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MALEFIC |
dex of devil must be decreased on conty.. they dnt let us cast or anything lol
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#1 2013/12/13 19:30:00 |
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ARRIS |
Use a bow
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#2 2013/12/13 19:32:20 |
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CARNAGE |
"CARNAGE""S0RCERER"% would be allowed to increase at wars. I should really go do the lottery or something.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="CARNAGE"][quote="S0RCERER"]% would be allowed to increase at wars.[/quote]
So we all have our hp decreased, then follows the wave of humans complaining they still can't cast so we have our dex decreased etc etc hope you see where I'm going with this lol..[/quote]
I should really go do the lottery or something.[/quote]
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#3 2013/12/13 19:32:39 |
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GILGAMESH |
"ARRIS"Use a bow Try be more constructive? Devil archers in cont are pretty much immune to non int dmg simply because of how much they dodge In a 1v1 you certainly wont be casting vs them either. |
#4 2013/12/13 19:38:10 |
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CARNAGE |
"GILGAMESH""ARRIS"Use a bow For what it's worth they don't get hit a lot on dsoma either lol.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="GILGAMESH"][quote="ARRIS"]Use a bow[/quote]
Try be more constructive? Devil archers in cont are pretty much immune to non int dmg simply because of how much they dodge
In a 1v1 you certainly wont be casting vs them either.
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For what it's worth they don't get hit a lot on dsoma either lol.[/quote]
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#5 2013/12/13 19:49:59 |
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GENEFUSER |
"MALEFIC"dex of devil must be decreased on conty.. they dnt let us cast or anything lol We don't hurt you, this is the only thing we can do. Don't take that away from us too. |
#6 2013/12/13 19:53:54 |
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ARRIS |
"GILGAMESH""ARRIS"Use a bow I think it was constructive, you have the option to train your dex. Get high dex and cast mage dodge or you probably have an M-tag bow... Being able to fight 1v1 defeats the purpose of dsoma.<full stop> I think the usage and turnouts have started to prove this.
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[quote="ARRIS"][quote="GILGAMESH"][quote="ARRIS"]Use a bow[/quote]
Try be more constructive? Devil archers in cont are pretty much immune to non int dmg simply because of how much they dodge
In a 1v1 you certainly wont be casting vs them either.
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I think it was constructive, you have the option to train your dex. Get high dex and cast mage dodge or you probably have an M-tag bow...
Being able to fight 1v1 defeats the purpose of dsoma.<full stop>
I think the usage and turnouts have started to prove this.[/quote]
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#7 2013/12/13 19:59:11 |
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BELKA |
"ARRIS" How high does human DEX go? How high does devil DEX go? :) |
#8 2013/12/13 20:07:26 |
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WARLOCK |
"BELKA""ARRIS" What % are humans? What % are devils? :) Please dont think you should be able to solo a devil ever.
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[quote="WARLOCK"][quote="BELKA"][quote="ARRIS"]
I think it was constructive, you have the option to train your dex. Get high dex and cast mage dodge or you probably have an M-tag bow...[/quote]
How high does human DEX go?
How high does devil DEX go?
:)[/quote]
What % are humans?
What % are devils?
:)
Please dont think you should be able to solo a devil
ever.[/quote]
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#9 2013/12/13 20:25:19 |
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ARRIS |
"BELKA""ARRIS" I don't know? please tell me caps. "ARRIS"
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[quote="ARRIS"][quote="BELKA"][quote="ARRIS"]
I think it was constructive, you have the option to train your dex. Get high dex and cast mage dodge or you probably have an M-tag bow...[/quote]
How high does human DEX go?
How high does devil DEX go?
:)[/quote]
I don't know? please tell me caps.
[quote="ARRIS"]
Being able to fight 1v1 defeats the purpose of dsoma.<full stop>
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#10 2013/12/13 20:30:29 |
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REHLINA |
both caped at 216 ? or something like that
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#11 2013/12/13 20:33:44 |
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BELKA |
"WARLOCK" Eh? Read the thread. The point about this thread is devil dex on conti. Dex doesnt scale with conti %. Hence a devil with 140 Dex in Pandi has 140 in Conti. Hence they can do 20 dmg a hit to humans and have 40% of their Pandi magic defence, yet a human with even the best possible dex (so like 95ish) can only land like 1 cast in 5. I agree that devils should be able to come into conti and harrass humans, and that they shouldnt get 2 hit by same level humans etc. I was simply replying to someone going 'use a bow, get more dex'. Humans cannot get anything close to the dex that devils can get, and that doesnt scale on Conti - so its a facetious think to say.
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[quote="BELKA"][quote="WARLOCK"]
What % are humans?
What % are devils?
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Eh? Read the thread.
The point about this thread is devil dex on conti. [b]Dex doesnt scale with conti %[/b]. Hence a devil with 140 Dex in Pandi has 140 in Conti.
Hence they can do 20 dmg a hit to humans and have 40% of their Pandi magic defence, yet a human with even the best possible dex (so like 95ish) can only land like 1 cast in 5.
I agree that devils should be able to come into conti and harrass humans, and that they shouldnt get 2 hit by same level humans etc. I was simply replying to someone going 'use a bow, get more dex'. Humans cannot get anything close to the dex that devils can get, and that doesnt scale on Conti - so its a facetious think to say. [/quote]
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#12 2013/12/13 20:41:18 |
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REDVEX |
Soft caps at 100. Hard caps at 200. After 200 dex, gains are normally .1 dex every 5+ levels or so until 214.7, though no one will be getting close to this.
Forgot to add that basically once a human hits 100 dex. They'll get 1 dex every 15+ str with bow so getting anywhere near the amount of dex a devil has, is impossible. Image for the ones curious about each races dex;  This sounds a bit confusing, but Is it possible to try something like having devil dex rates reduced by 33% of their current %? So if they're on 60% in conti raiding, their dex would be reduced by 20%. So a devil on 140 dex would be on 112 dex. Devil on 100 dex would be on 80 dex etc. That way there should be no complaints by humans. I believe the current % is 40 for raiding? so the above wouldn't have too much affect.
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[quote="REDVEX"]Soft caps at 100. Hard caps at 200. After 200 dex, gains are normally .1 dex every 5+ levels or so until 214.7, though no one will be getting close to this.
Forgot to add that basically once a human hits 100 dex. They'll get 1 dex every 15+ str with bow so getting anywhere near the amount of dex a devil has, is impossible.
Image for the ones curious about each races dex;
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Z3MPjlL.png?1[/IMG]
This sounds a bit confusing, but Is it possible to try something like having devil dex rates reduced by 33% of their current %? So if they're on 60% in conti raiding, their dex would be reduced by 20%. So a devil on 140 dex would be on 112 dex. Devil on 100 dex would be on 80 dex etc. That way there should be no complaints by humans. I believe the current % is 40 for raiding? so the above wouldn't have too much affect.[/quote]
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#13 2013/12/13 20:53:50 |
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ARRIS |
oh caps
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#14 2013/12/13 21:01:04 |
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ILOVECAWK |
yes kill dsoma some more as if its not dead enough alrdy
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#15 2013/12/14 08:34:57 |
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