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Put endgame mobs on conti only.

Remove them from VOD/abias and which ever dev map.

Will make the highest lvls always NEED to attend. Will prevent players from increasing the lvl distance between the 'elite' and the others.

As for the inevitable arguement of "then the other race will break away". I dont think they will. The current mechanisms change the %. So i feel regardless of whats happening, this necessity to own conti will make all the "high lvls" try and win conti for their respective race, and thus the entire % balance system will actually work., and I cant see a race owning for more than 2 weeks at a time.

As for "so im just supposed to not hunt for a week if my race doesnt win conti?" - Essentially, yes. For the longevity of the server, it will slow people down hitting the cap, before it is raised again, and increase the importance of one of the essential pvp elements of the game.

Fact is unless something drastic is done like this, there will never be a balance, as the issues arise when the higher lvls no longer feel the need to win conti.

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[quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]Put endgame mobs on conti only. Remove them from VOD/abias and which ever dev map. Will make the highest lvls always NEED to attend. Will prevent players from increasing the lvl distance between the 'elite' and the others. As for the inevitable arguement of "then the other race will break away". I dont think they will. The current mechanisms change the %. So i feel regardless of whats happening, this necessity to own conti will make all the "high lvls" try and win conti for their respective race, and thus the entire % balance system will actually work., and I cant see a race owning for more than 2 weeks at a time. As for "so im just supposed to not hunt for a week if my race doesnt win conti?" - Essentially, yes. For the longevity of the server, it will slow people down hitting the cap, before it is raised again, and increase the importance of one of the essential pvp elements of the game. Fact is unless something drastic is done like this, there will never be a balance, as the issues arise when the higher lvls no longer feel the need to win conti. [/quote]
"FUJITORA"I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?


You maybe right but even then that 2.5% makes little differance
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[quote="RELINA"][quote="FUJITORA"]I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?[/quote] You maybe right but even then that 2.5% makes little differance [/quote]
"FUJITORA"I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?


I'd still turn up no matter what the % was even though I've not needed conti for a long time now and because I have no pos to lose so I don't really care and if I ever had pos I'd make sure it's gone before I show up as seen last war, because If I ever valued my pos there's no way I'd ever show up to that.

Whatever % that was it was completely ridiculous, so I can fully understand when lower levels get frustrated and start posting their frustrations because if devils that are level 75+ onwards can't do sod all what chance do they really have getting 2 hit.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="FUJITORA"]I was merely stating a fact. Am I right or am i mistaken somehow?[/quote] I'd still turn up no matter what the % was even though I've not needed conti for a long time now and because I have no pos to lose so I don't really care and if I ever had pos I'd make sure it's gone before I show up as seen last war, because If I ever valued my pos there's no way I'd ever show up to that. Whatever % that was it was completely ridiculous, so I can fully understand when lower levels get frustrated and start posting their frustrations because if devils that are level 75+ onwards can't do sod all what chance do they really have getting 2 hit. [/quote]
The percentages we currently mingle around at seem to have balanced themselves? Evidence being that neither side win consecutively for very long. - [ actually asking not stating ;o ... ]


"NEOXIAN"
humans NEED conti for 2 days to acquire a full set of epic bone and some apus bows etc with their ridiculously high drop rates after that they don't need conti either.

Also would just like to say that particular statement is complete and utter pish of the highest order and with the upgrade system the way it is you need a lot of these items to make anything decent. To the stage people are going around with +3 upgrades on untagged.hard due to lack of decent bone.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]The percentages we currently mingle around at seem to have balanced themselves? Evidence being that neither side win consecutively for very long. - [ actually asking not stating ;o ... ] [quote="NEOXIAN"] humans NEED conti for [b]2 days to acquire a full set of epic bone[/b] and some apus bows etc with their ridiculously high drop rates after that they don't need conti either.[/quote] Also would just like to say that particular statement is complete and utter pish of the highest order and with the upgrade system the way it is you need a lot of these items to make anything decent. To the stage people are going around with +3 upgrades on untagged.hard due to lack of decent bone.[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"Let me clarify something for Eq,

