The Forum
Post your idea's - Balancing Devil classes due to dex issues and a WotW/Conti % tweak after?
| Author | Content | Date |
|---|---|---|
|
HOHOHO |
"THEMAT"So basically the only melee class worth playing is Archer or Knuckler? Correct ;o, if you have a 30 dex difference from your opponent you have 80% max evasion against them with JUST your dex(not including dex access/dodge aura I think you can get more with that?) so classes such as axe/spear/sword have 10-20% hit rate against Archer/Knuckle even at Lv100.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="HOHOHO"][quote="THEMAT"]So basically the only melee class worth playing is Archer or Knuckler? [/quote]
Correct ;o, if you have a 30 dex difference from your opponent you have 80% max evasion against them with JUST your dex(not including dex access/dodge aura I think you can get more with that?) so classes such as axe/spear/sword have 10-20% hit rate against Archer/Knuckle even at Lv100.
[/quote]
|
#46 2014/06/05 16:34:12 |
|
INTHEFACE |
"THEMAT"So basically the only melee class worth playing is Archer or Knuckler? At the moment it looks like that yes but remember level 100 is the cap for now, also where tasteless has done a awesome job testing he did not start punching till the caps where reached personally I would not put all your eggs into one basket we have already seen amazing things done with the server and I see a lot more to come
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="INTHEFACE"][quote="THEMAT"]So basically the only melee class worth playing is Archer or Knuckler? [/quote]
At the moment it looks like that yes but remember level 100 is the cap for now, also where tasteless has done a awesome job testing he did not start punching till the caps where reached personally I would not put all your eggs into one basket we have already seen amazing things done with the server and I see a lot more to come
[/quote]
|
#47 2014/06/05 17:49:32 |
|
THEMAT |
I appreciate all the work that's gone into this server its brilliant. But I can't say I understand the argument "level 100 is the cap for now" considering only 2 players have got there so far and as Dan keeps saying, the cap won't be increased for a long time. Generally doesn't make sense to me.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="THEMAT"]I appreciate all the work that's gone into this server its brilliant. But I can't say I understand the argument "level 100 is the cap for now" considering only 2 players have got there so far and as Dan keeps saying, the cap won't be increased for a long time. Generally doesn't make sense to me.[/quote]
|
#48 2014/06/05 17:56:24 |
|
INTHEFACE |
Ok put it this way eventually the level cap will be raised when more people hit 100.if the level cap it raised to a point where I can gain 80-90 more str over the current cap of 215 i'll be able to hit 200 dex (give or take a few) lol , I know it could be raised in months or even years but I guess i'll just make a archer until it is lifted xD
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="INTHEFACE"]Ok put it this way eventually the level cap will be raised when more people hit 100.if the level cap it raised to a point where I can gain 80-90 more str over the current cap of 215 i'll be able to hit 200 dex (give or take a few) lol , I know it could be raised in months or even years but I guess i'll just make a archer until it is lifted xD[/quote]
|
#49 2014/06/05 18:04:49 |
|
GHOSTLORD |
I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close.
|
#50 2014/06/05 18:06:18 |
|
ROTILIA |
"GHOSTLORD"I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close. Surely you see this is a HUGE issue? Fix the issue and you'll see devil soma brighten (or darken?) up again.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="ROTILIA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close.[/quote]
Surely you see this is a HUGE issue? Fix the issue and you'll see devil soma brighten (or darken?) up again.[/quote]
|
#51 2014/06/05 18:19:12 |
|
GHOSTLORD |
"ROTILIA""GHOSTLORD"I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close. I'm just saying we don't need to touch the lvl cap to fix it.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="ROTILIA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close.[/quote]
Surely you see this is a HUGE issue? Fix the issue and you'll see devil soma brighten (or darken?) up again.[/quote]
I'm just saying we don't need to touch the lvl cap to fix it.[/quote]
|
#52 2014/06/05 18:26:34 |
|
MONSTER |
Making the cap 110 and adding a new mob would certainly help things later, but its not exactly needed right now as the only class that are lvl 90+ is archers some other classes are closeby but thats still far from 100, gotta grind to lvl 100-110 to actualy be relevant compared to archers is the problem, anything before that and its not worth hitting an archer.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="MONSTER"]Making the cap 110 and adding a new mob would certainly help things later, but its not exactly needed right now as the only class that are lvl 90+ is archers some other classes are closeby but thats still far from 100, gotta grind to lvl 100-110 to actualy be relevant compared to archers is the problem, anything before that and its not worth hitting an archer.[/quote]
|
#53 2014/06/05 18:29:09 |
|
THEMAT |
"GHOSTLORD""ROTILIA""GHOSTLORD"I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close. So do you intend on drastically buffing other class or nerfing archers?
