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"MERLIN"While pk mode is on I was lucky to get 15 minutes into a hunt before mutiny came to pk me - on my axer a lot of the time it was archers that couldn't easily kill me just wanted to stop me levelling, if I didnt react they rinsed my pots, if I did they wouldn't try attack they would jus run until I went back to hunt and would repeat the process over and over-thats not pvp its pathetic 30 something yo acting like a child and there is no solution to it If they are hitting you they don't know your HP they're eventually going to kill you even if they did come to kill you within 15 mins after they kill you twice that's still 45mins of hunting in peace (if they come back straight after 30mins) 2 mins spent resi Barr farming for 45mins of peaceful hunting seems more than fair to me, why should people who play for Pvp have it even worse than it already is. Thats not even taking into account the Barr you make in them 45 mins of hunting, almost all mobs seem to drop loads of Barr past level 90 By "choosing when to PvP" on the DSoma side it's Encore/DL more than happy to PK for sometimes hours on end when it's 8vs3-4 in their favour. Yet they can only compete when DL are logged on to help out, so once DL head back to Hsoma encore are back on forum asking for more PvP nerfs. Just have a look through any of the "pk rule changes" threads, the only people I can see asking for nerf after nerfs are a select few from Encore and a few humans who bring the PK on themselves in the first place by the way they act Ingame/forums; buffy/lupiscus
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]While pk mode is on I was lucky to get 15 minutes into a hunt before mutiny came to pk me - on my axer a lot of the time it was archers that couldn't easily kill me just wanted to stop me levelling, if I didnt react they rinsed my pots, if I did they wouldn't try attack they would jus run until I went back to hunt and would repeat the process over and over-thats not pvp its pathetic 30 something yo acting like a child and there is no solution to it
The fact that several logged in jus to pos me to see if I was online throughout day and night says all you need to know about some folk
The majority do enjoy pk/pvp myself included, i have pk fights with tedz0r almost daily and it's all good fun,
What people dont like is someone that has opportunity to spend 16 hours a day online capping with 2 weeks then stopping others from hunting with the ability to 2/3 hit them, this isnt pvp it's just sad boosting of a fudged k/d and if they're giving the kills away as this 2 ok rule forces theb you cant try spin it as enjoying pvp aa there isnt any there
And people saying some 'choose'when to pvp its generally when they get into a decent level range [/quote]
If they are hitting you they don't know your HP they're eventually going to kill you
even if they did come to kill you within 15 mins after they kill you twice that's still 45mins of hunting in peace (if they come back straight after 30mins)
2 mins spent resi Barr farming for 45mins of peaceful hunting seems more than fair to me, why should people who play for Pvp have it even worse than it already is.
Thats not even taking into account the Barr you make in them 45 mins of hunting, almost all mobs seem to drop loads of Barr past level 90
By "choosing when to PvP" on the DSoma side it's Encore/DL more than happy to PK for sometimes hours on end when it's 8vs3-4 in their favour. Yet they can only compete when DL are logged on to help out, so once DL head back to Hsoma encore are back on forum asking for more PvP nerfs.
Just have a look through any of the "pk rule changes" threads, the only people I can see asking for nerf after nerfs are a select few from Encore and a few humans who bring the PK on themselves in the first place by the way they act Ingame/forums; buffy/lupiscus[/quote]
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#61 2018/08/01 02:57:44 |
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The only 2 other people on this thread agreeing to have further nerfs - Foxtrick and Alexisonfire.
Foxtrick - store char no idea who he is. Alexisonfire - level 110 (500+ hours game time?) 14 deaths total. How carebear is soma becoming when you have people who have been killed 14x over 110 levels and they are saying the PvP should be nerfed even more
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[quote="SAM0"]The only 2 other people on this thread agreeing to have further nerfs - Foxtrick and Alexisonfire.
Foxtrick - store char no idea who he is.
Alexisonfire - level 110 (500+ hours game time?) 14 deaths total.
