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[quote="FINITO"][quote="MANTICORE"]u know a mage wont be able to use invul right?[/quote] Yeah, that is on purpose just like melee not being able to wear high int armors. - We decided to split the armors between classes that use physical damage and magic damage because of the different classes and didn't make sense that both types could wear the highest stat armors. - STR armors were distributed starting at level 5 to 85 every 10 levels and given a stat requirement that would be obtainable by all physical damage classes of that level. - INT armors were distributed starting at level 5 to 65 (STR has two more armors) every 10 levels and given a stat requirement that would be obtainable by magic damage class of that level. Can try it with the armors being available at stat requirements that all classes can obtain. [quote="MANTICORE"]with those high requirements u lock people to specific cookie cutter specs and there wont be any diversity at all not to mention the balance will out of place.[/quote] Would like to know your reasoning behind these comments. - Are you saying that players would want to always get enough Str or Int (mage) to wear all of the armors therefore they would need to put a lot of points into the stat required therefore with lower requirement can put more points elsewhere? - Would the balance be out of place due to the differences of DF/MDF because cannot wear all armors (though obviously there is still differences due to Con/Wis) ? [quote="MANTICORE"]why dont u replace str/int from armors and replce em with con/wis these will be more usefull stats than str anyways. with this people will build their characters abit differently they wont be forced to put alot of points on str.[/quote] - Mage would then have no reason to put points into Str. - Human's wouldn't be able to wear the Con armors. - It does make sense that way with Con and Wis currently being for DF and MDF. This all assuming that we do keep the change back to Con and Wis for DF and MDF. The main reason for not having it be Str and Int is then Con and Wis don't have much of a purpose, could come up with a new purpose for them.[/quote]

[quote="FINITO"][quote="MANTICORE"]as for specs lets say for example an archer who gets the lowest sr cap and wants to build his char towards more bust with a proc set by increasing his int in the expense of his str he can't do it now.[/quote] Why can it not be done? Is it because would feel forced into getting the 199 str needed to wear invul? [quote="MANTICORE"]2nd example would be an axer for eg who would like to be more tanky on wotws and goes a similar with increased int to use mage armors to tank all those human mages.[/quote] Hmmm and we gave currently Warrior the lowest maximum Int but we can't have them being able to get high str and high Int. Perhaps need something where if say Warrior gets 100 Int (current max) and they want to go over 100 Int it would then start decreasing their maximum Str (290). E.g. you get 110 Int and then Str max decreases to 280 but I don't see how this would work for Dex though. [quote="MANTICORE"]As for con/wis you either have to revert em back or remove em or alternative make em work just like their counterparts on hsoma[/quote] I wouldn't want to see them removed. Reverting is an option but then they would need more purpose (though they do play smaller part in some calcs, Con is used in Health, Stamina, and Weight calc and Wisdom is used in Mana calc). [quote="MANTICORE"]You can also introduce a 200str armor aswell [/quote] Why? Invul has 199 Str req. Maybe it would be better to just give all classes the highest cap for each stat then all classes could put points into stats up to 290 Str, 210 Dex, 240 Int, 240 Wis, 290 Con. - Would obviously still have limited points to spend. - Not restricted to a class specific maximum limit (this seems to be the main issue and downside of how the system is currently implemented). So your Warrior can sacrifice some str and get their Int higher than 100. - Might have to tweak how many stat points are given per level though (initially would keep it the same which is 7). - Difference between classes is then handled by what weapon they use as they would be looking to put more points into the stat that is required. For Warrior it naturally means they would get higher Str armors because it is also their stat requirement for weapon and same thing for Wizard and Int armors (at least it would work like this if those classes want to actually use the higher stat requriement weapons as they could if wanted skip higher weapons and spend points in another stat instead).[/quote]