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="THEMAT"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="ROTILIA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I don't see how the lvl cap is relevant. Only archers can lvl all the way up to lvl 100 with their weapon. Maybe knuckle too but that will be close.[/quote]
Surely you see this is a HUGE issue? Fix the issue and you'll see devil soma brighten (or darken?) up again.[/quote]
I'm just saying we don't need to touch the lvl cap to fix it.[/quote]
So do you intend on drastically buffing other class or nerfing archers?[/quote]
|
#54 2014/06/05 18:52:08 |
|
INTHEFACE |
I see, tbh the only way I can see dex being beaten is to drop the boss's def dex so all class's can hit but raise there physical def (I think mages have it hard enough against boss's) as for pvp its tricky maybe raise axers pd or the amount a spear/sword can heal with auras but only on dsoma maps so the issues here don't spill over to rvr
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="INTHEFACE"]I see, tbh the only way I can see dex being beaten is to drop the boss's def dex so all class's can hit but raise there physical def (I think mages have it hard enough against boss's) as for pvp its tricky maybe raise axers pd or the amount a spear/sword can heal with auras but only on dsoma maps so the issues here don't spill over to rvr [/quote]
|
#55 2014/06/05 18:52:43 |
|
FINITO [Staff] |
Currently leveling different characters on devil world to investigate further into the stat differences. Currently have completed the below, will be doing more in the near future. We are looking into this and trying to sort something out.
Swordsman Level 1-100 Pure Sword  Archer Level 1-100 Pure Bow Capped dex at level 99  Went to Gargoyle Fighter around 85-90 str then onto Kharil Lizard at 120 str then onto WBM at 165-170 str I will be doing more for the other classes and also anther going to WBM earlier around 120-130 str. Plus also doing some that have punch levels.
PM
Reply
Quote
[quote="FINITO"]Currently leveling different characters on devil world to investigate further into the stat differences. Currently have completed the below, will be doing more in the near future. We are looking into this and trying to sort something out.
Swordsman Level 1-100 Pure Sword
[URL=http://imgur.com/yxk4aI0][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yxk4aI0.png[/IMG][/URL]
Archer Level 1-100 Pure Bow Capped dex at level 99
[URL=http://imgur.com/HT7r8z4][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HT7r8z4.png[/IMG][/URL]
Went to Gargoyle Fighter around 85-90 str
then onto Kharil Lizard at 120 str
then onto WBM at 165-170 str
I will be doing more for the other classes and also anther going to WBM earlier around 120-130 str. Plus also doing some that have punch levels.[/quote]
|
#56 2014/06/05 20:47:22 |
|
GHOSTLORD |
If anyone can share when they went to what mob from 70+ str onward it would be a good help.
|
#57 2014/06/05 20:51:42 |
|
LAZARUS |
Tarkihli Paladins 85~90 Str
Conti Altered Beast/Gargoyle Fighter 90~104 Str Kharil Lizard - 104 str ~ 120 Str or when the average is lvl 75 War Beast Miners - Leve 75+ or 120+ Str |
#58 2014/06/05 20:54:06 |
|
MONSTER |
At the moment it seems conti abs from 80 to 110 str(maybe slightly higher if axe/spear), then str8 to wbm with a pocket healer, this just tends to be what people are doing, kharils lizards are simply slower % and less stats (def too high)
|
#59 2014/06/05 20:54:42 |
|
HOHOHO |
"GHOSTLORD"If anyone can share when they went to what mob from 70+ str onward it would be a good help. Hwan AB with a healer :p |
#60 2014/06/05 20:54:46 |
Please sign in with one of your characters to reply