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Well because those pple dont like close range archer is op coz hiting and run as STRELKA said but not me i feel its best and balanced atm because we never killed an axer 6 years now we can kill axer ... i had video 8pple hiting kekket he had 300pots tooke for use 10 minut to let him down hows its possible?
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[quote="COCAINE"]Well because those pple dont like close range archer is op coz hiting and run as STRELKA said but not me i feel its best and balanced atm because we never killed an axer 6 years now we can kill axer ... i had video 8pple hiting kekket he had 300pots tooke for use 10 minut to let him down hows its possible?[/quote]
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#106 2017/12/18 19:53:30 |
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YAREYAREDAZE |
post the video please so we can all see kekket tanking 8 people easily =)
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#107 2017/12/18 19:57:17 |
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COCAINE |
I dint know how i will send it to gm he will post it np and kekket kbow i thibk its on this forum the video wagawaga used to do 7hp for him lol evry hit there is a video here on this server and will send to gm
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#108 2017/12/18 19:59:51 |
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WAGAWAGA |
If u do not respect my opinion why u made this thread then i do t need anyone to complain with me, im just trying to understand why u always trying to put axer on the top on dsoma. Its been for years and we saw wths happen please dont need this again just becuz let axer to stone during pvp and never die.
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"]If u do not respect my opinion why u made this thread then i do t need anyone to complain with me, im just trying to understand why u always trying to put axer on the top on dsoma. Its been for years and we saw wths happen please dont need this again just becuz let axer to stone during pvp and never die.[/quote]
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#109 2017/12/18 20:01:52 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Axers u have a great aura deff use it please :)
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#110 2017/12/18 20:03:00 |
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COCAINE |
"WAGAWAGA"Axers u have a great aura deff use it please :) Wagawaga they want to used 2nd aura for def and 4aura to spd wep and they wanna stone in same auras and they want to add more con lol isnt that to much |
#111 2017/12/18 20:07:37 |
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WAGAWAGA |
i just dont get it why axer should tank 2-3-4-5-6-7 peoples who said that. Wake up system was broken when u guys tanked wake up lol, use 2nd deff and leave the stone aura for 1vs1
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#112 2017/12/18 20:12:16 |
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FRINGE |
dunno how i survuved reading all this. isnt the point that an archer can rek an axer 1v1 without any issues pretty much. let alone the group jogs that you end up doing. since every person does so much dmg.
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#113 2017/12/18 21:11:20 |
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"WAGAWAGA"i just dont get it why axer should tank 2-3-4-5-6-7 peoples who said that. Wake up system was broken when u guys tanked wake up lol, use 2nd deff and leave the stone aura for 1vs1 Yup everyone's agreed on how stupidly broken axers were. spears were also unbalanced in how strong they were against other classes. Testing with deimos (in my Dex set vs his defence set - not sure how many cts he has on his armour ) it takes me 16 hits to kill him 700ish hp /16 I do just over 40dmg a hit Thats without new shield + con upgrades + con access If he was to get a 30 con increase on top of all the above, even in a good STR set for more attack I'm not going to be hurting him and we're back to square one -even without a con increase I'm going to have to use STR/pod set to damage him, while still getting chunked for 35% of my hp Everytime he hits me. If I was using a +40 STR set I would be doing 80dmg per hit, once he has new shield and +40con in gear, I'll still be hitting him for 40dmg a hit, but lose lots of my survivability from not being able to use Dex gear
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[quote="STONES"][quote="WAGAWAGA"]i just dont get it why axer should tank 2-3-4-5-6-7 peoples who said that. Wake up system was broken when u guys tanked wake up lol, use 2nd deff and leave the stone aura for 1vs1 [/quote]
Yup everyone's agreed on how stupidly broken axers were.
spears were also unbalanced in how strong they were against other classes.
Testing with deimos (in my Dex set vs his defence set - not sure how many cts he has on his armour ) it takes me 16 hits to kill him
700ish hp /16 I do just over 40dmg a hit
Thats without new shield + con upgrades + con access
If he was to get a 30 con increase on top of all the above, even in a good STR set for more attack I'm not going to be hurting him and we're back to square one
-even without a con increase I'm going to have to use STR/pod set to damage him, while still getting chunked for 35% of my hp Everytime he hits me.
If I was using a +40 STR set I would be doing 80dmg per hit, once he has new shield and +40con in gear, I'll still be hitting him for 40dmg a hit, but lose lots of my survivability from not being able to use Dex gear
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#114 2017/12/18 21:19:22 |
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YAREYAREDAZE |
See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol
As a few people have suggested in the distant future when we all running around in upgraded souls ears and con accessories, it is likely possible to bring the damage down to a reasonable amount (especially if hp pools inflate from 100-110), as stones shows It also means if u wanna do damage to tanky chars, u can't sit in dex gear, and avoid everything except auras, or you will be doing near min damage. This is probs exactly how it should be, and allows for interesting gear-dependant playstyles to be chosen. The issue is , the con acess arent even in the game yet, and its been 4 days? and there hasn't been a single con tablet dropped on dsoma, and tarks are being farmed harder than they ever will be. So how long is it going to take for them to disperse into the dsoma economy, enough for people to be running around with +2-3 con upgraded gear. I think the answer is - too long. If it keeps on like this, too many ppl are going to become too frustrated and move on to something else / hsoma.
