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FOXTRCK |
Have you ever thought that its because its not JUST a game about killing people, or specifically about PKing?
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#76 2018/08/01 14:03:18 |
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ALEXISONFIRE |
Ah I think I’ve worked this out Fox, Sam0 here needs to justify his self worth by running around killing everyone he wants. He can’t seem to grasp that with it being an MMO that there are other factors to why people play the game, for example you enjoy the social aspect of the game, organising community events on hsoma in an inclusive manner so EVERYONE who wants to be involved can without the experience being disrupted.
I like grinding for the gear, I’m well enough geared to drop a level 80 in a couple of hits before they know what’s going on, but I don’t because it’s not fair and quite honestly a douchey thing to do. I’d rather help people out (I regularly invite people to come hit my mobs, or invite them to mags so they can get items). It’s an mmo, to me that means the social side should be what is prevalent. I have no objection with PKing, as sam0 keeps stating it is part of the game. But maybe he hasn’t grasped that the reason I’ve only been killed 14 times is because I’m fair and friendly with everyone, I don’t have an ego and try to help out others where I can, therefore the people that do pk leave me alone. Tldr; I have a good reputation human side so pkers don’t go for me.
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Ah I think I’ve worked this out Fox, Sam0 here needs to justify his self worth by running around killing everyone he wants. He can’t seem to grasp that with it being an MMO that there are other factors to why people play the game, for example you enjoy the social aspect of the game, organising community events on hsoma in an inclusive manner so EVERYONE who wants to be involved can without the experience being disrupted.
I like grinding for the gear, I’m well enough geared to drop a level 80 in a couple of hits before they know what’s going on, but I don’t because it’s not fair and quite honestly a douchey thing to do. I’d rather help people out (I regularly invite people to come hit my mobs, or invite them to mags so they can get items).
It’s an mmo, to me that means the social side should be what is prevalent.
I have no objection with PKing, as sam0 keeps stating it is part of the game. But maybe he hasn’t grasped that the reason I’ve only been killed 14 times is because I’m fair and friendly with everyone, I don’t have an ego and try to help out others where I can, therefore the people that do pk leave me alone.
Tldr; I have a good reputation human side so pkers don’t go for me. [/quote]
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#77 2018/08/01 14:11:45 |
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"ALEXISONFIRE"Ah I think I’ve worked this out Fox, Sam0 here needs to justify his self worth by running around killing everyone he wants. He can’t seem to grasp that with it being an MMO that there are other factors to why people play the game, for example you enjoy the social aspect of the game, organising community events on hsoma in an inclusive manner so EVERYONE who wants to be involved can without the experience being disrupted. Nice post, could of helped fox out abit more by answering why 2 players who don't take part in PK, feel they should be able to influence Gms decision towards nerfing it more tho Previous carebear changes mean you'd not of been able to kill said level 80 even if you wanted to due to level restrictions :(
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Ah I think I’ve worked this out Fox, Sam0 here needs to justify his self worth by running around killing everyone he wants. He can’t seem to grasp that with it being an MMO that there are other factors to why people play the game, for example you enjoy the social aspect of the game, organising community events on hsoma in an inclusive manner so EVERYONE who wants to be involved can without the experience being disrupted.
I like grinding for the gear, I’m well enough geared to drop a level 80 in a couple of hits before they know what’s going on, but I don’t because it’s not fair and quite honestly a douchey thing to do. I’d rather help people out (I regularly invite people to come hit my mobs, or invite them to mags so they can get items).
It’s an mmo, to me that means the social side should be what is prevalent.
I have no objection with PKing, as sam0 keeps stating it is part of the game. But maybe he hasn’t grasped that the reason I’ve only been killed 14 times is because I’m fair and friendly with everyone, I don’t have an ego and try to help out others where I can, therefore the people that do pk leave me alone.
