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"YAREYAREDAZE"Sorry tyro but the second you said

"accuracy gear has put dex out of the game" you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

I have the most accuracy gear in dsoma, and even I think its fkin worthless at the moment. I've actually been wearing my GVW tank items mostly in pvp, because I need survivability, not 20% more hit rate

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I agree stones, the only issue is that deimos/ me can NEVER wear zombie pants ourselves, as 1. we won't hit a dex class enough to ever get a reasonable procc chance, and 2.) We will absolutely melt without the defense from pads, when we are eating every auto attack that heads our way

"DEIMOS"I would suggest my gear is better than you are aware but also I can’t afford to wear zombie pants otherwise you would be hitting me for 100 damage a hit, with the recoil nuk has nobody can afford to take that damage every hit

I’m not suggesting returning back to where it was before as that was far too high, it was to the point where I was able to dual screen pvp because nobody bothered attacking axers, I just believe this is too far in the other direction

Without anyone dying it isn’t viable to fight Dex classes 1v1, pots run out to quick to bother, maybe the con boost for everyone is what would suit things I don’t know but when all 3 101+ axers are saying they can’t see themselves bothering with it while other classes are thriving surely rings alarm bells somewhere

"STONES"

"YAREYAREDAZE"Sorry tyro but the second you said

"accuracy gear has put dex out of the game" you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

I have the most accuracy gear in dsoma, and even I think its fkin worthless at the moment. I've actually been wearing my GVW tank items mostly in pvp, because I need survivability, not 20% more hit rate

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I agree stones, the only issue is that deimos/ me can NEVER wear zombie pants ourselves, as 1. we won't hit a dex class enough to ever get a reasonable procc chance, and 2.) We will absolutely melt without the defense from pads, when we are eating every auto attack that heads our way

Last night you were claiming 50% hit rate against archer, now you can't hit a Dex class enough?

"TYROZET"Ok Yare you 5th me and i drop in seconds

Curby who doesnt have gear anywhere like you but same level 5ths me and then tries to run healer but can't make it before i drop him says to me your accuracy gear outweighs my dex

"YAREYAREDAZE"

"STONES"

"YAREYAREDAZE"Sorry tyro but the second you said

"accuracy gear has put dex out of the game" you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

I have the most accuracy gear in dsoma, and even I think its fkin worthless at the moment. I've actually been wearing my GVW tank items mostly in pvp, because I need survivability, not 20% more hit rate

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I agree stones, the only issue is that deimos/ me can NEVER wear zombie pants ourselves, as 1. we won't hit a dex class enough to ever get a reasonable procc chance, and 2.) We will absolutely melt without the defense from pads, when we are eating every auto attack that heads our way

Last night you were claiming 50% hit rate against archer, now you can't hit a Dex class enough?

I hit you a fine amount, but thats me, not most other axers like kekket/cocaine/curby etc. You honestly think I can get away with wearing zombies though :p? Can party you in arena later if u wanna test it. Fairly sure damage will absolutely not be worth it. And without zombies, I'm never killing you.

"YAREYAREDAZE"

"TYROZET"Ok Yare you 5th me and i drop in seconds

Curby who doesnt have gear anywhere like you but same level 5ths me and then tries to run healer but can't make it before i drop him says to me your accuracy gear outweighs my dex

1 DT = +evasion chance and +accuracy chance.

1KE = +accuracy chance

I would also take anythin curby says with a grain of salt, hes high most of the time (fairly sure he was last night at that fight lol )

no offense curb we still love you <3

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I think the 2 main issues are - DTs are without question too strong at the moment, can anyone provide any evidence to the contrary? Dsoma is at the moment a Dex gear arms race, EVERY CLASS wants them. And as musa suggests ( and we suggested 50times in PTR) Con might need buffing FOR ALL CLASSES (not just axers, how do you think poor spear users feel?).

"YAREYAREDAZE"When I was on the PTR, and the hit chance text was shown. It appeared I had a 25% hit chance on archers ( pure dex calculation I was wearing zero gear).

I then put my accuracy set on and it said I had a 48% hit chance or something. It appears the accuracy you get from armor, is a flat additional percentage to your hit chance, AFTER the dex calculation has been performed.

This sort of means, you can counter peoples dex gear with your own dex gear, but you can't counter their accuracy gear by wearing my dex stuff.

I assume evasion in hsoma applies the same but for miss chance ( reduces your hit chance by a flat modifer after the dex calculation).

"FINITO"AttackDex = dex + item dex
DefenseDex = target dex + target item dex
HitDex = AttackDex - DefenseDex
HitDex == 0 then HitRate = 50%
HitDex < -50 then HitRate = 20%

Every 1 dex above is +1% evasion until 99% (49 dex above is the maximum 99%).

Every 1 dex below is -1% evasion until 36% (stops at 14 dex below).

Every 2 dex below starting at 15 dex below is -1% evasion until 23% (stops at 42 dex below).

43 dex below is 23%
44 to 49 dex below is 21%
50+ dex below is 20%

After have got a HitRate from the above.

HitRate += Accuracy on items.
HitRate -= Target Evasion on items and evasion from aura.

HitRate is then kept within the bounds of 1% and 99%.

"JAMIS"

"FINITO"AttackDex = dex + item dex
DefenseDex = target dex + target item dex
HitDex = AttackDex - DefenseDex
HitDex == 0 then HitRate = 50%
HitDex < -50 then HitRate = 20%

Every 1 dex above is +1% evasion until 99% (49 dex above is the maximum 99%).

Every 1 dex below is -1% evasion until 36% (stops at 14 dex below).

Every 2 dex below starting at 15 dex below is -1% evasion until 23% (stops at 42 dex below).

43 dex below is 23%
44 to 49 dex below is 21%
50+ dex below is 20%

After have got a HitRate from the above.

HitRate += Accuracy on items.
HitRate -= Target Evasion on items and evasion from aura.

HitRate is then kept within the bounds of 1% and 99%.

To save on the bullshit.