I've never joined the hype on slating you guys but lets be entirely serious here.

participation in the war, standing in and around safe zone, even going to throne room to score kills for pos and kicks as % is so ridiculously low does not account for anything when you make no effort to stand on stones, and walk off on purpose well documentedly for monster so he could punch conti ab's.

please stop kidding and lying to yourselves, let me reiterate - warping to conti during wotw doesn't directly make you helpful, nor does scoring kills it is the stones that matter, and you guys are more than happy to throw these wars to help friends or benefit yourselves for SS. I no longer participate in RVR as it's pathetic for sub-80 devils now.


i think you find we go week in week out and try but why should eq win the war for ppl who dont try dont show up and all they do is slag eq day in day out. as for SS eq go ss with 10-15 every week i dont see no others in there with that many numbers using team work like us to get pos.

Now that EQ has admitted to fixing the war two weeks ago (regardless of who came before or not, humans should easily have won that war), which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been.

But as I said, if both sides are actively trying to win (Which they arent currently because conti just isnt required for humans really) Then the % will balance itself.

The only thing that I would suggest needs changing is the % should change after every war and not after two successive same results.


i icedog was standing on a stone that war holding it off from 5 devil and all u lot could do is stand there and let me die not one of you help you just wanted the 500 pos for you self coz you just one greedy fker but coz u all left me to die i for fk you lot then and just stop atting devils if you was all bit more helpfully i might of tryed harded and if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late

but who cares about any of that now i icedog will fix wotw for you all just DELETE dsoma and be done with it no 1 shows for gvw just all come over to hsoma and we have a mass pk fight lets say right after hsoma gvw that all sound good to you ?
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[quote="ICEDOG"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Let me clarify something for Eq, I've never joined the hype on slating you guys but lets be entirely serious here. participation in the war, standing in and around safe zone, even going to throne room to score kills for pos and kicks as % is so ridiculously low does not account for anything when you make no effort to stand on stones, and walk off on purpose well documentedly for monster so he could punch conti ab's. please stop kidding and lying to yourselves, let me reiterate - warping to conti during wotw doesn't directly make you helpful, nor does scoring kills it is the stones that matter, and you guys are more than happy to throw these wars to help friends or benefit yourselves for SS. I no longer participate in RVR as it's pathetic for sub-80 devils now.[/quote] i think you find we go week in week out and try but why should eq win the war for ppl who dont try dont show up and all they do is slag eq day in day out. as for SS eq go ss with 10-15 every week i dont see no others in there with that many numbers using team work like us to get pos. [quote=]Now that EQ has admitted to fixing the war two weeks ago (regardless of who came before or not, humans should easily have won that war), which has directly resulted in the % being 2.5% lower than it ever should have been. But as I said, if both sides are actively trying to win (Which they arent currently because conti just isnt required for humans really) Then the % will balance itself. The only thing that I would suggest needs changing is the % should change after every war and not after two successive same results. [/quote] i icedog was standing on a stone that war holding it off from 5 devil and all u lot could do is stand there and let me die not one of you help you just wanted the 500 pos for you self coz you just one greedy fker but coz u all left me to die i for fk you lot then and just stop atting devils if you was all bit more helpfully i might of tryed harded and if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late but who cares about any of that now i icedog will fix wotw for you all just DELETE dsoma and be done with it no 1 shows for gvw just all come over to hsoma and we have a mass pk fight lets say right after hsoma gvw that all sound good to you ? [/quote]
Hello Icedog.

Seriously - how do you type like that?
My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Hello Icedog. Seriously - how do you type like that? My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.[/quote]
"ICEDOG"if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late


Quimm admitted EQ fixed the war earlier in the thread btw, might want to get your story straight first.
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[quote="BOOS_"][quote="ICEDOG"]if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late [/quote] Quimm admitted EQ fixed the war earlier in the thread btw, might want to get your story straight first.[/quote]
"BOOS_"
"ICEDOG"if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late


Quimm admitted EQ fixed the war earlier in the thread btw, might want to get your story straight first.