Tldr; I have a good reputation human side so pkers don’t go for me. [/quote]
Nice post, could of helped fox out abit more by answering why 2 players who don't take part in PK, feel they should be able to influence Gms decision towards nerfing it more tho
Previous carebear changes mean you'd not of been able to kill said level 80 even if you wanted to due to level restrictions :([/quote]
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#78 2018/08/01 14:19:47 |
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CARNAGE |
Just best off accepting this isn't a pvp game like quite a few have a long time ago, plenty of good games out there where players don't cry when they're killed. Don't take offence, it's just you're fighting a losing battle. Pvp is only going to diminish further until it's nonexistent, which seems to be the general goal.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]Just best off accepting this isn't a pvp game like quite a few have a long time ago, plenty of good games out there where players don't cry when they're killed. Don't take offence, it's just you're fighting a losing battle. Pvp is only going to diminish further until it's nonexistent, which seems to be the general goal. [/quote]
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#79 2018/08/01 14:24:38 |
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JAHEIRA |
The difference is pve players dont involve other players where as pkers need ppl to pk
I wouldn't want pk system changed anymore (maybe a removal of archer trace user So ppl can hide) And I wouldn't die in order to get 30 mins free pk, so I'd fight back or warp, if i moved spawn and the pkers come for me again id just log out, carry on over a few days and then there's basicly no point playing
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]The difference is pve players dont involve other players where as pkers need ppl to pk
I wouldn't want pk system changed anymore (maybe a removal of archer trace user So ppl can hide)
And I wouldn't die in order to get 30 mins free pk, so I'd fight back or warp, if i moved spawn and the pkers come for me again id just log out, carry on over a few days and then there's basicly no point playing
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#80 2018/08/01 14:24:59 |
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ALEXISONFIRE |
Because (and I can only answer from human side) a majority of people don’t really care about pk. It’s just the handful.
I know on Dsoma pk is a bigger thing, but on hsoma it’s not that big a thing, but from what I have seen is that all it does is slows downs people’s ability to level up so that it is a fair fight. I was hunting blg when the whole DL vs VK thing was at its most intense, and people just couldn’t hunt as they were constantly getting chased away by capped players. Admityly this was before the whole 2 kill thing. But I can’t see what joy or excitement you’d get from wanting to kill someone that 1). Can’t effectivly fight back and 2) just lets you have 2 free kills. Seems like you’re just wasting your time and seems a bit pathetic in my humble opinion.
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Because (and I can only answer from human side) a majority of people don’t really care about pk. It’s just the handful.
I know on Dsoma pk is a bigger thing, but on hsoma it’s not that big a thing, but from what I have seen is that all it does is slows downs people’s ability to level up so that it is a fair fight.
I was hunting blg when the whole DL vs VK thing was at its most intense, and people just couldn’t hunt as they were constantly getting chased away by capped players. Admityly this was before the whole 2 kill thing. But I can’t see what joy or excitement you’d get from wanting to kill someone that 1). Can’t effectivly fight back and 2) just lets you have 2 free kills. Seems like you’re just wasting your time and seems a bit pathetic in my humble opinion. [/quote]
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#81 2018/08/01 14:29:09 |
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CYA |
see for reference wagawaga & tedz0r
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#82 2018/08/01 14:45:31 |
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DEAMOND |
"ALEXISONFIRE"Because (and I can only answer from human side) a majority of people don’t really care about pk. It’s just the handful. I think alex has summed it up nicely. The problem is: 1) You have capped players who only play for GVW/PK -some of these have a fair amount of time on their hands and only log on to pk. 2) You have people that don't have a lot of time on their hands, And just want to level in peace and will accept 2 deaths because the other player is a higher level than them and cannot compete. 3) You have people that don't want to feed the "feed" - Like last night when 3 DL came for me, I could of let them kill me twice and carry on hunting instead i warped and decided to call it a night because they'll soon gloat about the feed. - If they didn't come for me i would of been on for some more time but this is part of the game so no moaning intended here. 3) Imo PK happens a shed load on this server compared to my memories on esoma. Personally i welcomed the change , I used to get griefed by EQ back when the server first started they forced me to quit, stopped playing for over 3 years - came back low and behold mr alakazam started griefing me making it extremely difficult to hunt. (At one point i stopped playing and wondered if there was any point of coming back) (The problem is not with the PK mode it is with the PLAYERS) Some of them act 12 and don't know when to stop. For example - I won't mention names but someone politely asked me to stop pking them - We talked - And I no longer pk them because i understand what they said and the impact it was having.
