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Let me clarify something for Eq,

I've never joined the hype on slating you guys but lets be entirely serious here.

participation in the war, standing in and around safe zone, even going to throne room to score kills for pos and kicks as % is so ridiculously low does not account for anything when you make no effort to stand on stones, and walk off on purpose well documentedly for monster so he could punch conti ab's.

please stop kidding and lying to yourselves, let me reiterate - warping to conti during wotw doesn't directly make you helpful, nor does scoring kills it is the stones that matter, and you guys are more than happy to throw these wars to help friends or benefit yourselves for SS. I no longer participate in RVR as it's pathetic for sub-80 devils now.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Let me clarify something for Eq, I've never joined the hype on slating you guys but lets be entirely serious here. participation in the war, standing in and around safe zone, even going to throne room to score kills for pos and kicks as % is so ridiculously low does not account for anything when you make no effort to stand on stones, and walk off on purpose well documentedly for monster so he could punch conti ab's. please stop kidding and lying to yourselves, let me reiterate - warping to conti during wotw doesn't directly make you helpful, nor does scoring kills it is the stones that matter, and you guys are more than happy to throw these wars to help friends or benefit yourselves for SS. I no longer participate in RVR as it's pathetic for sub-80 devils now.[/quote]
Been on the stone the past two wars.
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[quote="LORDCOOS"]Been on the stone the past two wars.[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"
Fujitora when are you going to wake up seriously? You think you're isylvers little puppet and have clout because you're 90+ r


he isnt 90+ he just loves a bit of photoshop on his sceenshots

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[quote="SILVBOWHERE"][quote="NEOXIAN"] Fujitora when are you going to wake up seriously? You think you're isylvers little puppet and have clout because you're 90+ r [/quote] he isnt 90+ he just loves a bit of photoshop on his sceenshots [/quote]
Waaahhhh waaahhhh EQ waaaahhh.

Only one war has ever been purposely given away and prior to that no other guilds bothered to contest the map, why should you have a say if you don't participate? People piss and moan that they want conti but refuse to turn upto a war until devils are on god awful %. Everyone seems to be in agreement that the current % is wank, including EQ so stop the mud slinging.

Hefftobe
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[quote="QUIMM"]Waaahhhh waaahhhh EQ waaaahhh. Only one war has ever been purposely given away and prior to that no other guilds bothered to contest the map, why should you have a say if you don't participate? People piss and moan that they want conti but refuse to turn upto a war until devils are on god awful %. Everyone seems to be in agreement that the current % is wank, including EQ so stop the mud slinging. Hefftobe[/quote]
Its pretty clear Wotw % could use some fixing but thats up the gms.
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[quote="187"]Its pretty clear Wotw % could use some fixing but thats up the gms.[/quote]
No need to discuss.
Fuji has spoken.
If the war is fine for him, it's fine for us all.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]No need to discuss. Fuji has spoken. If the war is fine for him, it's fine for us all. [/quote]
Simply put, unless endgame monsters are in conti that offer something no other monster in another map does that benefits a character like +5 str to blg and +5 str to wbm or 20% higher xp/stats when on conti map, or things like double rested xp gain while in castle and your race owns it, +1 pos for every stat giving monster killed in conti maybe?....

there won't ever be a compulsory need for conti for humans/devils unless the above is implemented or something like it.

devils NEED conti between level 40 and 65/70 after that they dont.
humans NEED conti for 2 days to acquire a full set of epic bone and some apus bows etc with their ridiculously high drop rates after that they don't need conti either.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Simply put, unless endgame monsters are in conti that offer something no other monster in another map does that benefits a character like +5 str to blg and +5 str to wbm or 20% higher xp/stats when on conti map, or things like double rested xp gain while in castle and your race owns it, +1 pos for every stat giving monster killed in conti maybe?.... there won't ever be a compulsory need for conti for humans/devils unless the above is implemented or something like it. devils NEED conti between level 40 and 65/70 after that they dont. humans NEED conti for 2 days to acquire a full set of epic bone and some apus bows etc with their ridiculously high drop rates after that they don't need conti either.[/quote]
Problem with wow is the lack of steady attendance. Can be fixed through:
- Making pos more interesting
- Making the WoW more fun - http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=2239&title=WotW+-+Castle+Assault&Page=1
- Improve conti

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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Problem with wow is the lack of steady attendance. Can be fixed through: - Making pos more interesting - Making the WoW more fun - http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=2239&title=WotW+-+Castle+Assault&Page=1 - Improve conti [/quote]
sorry ghost, POS is now a silly subject as mentioned before some store characters have 6-10 pos pouches stored up so entirely useless as it's too easy to farm.

The castle assault idea is amazing, game changing, really fun and engaging but a HUGE amount of work for finito. long term i'd love to see it implemented, but i fear the dsoma population will be non existant by that point so,

the suggestions i made would make immediate attendance nigh compulsory to attend to get the benefits and are pretty "simple" tweaks on the database isylver can make or 20 minute jobs for finito to fiddle with.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]sorry ghost, POS is now a silly subject as mentioned before some store characters have 6-10 pos pouches stored up so entirely useless as it's too easy to farm. The castle assault idea is amazing, game changing, really fun and engaging but a HUGE amount of work for finito. long term i'd love to see it implemented, but i fear the dsoma population will be non existant by that point so, the suggestions i made would make immediate attendance nigh compulsory to attend to get the benefits and are pretty "simple" tweaks on the database isylver can make or 20 minute jobs for finito to fiddle with.[/quote]
"PLUM"Didn't take long for an anti-Eq accusation to be thrown out, congratulations for that.