How carebear is soma becoming when you have people who have been killed 14x over 110 levels and they are saying the PvP should be nerfed even more
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#62 2018/08/01 04:08:04 |
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You keep calling ppl carebare, dosnt change the fact that some ppl dont have a job and can play 16 hours a day where as some ppl do have a job and only get on for 6 hours, to then get hounded for those 6 hours wilst the person that dosnt have a job can go back to levelling for the other 10 hours
If everyones hours ingame was the same (Like bk in esoma when we was all around 16 and in school) the fair play let's bring bk the old pk rules The fact that some can play only a couple hours in the evening and fall behind those that can play 16 hours a day dosnt mean they should then just take deaths to hunt in peace to fuel the person with no jobs ego. Everyone plays how they want, stop trying to force them to pvp, soma not just a pvp game, there's plenty other parts of soma also The GM are just trying to find the middle ground, that's what the changes to pk are trying to achive
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]You keep calling ppl carebare, dosnt change the fact that some ppl dont have a job and can play 16 hours a day where as some ppl do have a job and only get on for 6 hours, to then get hounded for those 6 hours wilst the person that dosnt have a job can go back to levelling for the other 10 hours
If everyones hours ingame was the same (Like bk in esoma when we was all around 16 and in school) the fair play let's bring bk the old pk rules
The fact that some can play only a couple hours in the evening and fall behind those that can play 16 hours a day dosnt mean they should then just take deaths to hunt in peace to fuel the person with no jobs ego.
Everyone plays how they want, stop trying to force them to pvp, soma not just a pvp game, there's plenty other parts of soma also
The GM are just trying to find the middle ground, that's what the changes to pk are trying to achive[/quote]
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#63 2018/08/01 04:39:20 |
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Mutiny have plenty of characters being logged for gvw by hsoma folk, if their mates cba to help them out for pk that's fine but dont complain if one side is willing to help each other out, other day I had 3 archers chasing my one mage round, when I got a few to log they traced and I think it became 4/5 vs 3, then the wave of abuse and crying came at us about being unfair numbers
If you genuinely were a fan of pvp why did you stop logging in when everyone caught up and the easy kills were no longer available to you, and if you're killing someone that doesnt retaliate that ain't pvp, you're as bad as bevan greiffing his noob to buff his kd
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[quote="MERLIN"]Mutiny have plenty of characters being logged for gvw by hsoma folk, if their mates cba to help them out for pk that's fine but dont complain if one side is willing to help each other out, other day I had 3 archers chasing my one mage round, when I got a few to log they traced and I think it became 4/5 vs 3, then the wave of abuse and crying came at us about being unfair numbers
If you genuinely were a fan of pvp why did you stop logging in when everyone caught up and the easy kills were no longer available to you, and if you're killing someone that doesnt retaliate that ain't pvp, you're as bad as bevan greiffing his noob to buff his kd[/quote]
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#64 2018/08/01 05:25:19 |
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This isn’t about the biggest guilds in Soma. Nor is it about how many times any one char has been PKed. Dsoma is different to Hsoma. But you would be foolish as a GM to force people into pking at end game. It still is an MMO. People like the gear challenge and as I say the journey. As I keep saying now. PvP needs to be shoved into actual PvP not just roam onto whoever you like that’s 90+ No one has asked pk to be removed and no one has said they shouldn’t be attacked but k/d encourages moronic behaviour. Just like the player feed and pk history can only encourage players to act this way.
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Sam0
This isn’t about the biggest guilds in Soma. Nor is it about how many times any one char has been PKed. Dsoma is different to Hsoma.
But you would be foolish as a GM to force people into pking at end game. It still is an MMO. People like the gear challenge and as I say the journey. As I keep saying now. PvP needs to be shoved into actual PvP not just roam onto whoever you like that’s 90+
No one has asked pk to be removed and no one has said they shouldn’t be attacked but k/d encourages moronic behaviour. Just like the player feed and pk history can only encourage players to act this way.[/quote]
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#65 2018/08/01 08:24:40 |
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Sam0 mate you keep ignoring all the valid points and repeating yourself, log your main and post don't keep posting from a store char.