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[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Because (and I can only answer from human side) a majority of people don’t really care about pk. It’s just the handful.
I know on Dsoma pk is a bigger thing, but on hsoma it’s not that big a thing, but from what I have seen is that all it does is slows downs people’s ability to level up so that it is a fair fight.
I was hunting blg when the whole DL vs VK thing was at its most intense, and people just couldn’t hunt as they were constantly getting chased away by capped players. Admityly this was before the whole 2 kill thing. But I can’t see what joy or excitement you’d get from wanting to kill someone that 1). Can’t effectivly fight back and 2) just lets you have 2 free kills. Seems like you’re just wasting your time and seems a bit pathetic in my humble opinion. [/quote]
I think alex has summed it up nicely.
The problem is:
1) You have capped players who only play for GVW/PK -some of these have a fair amount of time on their hands and only log on to pk.
2) You have people that don't have a lot of time on their hands, And just want to level in peace and will accept 2 deaths because the other player is a higher level than them and cannot compete.
3) You have people that don't want to feed the "feed" - Like last night when 3 DL came for me, I could of let them kill me twice and carry on hunting instead i warped and decided to call it a night because they'll soon gloat about the feed. - If they didn't come for me i would of been on for some more time but this is part of the game so no moaning intended here.
3) Imo PK happens a shed load on this server compared to my memories on esoma.
Personally i welcomed the change , I used to get griefed by EQ back when the server first started they forced me to quit, stopped playing for over 3 years - came back low and behold mr alakazam started griefing me making it extremely difficult to hunt. (At one point i stopped playing and wondered if there was any point of coming back) (The problem is not with the PK mode it is with the PLAYERS) Some of them act 12 and don't know when to stop.
For example - I won't mention names but someone politely asked me to stop pking them - We talked - And I no longer pk them because i understand what they said and the impact it was having. [/quote]
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#83 2018/08/01 14:53:42 |
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"CARNAGE"Just best off accepting this isn't a pvp game like quite a few have a long time ago, plenty of good games out there where players don't cry when they're killed. Don't take offence, it's just you're fighting a losing battle. Pvp is only going to diminish further until it's nonexistent, which seems to be the general goal. Yup I can also see PK taking more nerfs and it's a shame because alot of people don't want it. Alot of people already quit once the "2pk rule" came in. Gms can only go off the feedback they're given tho and not enough players who want PK to remain voice their opinion. Gms will see myself and tyrese voting for no more PK nerfs. They will see Slayer buffy lupiscus Alexisonfire Foxtrick voting for more nerfs. Even tho buffy/lupiscus bring deaths upon themselves with the way they act on forums/Ingame and Alexisonfire and Foxtrick who have never had any part in PK at all. All Gms will see is 2 people asking for no nerfs 5-6 people asking for nerfs
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="CARNAGE"]Just best off accepting this isn't a pvp game like quite a few have a long time ago, plenty of good games out there where players don't cry when they're killed. Don't take offence, it's just you're fighting a losing battle. Pvp is only going to diminish further until it's nonexistent, which seems to be the general goal. [/quote]
Yup I can also see PK taking more nerfs and it's a shame because alot of people don't want it. Alot of people already quit once the "2pk rule" came in.
Gms can only go off the feedback they're given tho and not enough players who want PK to remain voice their opinion.
Gms will see myself and tyrese voting for no more PK nerfs.
They will see Slayer buffy lupiscus Alexisonfire Foxtrick voting for more nerfs.
Even tho buffy/lupiscus bring deaths upon themselves with the way they act on forums/Ingame and Alexisonfire and Foxtrick who have never had any part in PK at all.
All Gms will see is 2 people asking for no nerfs 5-6 people asking for nerfs
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#84 2018/08/01 14:54:31 |
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FOXTRCK |
Antagonistic and worthless post.
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#85 2018/08/01 14:57:17 |
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SUBXERO |
Anyone who keeps saying soma is a “pvp” game is a retard.