I am sure the humans won't hold a grudge that the devils owned conti uncontested for the first 5 weeks, meaning most had to lvl without conti spells. Be nice to have the % back to a reasonable amount for a decent war.
Conti doesn't really require any of these OP benefits to lure players in, just maybe nightmare/blg for humans and wbm for devils.

As for SS, that's really down to non-attendance. Nobody turns up in force to hold stones apart from Eq and a handful of devils. The % is not the real issue there.


just to be clear, what i said to begin was that what i had heard was SPECULATION.. not an accusation. my post was more a culmination of a few views.

but it seems the remaining details have come to light! :P
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[quote="DISCORDEA"][quote="PLUM"]Didn't take long for an anti-Eq accusation to be thrown out, congratulations for that. I am sure the humans won't hold a grudge that the devils owned conti uncontested for the first 5 weeks, meaning most had to lvl without conti spells. Be nice to have the % back to a reasonable amount for a decent war. Conti doesn't really require any of these OP benefits to lure players in, just maybe nightmare/blg for humans and wbm for devils. As for SS, that's really down to non-attendance. Nobody turns up in force to hold stones apart from Eq and a handful of devils. The % is not the real issue there.[/quote] just to be clear, what i said to begin was that what i had heard was SPECULATION.. not an accusation. my post was more a culmination of a few views. but it seems the remaining details have come to light! :P[/quote]
"FUJITORA"% system doesn't need any adjustment at all and is perfectly fine the way it is currently.

If both sides are actively trying to win on every attempt it will balance it self out eventually without any need for any outside interference.


I'm well over level 80 and couldn't do a damn thing only reason I kept running out was because I gave my pos away so I was on -2k which I love being on during crappy wars so people don't score easy 500 stacks from me.

I actually shudder to think what a war like that is like for a devil in the let's say level 50 to 70 range, I was in a party and witnessed someone get 2 hit but I guess that's okay leveling hard to get 2 hit at wars.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="FUJITORA"]% system doesn't need any adjustment at all and is perfectly fine the way it is currently. If both sides are actively trying to win on every attempt it will balance it self out eventually without any need for any outside interference.[/quote] I'm well over level 80 and couldn't do a damn thing only reason I kept running out was because I gave my pos away so I was on -2k which I love being on during crappy wars so people don't score easy 500 stacks from me. I actually shudder to think what a war like that is like for a devil in the let's say level 50 to 70 range, I was in a party and witnessed someone get 2 hit but I guess that's okay leveling hard to get 2 hit at wars. [/quote]
Now that EQ has admitted to fixing the war two weeks ago (regardless of who came before or not, humans should easily have won that war), which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been.

But as I said, if both sides are actively trying to win (Which they arent currently because conti just isnt required for humans really) Then the % will balance itself.

The only thing that I would suggest needs changing is the % should change after every war and not after two successive same results.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Now that EQ has admitted to fixing the war two weeks ago (regardless of who came before or not, humans should easily have won that war), which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been. But as I said, if both sides are actively trying to win (Which they arent currently because conti just isnt required for humans really) Then the % will balance itself. The only thing that I would suggest needs changing is the % should change after every war and not after two successive same results.[/quote]
disagree once again fuji, if it changes every week it will make it so either race can make a coup and boycott war for a few weeks knowing 3 weeks without conti is another 7.5%.

if anything once it is 'balanced' it should be 3 weeks or more that the % should remain the same. After all, if it's 'balanced' why would you want the % to fluctuate every week? this would actually make it more unbalanced and unneccesarily changeable. If the % remains the same for 2 DEFENCES this would actually mean that either race could win it during this period as the % is 'balanced'

Once the % is 'balanced' i don't think it should even change at all, what's going to dramatically change between now and more people hitting cap other than humans gaining more +acc and +eva and devils gaining dramatically more str/dex. most devils are nearing the wis softcap of 90 wis and we won't gain much more magic defence thereafter, most humans are capping int or near abouts on nightmares. it'll be melee gains vs melee gains.

set the devils on 70% and make it so humans WANT conti, isylver send out an email to all subscribers saying that you must get to conti for new mobs/more rested xp... see what happens ^^ i think you may be surprised at what the true % for devils should be.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]disagree once again fuji, if it changes every week it will make it so either race can make a coup and boycott war for a few weeks knowing 3 weeks without conti is another 7.5%. if anything once it is 'balanced' it should be 3 weeks or more that the % should remain the same. After all, if it's 'balanced' why would you want the % to fluctuate every week? this would actually make it more unbalanced and unneccesarily changeable. If the % remains the same for 2 DEFENCES this would actually mean that either race could win it during this period as the % is 'balanced' Once the % is 'balanced' i don't think it should even change at all, what's going to dramatically change between now and more people hitting cap other than humans gaining more +acc and +eva and devils gaining dramatically more str/dex. most devils are nearing the wis softcap of 90 wis and we won't gain much more magic defence thereafter, most humans are capping int or near abouts on nightmares. it'll be melee gains vs melee gains. set the devils on 70% and make it so humans WANT conti, isylver send out an email to all subscribers saying that you must get to conti for new mobs/more rested xp... see what happens ^^ i think you may be surprised at what the true % for devils should be. [/quote]
"FUJITORA"which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been


So you mean I could have been a whole 2.5% better off?! Holy shit lads 2.5% well that's it everything now makes sense it's completely sorted I'll see everyone next week.

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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="FUJITORA"]which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been[/quote] So you mean I could have been a whole 2.5% better off?! Holy shit lads 2.5% well that's it everything now makes sense it's completely sorted I'll see everyone next week. [/quote]
I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?
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[quote="FUJITORA"]I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?[/quote]

 

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