Waaahhhh waaahhhh EQ waaaahhh.

Only one war has ever been purposely given away and prior to that no other guilds bothered to contest the map, why should you have a say if you don't participate? People piss and moan that they want conti but refuse to turn upto a war until devils are on god awful %. Everyone seems to be in agreement that the current % is wank, including EQ so stop the mud slinging.

Hefftobe


i think you find he said ONE WAR he never said what one tho am sure there has been more then ONE WAR ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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[quote="ICEDOG"][quote="BOOS_"][quote="ICEDOG"]if you was all looking when orange miss clicks off the stone one of you could of got on but there we go again you was all so greedy hoping for that pos from devils death you did not see monster get on till it was to late [/quote] Quimm admitted EQ fixed the war earlier in the thread btw, might want to get your story straight first.[/quote] [quote=] Waaahhhh waaahhhh EQ waaaahhh. Only one war has ever been purposely given away and prior to that no other guilds bothered to contest the map, why should you have a say if you don't participate? People piss and moan that they want conti but refuse to turn upto a war until devils are on god awful %. Everyone seems to be in agreement that the current % is wank, including EQ so stop the mud slinging. Hefftobe [/quote] i think you find he said ONE WAR he never said what one tho am sure there has been more then ONE WAR ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????[/quote]
Even if it was only one war which it wasnt, dont you think that might have something to do with other humans trying to get you off stone?
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[quote="LUTHER"]Even if it was only one war which it wasnt, dont you think that might have something to do with other humans trying to get you off stone?[/quote]
Another thread of EQ hate from retards being butthurt about something.
MWA an EQ member going into any thread atm

"IPHIOS"Hello Icedog.

Seriously - how do you type like that?
My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.



Nothing about the fucking topic of wotw %, just personal attacks at any member on EQ.
But i will translate that for you iph since you are a mong.

"NERTHIN ERBERT DA FERCKIN TERPERC ERF WERTW %, JERST PERSERNERL ERTERCKS ERT ERNER MERMBER ERN EQ"

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[quote="NIBIRU"]Another thread of EQ hate from retards being butthurt about something. MWA an EQ member going into any thread atm [img]http://i.imgur.com/rTAHOjN.gif[/img] [quote="IPHIOS"]Hello Icedog. Seriously - how do you type like that? My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.[/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/yrkHw5M.gif[/img] Nothing about the fucking topic of wotw %, just personal attacks at any member on EQ. But i will translate that for you iph since you are a mong. "NERTHIN ERBERT DA FERCKIN TERPERC ERF WERTW %, JERST PERSERNERL ERTERCKS ERT ERNER MERMBER ERN EQ" [/quote]
"NIBIRU"
"IPHIOS"Hello Icedog.

Seriously - how do you type like that?
My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.



Nothing about the fucking topic of wotw %, just personal attacks at any member on EQ.
But i will translate that for you iph since you are a mong.

"NERTHIN ERBERT DA FERCKIN TERPERC ERF WERTW %, JERST PERSERNERL ERTERCKS ERT ERNER MERMBER ERN EQ"



Personal attacks would suggest it personally offended me or even stirred the slightest emotion. It didn't.
Just worried that he may have something of incredible value to say but it cannot be read when written in that manner. I understood CEO's leaving post better.
Thanks for your translation - easier to understand. However i disagree - I'm more bored of the anti EQ threads than most.
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[quote="IPHIOS"][quote="NIBIRU"] [quote="IPHIOS"]Hello Icedog. Seriously - how do you type like that? My eyes genuinely can't suffer it.[/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/yrkHw5M.gif[/img] Nothing about the fucking topic of wotw %, just personal attacks at any member on EQ. But i will translate that for you iph since you are a mong. "NERTHIN ERBERT DA FERCKIN TERPERC ERF WERTW %, JERST PERSERNERL ERTERCKS ERT ERNER MERMBER ERN EQ" [/quote] Personal attacks would suggest it personally offended me or even stirred the slightest emotion. It didn't. Just worried that he may have something of incredible value to say but it cannot be read when written in that manner. I understood CEO's leaving post better. Thanks for your translation - easier to understand. However i disagree - I'm more bored of the anti EQ threads than most.[/quote]
"IPHIOS"