It has pvp in it yes buts not a pvp game like CS where that is all you do i.e player vs player killing each other You can craft Gather Mine items Level multiple char builds Group hunts Upgrade items Trade etc So much to do in this...MMORPG Pvp is 1 part of it (my fav part btw) In my opinion pk is fine you can hunt if you want. But your “precious” kdr means so much then thats your choice to warp
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[quote="SUBXERO"]Anyone who keeps saying soma is a “pvp” game is a retard.
It has pvp in it yes buts not a pvp game like CS where that is all you do i.e player vs player killing each other
You can craft
Gather
Mine items
Level multiple char builds
Group hunts
Upgrade items
Trade etc
So much to do in this...MMORPG
Pvp is 1 part of it (my fav part btw)
In my opinion pk is fine you can hunt if you want. But your “precious” kdr means so much then thats your choice to warp
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#86 2018/08/01 15:15:10 |
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CYA |
no more nerfs
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#87 2018/08/01 15:15:13 |
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CARNAGE |
I've been playing a lot of pvp heavy games because I like pvp, soma is not a pvp game.
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#88 2018/08/01 15:19:15 |
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Sam0 Davy mate, Just because someone has a low number of deaths on the KD score, doesn't mean they haven't been chased by people trying to PK, hunts ruined, evenings ruined where they want to just come on and relax killing some mobs only to be chased off and put in a worse mood then they were in originally.
I personally stopped playing for over a year because every single time I logged on I got chased by tong, still got screenies from it "why dont you just warp". Lisa_arlene had the same thing, tong used to run to shanis every single day without fail killing our mobs to ruin our hunt just waiting for us to fall into the range so he can PK, was pathetic lol it went on for months He still does it now but on Sven so he can go for lower levels The whole KD score thing starts alot of the egos imo, tongskie for a start, he bragged about 1k kills yet i doubt even 1/4 of them were from anyone within 10 levels of him lol Shit you see from dsoma shouts is awful, it's like a bunch of 10 year olds always with some shit insults from ted/brain ending with"rofl" Gone are the days where i'm 14 years old, not everyone grew up it seems. For once I actually agree with Mattys post
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[quote="STORMHAVEN"]Sam0 Davy mate, Just because someone has a low number of deaths on the KD score, doesn't mean they haven't been chased by people trying to PK, hunts ruined, evenings ruined where they want to just come on and relax killing some mobs only to be chased off and put in a worse mood then they were in originally.
I personally stopped playing for over a year because every single time I logged on I got chased by tong, still got screenies from it "why dont you just warp". Lisa_arlene had the same thing, tong used to run to shanis every single day without fail killing our mobs to ruin our hunt just waiting for us to fall into the range so he can PK, was pathetic lol it went on for months
He still does it now but on Sven so he can go for lower levels
The whole KD score thing starts alot of the egos imo, tongskie for a start, he bragged about 1k kills yet i doubt even 1/4 of them were from anyone within 10 levels of him lol
Shit you see from dsoma shouts is awful, it's like a bunch of 10 year olds always with some shit insults from ted/brain ending with"rofl"
Gone are the days where i'm 14 years old, not everyone grew up it seems.
For once I actually agree with Mattys post[/quote]
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#89 2018/08/01 15:26:38 |
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"SUBXERO"Anyone who keeps saying soma is a “pvp” game is a retard. There is lots to do on soma but everything not associated with the endless grind of farming the same mob for 1k hours is PvP based you can't deny that. SS GVW PK WOTW CTF
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="SUBXERO"]Anyone who keeps saying soma is a “pvp” game is a retard.
It has pvp in it yes buts not a pvp game like CS where that is all you do i.e player vs player killing each other
You can craft
Gather
Mine items
Level multiple char builds
Group hunts
Upgrade items
Trade etc
So much to do in this...MMORPG
Pvp is 1 part of it (my fav part btw)
In my opinion pk is fine you can hunt if you want. But your “precious” kdr means so much then thats your choice to warp
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There is lots to do on soma but everything not associated with the endless grind of farming the same mob for 1k hours is PvP based you can't deny that.
SS GVW PK WOTW CTF[/quote]
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#90 2018/08/01 15:36:18 |
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