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#66 2018/08/01 11:40:26 |
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"JAHEIRA"You keep calling ppl carebare, dosnt change the fact that some ppl dont have a job and can play 16 hours a day where as some ppl do have a job and only get on for 6 hours, to then get hounded for those 6 hours wilst the person that dosnt have a job can go back to levelling for the other 10 hours Agreed some people have more time to play than others, even someone like you say who can only play 6 hours a day would still only needs to resi Barr farm for 15mins to afford resis for them 6 hours. I'm not trying to force people to PvP, I'm saying it's a massively PvP based mmo that's being destroy by the carebears. The way I see it the PK system was the same way for 15? YEARS. If anything the select few who are asking for nerf after nerf are the ones that are forcing PvP players to play their way. While the PvP players are playing the game the way it was designed
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="JAHEIRA"]You keep calling ppl carebare, dosnt change the fact that some ppl dont have a job and can play 16 hours a day where as some ppl do have a job and only get on for 6 hours, to then get hounded for those 6 hours wilst the person that dosnt have a job can go back to levelling for the other 10 hours
If everyones hours ingame was the same (Like bk in esoma when we was all around 16 and in school) the fair play let's bring bk the old pk rules
The fact that some can play only a couple hours in the evening and fall behind those that can play 16 hours a day dosnt mean they should then just take deaths to hunt in peace to fuel the person with no jobs ego.
Everyone plays how they want, stop trying to force them to pvp, soma not just a pvp game, there's plenty other parts of soma also
The GM are just trying to find the middle ground, that's what the changes to pk are trying to achive[/quote]
Agreed some people have more time to play than others, even someone like you say who can only play 6 hours a day would still only needs to resi Barr farm for 15mins to afford resis for them 6 hours.
I'm not trying to force people to PvP, I'm saying it's a massively PvP based mmo that's being destroy by the carebears.
The way I see it the PK system was the same way for 15? YEARS. If anything the select few who are asking for nerf after nerf are the ones that are forcing PvP players to play their way. While the PvP players are playing the game the way it was designed
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#67 2018/08/01 13:23:14 |
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"FOXTRCK"Sam0 It's not all about the biggest guilds in the server no, but when they make a big majority of the server user count I still see their opinion as valid. It's definitely about how many times someone has been killed tho. Why should a level 110 char with 500/600/700 hours game time get to say "PK should be nerfed more" when he's had 0 kills 14 deaths meaning he doesn't even really take part in PK. Edit: Just realised your not a store char.. 0 kills 13 deaths good to see your PK nerf suggestions are coming from someone with experience
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="FOXTRCK"]Sam0
This isn’t about the biggest guilds in Soma. Nor is it about how many times any one char has been PKed. Dsoma is different to Hsoma.
But you would be foolish as a GM to force people into pking at end game. It still is an MMO. People like the gear challenge and as I say the journey. As I keep saying now. PvP needs to be shoved into actual PvP not just roam onto whoever you like that’s 90+
No one has asked pk to be removed and no one has said they shouldn’t be attacked but k/d encourages moronic behaviour. Just like the player feed and pk history can only encourage players to act this way.[/quote]
It's not all about the biggest guilds in the server no, but when they make a big majority of the server user count I still see their opinion as valid.
It's definitely about how many times someone has been killed tho. Why should a level 110 char with 500/600/700 hours game time get to say "PK should be nerfed more" when he's had 0 kills 14 deaths meaning he doesn't even really take part in PK.
Edit: Just realised your not a store char.. 0 kills 13 deaths good to see your PK nerf suggestions are coming from someone with experience [/quote]
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#68 2018/08/01 13:27:16 |
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1256 hours in game, get it right :P
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#69 2018/08/01 13:37:25 |
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Also if you read back through, I never said it should be nerfed.
