upgrades on.

i've dueled most classes at cap and i found it mostly fair. and i had no upgraded armour.
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[quote="MARMMOLE"]just looking at that video, its clear to see kekket has some sort of dex/acc upgrades on. i've dueled most classes at cap and i found it mostly fair. and i had no upgraded armour.[/quote]
Balance is an ongoing issue at any point in time.

I'm quite happy with the thread generally. However, keep remarks about bans and cheats to yourself. It has no place here especially if punishment has already been given out. Oh, and there's so many glass houses in Soma too, which I could shatter at any moment.

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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Balance is an ongoing issue at any point in time. I'm quite happy with the thread generally. However, keep remarks about bans and cheats to yourself. It has no place here especially if punishment has already been given out. Oh, and there's so many glass houses in Soma too, which I could shatter at any moment. [/quote]

 

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