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clarification on soft cap (dex)

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"BASIL"If a monster has caps shouldn't you finish on the same stats regardless to what speed the server is on??


Remember dex is based on how much str you gain from a monster ideally your dex should be as close to str as possible for the highest possible amount at monster cap.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="BASIL"]If a monster has caps shouldn't you finish on the same stats regardless to what speed the server is on?? [/quote] Remember dex is based on how much str you gain from a monster ideally your dex should be as close to str as possible for the highest possible amount at monster cap.[/quote]
Gotcha :D
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[quote="BASIL"]Gotcha :D[/quote]
If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven?
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[quote="ACAELUS"]If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven? [/quote]
"ACAELUS"If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven?


They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db.

If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147.

sid slevel str dex
0 0 0 0
1 11 50000 100000
2 13 20000 40000
3 15 10000 20000
4 20 5500 11000
5 25 1500 3000
6 30 450 900
7 35 220 440
8 40 170 340
9 45 100 200
10 50 80 160
11 55 60 120
12 60 40 80
13 65 25 50
14 70 10 20
15 75 8 16
16 80 7 14
17 85 5 10
18 90 4 8
19 95 2 4
20 100 1 2
21 200 1 1
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="ACAELUS"]If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven? [/quote] They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db. If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147. sid slevel str dex 0 0 0 0 1 11 50000 100000 2 13 20000 40000 3 15 10000 20000 4 20 5500 11000 5 25 1500 3000 6 30 450 900 7 35 220 440 8 40 170 340 9 45 100 200 10 50 80 160 11 55 60 120 12 60 40 80 13 65 25 50 14 70 10 20 15 75 8 16 16 80 7 14 17 85 5 10 18 90 4 8 19 95 2 4 20 100 1 2 21 200 1 1[/quote]
Fair enough. Cheers for clarifying.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Fair enough. Cheers for clarifying. [/quote]
"ISYLVER"
"ACAELUS"If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven?


They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db.

If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147.

sid slevel str dex
0 0 0 0
1 11 50000 100000
2 13 20000 40000
3 15 10000 20000
4 20 5500 11000
5 25 1500 3000
6 30 450 900
7 35 220 440
8 40 170 340
9 45 100 200
10 50 80 160
11 55 60 120
12 60 40 80
13 65 25 50
14 70 10 20
15 75 8 16
16 80 7 14
17 85 5 10
18 90 4 8
19 95 2 4
20 100 1 2
21 200 1 1


From what I understand from that, STR is always twice as fast as DEX (except after 200).

But that does not seem to be the case on Devil side of things after 100. Does it work differently?
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="ISYLVER"][quote="ACAELUS"]If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven? [/quote] They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db. If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147. sid slevel str dex 0 0 0 0 1 11 50000 100000 2 13 20000 40000 3 15 10000 20000 4 20 5500 11000 5 25 1500 3000 6 30 450 900 7 35 220 440 8 40 170 340 9 45 100 200 10 50 80 160 11 55 60 120 12 60 40 80 13 65 25 50 14 70 10 20 15 75 8 16 16 80 7 14 17 85 5 10 18 90 4 8 19 95 2 4 20 100 1 2 21 200 1 1[/quote] From what I understand from that, STR is always twice as fast as DEX (except after 200). But that does not seem to be the case on Devil side of things after 100. Does it work differently?[/quote]
"ISYLVER"
"ACAELUS"If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven?


They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db.

If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147.

sid slevel str dex
0 0 0 0
1 11 50000 100000
2 13 20000 40000
3 15 10000 20000
4 20 5500 11000
5 25 1500 3000
6 30 450 900
7 35 220 440
8 40 170 340
9 45 100 200
10 50 80 160
11 55 60 120
12 60 40 80
13 65 25 50
14 70 10 20
15 75 8 16
16 80 7 14
17 85 5 10
18 90 4 8
19 95 2 4
20 100 1 2
21 200 1 1


Isylver can you provide updated numbers for this table now dex gains have been changed after 100 please.
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[quote="CHARIZARD"][quote="ISYLVER"][quote="ACAELUS"]If all weapons started off with equal gains, and then you slow dex at a greater proportion to str, do you not agree that the balance is now uneven? [/quote] They slow at the same ratio and this table has been the exact same in every db since ragezone db. If anything dex is faster than str as dex caps at 214.7 due to the table structure where as str caps at 2147. sid slevel str dex 0 0 0 0 1 11 50000 100000 2 13 20000 40000 3 15 10000 20000 4 20 5500 11000 5 25 1500 3000 6 30 450 900 7 35 220 440 8 40 170 340 9 45 100 200 10 50 80 160 11 55 60 120 12 60 40 80 13 65 25 50 14 70 10 20 15 75 8 16 16 80 7 14 17 85 5 10 18 90 4 8 19 95 2 4 20 100 1 2 21 200 1 1[/quote] Isylver can you provide updated numbers for this table now dex gains have been changed after 100 please.[/quote]
Basically take 100+ and refer to 95 as it's the same
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Basically take 100+ and refer to 95 as it's the same[/quote]
I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100?

Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread.........

wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100? Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread......... wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100?

Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread.........

wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?


None of the information in this thread applies anymore, it was made before the changes to dex gains.
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[quote="MELENECK"][quote="LUPISCUS"]I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100? Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread......... wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?[/quote] None of the information in this thread applies anymore, it was made before the changes to dex gains.[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100?

Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread.........

wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?


Thread from 2013. I too was nearly fooled into reading it all again.

What sylver just said (recent post) is that its the same at 100+ as at 95+.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="LUPISCUS"]I thought the previous info was...... Dex doesnt slow after 95...... 95 is the last slow? Now ppl are talking of mega slow after 100? Lots of hardcore shizzle/waffle here in this thread......... wtf does it all mean ..in plain and simple terms?[/quote] Thread from 2013. I too was nearly fooled into reading it all again. What sylver just said (recent post) is that its the same at 100+ as at 95+.[/quote]
Hell ye...... pfft.. i read it all at 1am thinkin it was current ;p
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]Hell ye...... pfft.. i read it all at 1am thinkin it was current ;p[/quote]

 

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