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#70 2018/08/01 13:42:11 |
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"ALEXISONFIRE"1256 hours in game, get it right :P Haha wow so you've killed someone 0 times and died once for every 100 hours Ingame time almost and you still think pk needs to be nerfed? You +1'd buffys post saying PK immunity should be changed from 30 to 120 mins
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]1256 hours in game, get it right :P
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Haha wow so you've killed someone 0 times and died once for every 100 hours Ingame time almost and you still think pk needs to be nerfed?
You +1'd buffys post saying PK immunity should be changed from 30 to 120 mins [/quote]
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#71 2018/08/01 13:42:22 |
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Are you special or something Sam0?
What makes you think, the people playing that are not 110, that are either crafters, casuals, whatever, should just accept 2 deaths every 30 minutes, most of the time not even 1v1 because we need to fill someone's ego? Be different if anyone could legitimately fight back. Anyway you've lost all sense of a constructive argument and have resorted to petty responses. So I think we've concluded this from my perspective.
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Are you special or something Sam0?
What makes you think, the people playing that are not 110, that are either crafters, casuals, whatever, should just accept 2 deaths every 30 minutes, most of the time not even 1v1 because we need to fill someone's ego?
Be different if anyone could legitimately fight back.
Anyway you've lost all sense of a constructive argument and have resorted to petty responses. So I think we've concluded this from my perspective.[/quote]
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#72 2018/08/01 13:47:46 |
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"FOXTRCK"Are you special or something Sam0? This is a PvP based mmo. If people want to go and PK you every 30 mins then they should be allowed to, the games already catered to the carebears so much already. Although they are not killing you every 30 mins as your 0-13. So why asking for further nerfs? Whats petty about saying that people that clearly don't take part in PK or are not victims of excessive Pking should have no right in asking for more nerfs? I dont craft in soma, I wouldn't ask for crafting rates to be made 4x slower and bones 4x less drop rate. Why should two people who don't PK or are not being killed either get to influence Gms decision towards more nerfs to PK mode
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="FOXTRCK"]Are you special or something Sam0?
What makes you think, the people playing that are not 110, that are either crafters, casuals, whatever, should just accept 2 deaths every 30 minutes, most of the time not even 1v1 because we need to fill someone's ego?
Be different if anyone could legitimately fight back.
Anyway you've lost all sense of a constructive argument and have resorted to petty responses. So I think we've concluded this from my perspective.[/quote]
This is a PvP based mmo.
If people want to go and PK you every 30 mins then they should be allowed to, the games already catered to the carebears so much already.
Although they are not killing you every 30 mins as your 0-13. So why asking for further nerfs?
Whats petty about saying that people that clearly don't take part in PK or are not victims of excessive Pking should have no right in asking for more nerfs?
I dont craft in soma, I wouldn't ask for crafting rates to be made 4x slower and bones 4x less drop rate. Why should two people who don't PK or are not being killed either get to influence Gms decision towards more nerfs to PK mode[/quote]
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#73 2018/08/01 13:54:26 |
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No, its a grind MMO and a RPG at that.
You're being completely selective in your responses so I don't think this is going to go anywhere... bye |
#74 2018/08/01 13:59:19 |
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"FOXTRCK"No, its a grind MMO and a RPG at that. That's fine. All my points are valid and you've yet to answer any of them, it's very difficult to argue with the facts that you or Alexisonfire don't take part in any PK (giving or receiving) yet comment that it should be nerfed more Bye (:
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="FOXTRCK"]No, its a grind MMO and a RPG at that.
You're being completely selective in you're responses so I don't think this is going to go anywhere... bye
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That's fine. All my points are valid and you've yet to answer any of them, it's very difficult to argue with the facts that you or Alexisonfire don't take part in any PK (giving or receiving) yet comment that it should be nerfed more
Bye (:[/quote]
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#75 2018/08/01 14:01:44 |
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