Personal attacks would suggest it personally offended me or even stirred the slightest emotion. It didn't.
Just worried that he may have something of incredible value to say but it cannot be read when written in that manner. I understood CEO's leaving post better.
Thanks for your translation - easier to understand. However i disagree - I'm more bored of the anti EQ threads than most.


Well you posted, so that shows its stirred you up emotionally to the extent of posting about it, and if you are bored of it the shut the fuck up and post about something on topic next time.
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[quote="NIBIRU"][quote="IPHIOS"] Personal attacks would suggest it personally offended me or even stirred the slightest emotion. It didn't. Just worried that he may have something of incredible value to say but it cannot be read when written in that manner. I understood CEO's leaving post better. Thanks for your translation - easier to understand. However i disagree - I'm more bored of the anti EQ threads than most.[/quote] Well you posted, so that shows its stirred you up emotionally to the extent of posting about it, and if you are bored of it the shut the fuck up and post about something on topic next time. [/quote]
Can't post emotionally to something you don't understand.
Be different if I scoured the internet for a little funny clip and started calling him names. I would sound upset in that instance. But instead I wrote what I wrote.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Can't post emotionally to something you don't understand. Be different if I scoured the internet for a little funny clip and started calling him names. I would sound upset in that instance. But instead I wrote what I wrote. [/quote]
"NIBIRU"
Well you posted, so that shows its stirred you up emotionally to the extent of posting about it, and if you are bored of it the shut the fuck up and post about something on topic next time.


Well done on keeping it on topic.

When EQ can take some of their own advice maybe people will take their points seriously and stop flaming them.

oh and another EQ favorite - Post on your main you nub!

still cant believe JSA pays for the likes of this.

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[quote="CHAKRA"][quote="NIBIRU"] Well you posted, so that shows its stirred you up emotionally to the extent of posting about it, and if you are bored of it the shut the fuck up and post about something on topic next time. [/quote] Well done on keeping it on topic. When EQ can take some of their own advice maybe people will take their points seriously and stop flaming them. oh and another EQ favorite - Post on your main you nub! still cant believe JSA pays for the likes of this. [/quote]
"IPHIOS"The percentages we currently mingle around at seem to have balanced themselves? Evidence being that neither side win consecutively for very long. - [ actually asking not stating ;o ... ]


No, and that's the reason for threads like this.
The outcome of a war is not what the % should be based around,
It should be based on the damage each race does to each other.

Being 2 or 3 hit by most of hsoma, and then getting a lucky miss-click off the stone so we win is not a reason to then reduce our % further.

The war is about the actual event, it should be fun to participate, as it stands, we require 5 high end Devils to possibly kill 1 high end human, and we are outnumbered as it is.

I've seen the damage we do to you guys when EQ were on devil conti, your on lower %, we're on 100%, and is most definitely pottable with 100s.

We are kept on such shit % with weak arguments, but when we test our dmg it goes ignored.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="IPHIOS"]The percentages we currently mingle around at seem to have balanced themselves? Evidence being that neither side win consecutively for very long. - [ actually asking not stating ;o ... ][/quote] No, and that's the reason for threads like this. The outcome of a war is not what the % should be based around, It should be based on the damage each race does to each other. Being 2 or 3 hit by most of hsoma, and then getting a lucky miss-click off the stone so we win is not a reason to then reduce our % further. The war is about the actual event, it should be fun to participate, as it stands, we require 5 high end Devils to possibly kill 1 high end human, and we are outnumbered as it is. I've seen the damage we do to you guys when EQ were on devil conti, your on lower %, we're on 100%, and is most definitely pottable with 100s. We are kept on such shit % with weak arguments, but when we test our dmg it goes ignored.[/quote]

 

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