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[quote="YAREYAREDAZE"]See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol
As a few people have suggested in the distant future when we all running around in upgraded souls ears and con accessories, it is likely possible to bring the damage down to a reasonable amount (especially if hp pools inflate from 100-110), as stones shows
It also means if u wanna do damage to tanky chars, u can't sit in dex gear, and avoid everything except auras, or you will be doing near min damage. This is probs exactly how it should be, and allows for interesting gear-dependant playstyles to be chosen.
The issue is , the con acess arent even in the game yet, and its been 4 days? and there hasn't been a single con tablet dropped on dsoma, and tarks are being farmed harder than they ever will be.
So how long is it going to take for them to disperse into the dsoma economy, enough for people to be running around with +2-3 con upgraded gear. I think the answer is - too long.
If it keeps on like this, too many ppl are going to become too frustrated and move on to something else / hsoma.
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#115 2017/12/18 21:50:25 |
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COCAINE |
"YAREYAREDAZE"See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol |
#116 2017/12/18 21:59:38 |
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I actually think everything that needs to be said has been said now. We await a blue response or some action.
Summary of my thoughts: - Watch this video to compare pre- and post-patch group PVP - Melee classes report feeling far too soft to risk actually doing damage in melee - spear has it worst. - Axers have too much dex but too little survivability - All upgrades are useless now except CON and DEX. - Con upgrades might balance out the game, but that will be in months and months - a stopgap change in stat balances that boosts con while leaving everything the same would be very beneficial - Archers are super overpowered because they can avoid taking any damage but hurt people much more than they used to. Don't really see the point in saying any more myself, other than keeping this post bumped til we get a blue response.
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[quote="STRELKA"]I actually think everything that needs to be said has been said now. We await a blue response or some action.
Summary of my thoughts:
- [url=https://youtu.be/RFFuzuY-jAg]Watch this video[/url] to compare pre- and post-patch group PVP
- Melee classes report feeling far too soft to risk actually doing damage in melee - spear has it worst.
- Axers have too much dex but too little survivability
- All upgrades are useless now except CON and DEX.
- Con upgrades might balance out the game, but that will be in months and months - a stopgap change in stat balances that boosts con while leaving everything the same would be very beneficial
- Archers are super overpowered because they can avoid taking any damage but hurt people much more than they used to.
Don't really see the point in saying any more myself, other than keeping this post bumped til we get a blue response. [/quote]
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#117 2017/12/18 22:00:14 |
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YAREYAREDAZE |
"COCAINE""YAREYAREDAZE"See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol
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[quote="YAREYAREDAZE"][quote="COCAINE"][quote="YAREYAREDAZE"]See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol
Because I tooke my aducation from harvard university [/quote]
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#118 2017/12/18 22:02:13 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Lool yare man i been on dsoma alot of time im not new like u, wth u trying to make coven did it befor u and we saw a shitt's for years dont try to proof something that isnt correct even my english so bad and cant proof on videos but as coc said^^
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#119 2017/12/19 04:09:01 |
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MANTICORE |
"YAREYAREDAZE"See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol lol i got con tablet :P 10secs after u logged off yday :D
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[quote="MANTICORE"][quote="YAREYAREDAZE"]See, stones is providing numbers and explanations why he thinks there doesnt need to be changes. Its alot more constructive then the rubbish you been posting cocaine/waga lol
As a few people have suggested in the distant future when we all running around in upgraded souls ears and con accessories, it is likely possible to bring the damage down to a reasonable amount (especially if hp pools inflate from 100-110), as stones shows
It also means if u wanna do damage to tanky chars, u can't sit in dex gear, and avoid everything except auras, or you will be doing near min damage. This is probs exactly how it should be, and allows for interesting gear-dependant playstyles to be chosen.
The issue is , the con acess arent even in the game yet, and its been 4 days? and there hasn't been a single con tablet dropped on dsoma, and tarks are being farmed harder than they ever will be.
So how long is it going to take for them to disperse into the dsoma economy, enough for people to be running around with +2-3 con upgraded gear. I think the answer is - too long.
If it keeps on like this, too many ppl are going to become too frustrated and move on to something else / hsoma.
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lol i got con tablet :P 10secs after u logged off yday :D[/quote]
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#120 2017/12/19 13:01:07 |
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