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[quote="S0RCERER"]A real axer will hit 216str with about 120dex way before level 100. (Might hit about level 90) Then proceed to gain 0.0str, dex, con, int and wis until they hit level 100. So this "50 less dex" or "60 less dex" in reality is 80 less dex. Even a punch axer would struggle to get higher than 150dex as past 100str, dex gains are half your str gains.[/quote]

[quote="JAHEIRA"]Yes I was being generous with axer dex as it was a guess, didn't think it would be any higher So yes 16 more str and 80 less dex at 100 if a axer ever does 10 lvls of no stats[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Spoken to Ghost, he agrees there are some issues and will speak to Fin to sort them[/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"]Tasteless put his server on x100 rates, tested it and an axer ends up at 129 dex @ Str cap if you take the normal leveling route. Just fyi.[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="ZYZZ"]Tasteless put his server on x100 rates, tested it and an axer ends up at 129 dex @ Str cap if you take the normal leveling route. Just fyi.[/quote] I don't think that's very accurate since there's been a lot of changes (mob changes too) on this server. I don't even know if the dex rates are the same as on esoma (or whichever p server files he used). Then again my own estimate (120-125) isn't more than 10 dex off so it could be ok.[/quote]

[quote="TASTELESS"]Its not going to be 100% accurate like you say ghost but its actually very close. I made sure the classes I leveled followed the normal hunting guide and when i cross referenced their stats against character on this server it was usually within 2.0 for STR and DEX. I changed mobs to make sure they gave the same gains as here also. I leveled the chars untill they capped their main stat and then punched the remaining lvls to 100. I didnt put it on 100x rates because you can get issues with stats jumping to stupid numbers it was set to 50x faster with the fastest possible weapons and with GM spawning abilities it doesnt take that long. Heres some screens... http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/ladderz1/2014-6-50-461-FIGHTER_zps38d6f1bd.png http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/ladderz1/2014-6-50-460-WARRIOR_zps74dce163.png http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/ladderz1/2014-6-50-450-ARCHER_zpsa599e676.png Take into account the cap on this server is 200 but the idea is to show the vast difference in classes capped stats. [/quote]

[quote="ZYZZ"]Thanks Tasteless Not sure why we had to 'wait till people hit cap'..[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Very nice work. It's all in line with my guesstimates though it seems my dex is on the low end. Useful information, I suspect it's about 80-90% accurate or said differently it won't be off more than 5 ish stats. [/quote]

[quote="TASTELESS"]An average spear will have 136 dex upon capping too, i dont have a screenshot at the moment because im trying to work out if i should punch my char to 100 to get some extra dex but atm thats looking like a lot of wasted hours for 10 dex lol[/quote]

[quote="HOHOHO"]Seems pretty obvious that Archer(range 7/8 bows)/Knuckle(speed A wep) are disgustingly op compared to other classes due to dex gains being so high for them / War beast miner Str cap will also limit Axe/Spear/Sword strengths going ahead of Bow/Knuckle.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="TASTELESS"]An average spear will have 136 dex upon capping too, i dont have a screenshot at the moment because im trying to work out if i should punch my char to 100 to get some extra dex but atm thats looking like a lot of wasted hours for 10 dex lol[/quote] Nice work mate, where is sword good sir.[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Thanks for doing this, dude. So when STR caps at 200 (supposedly) you still get gains in your other stats since you haven't reached the WBM 216 HARD CAP (this is what I thought it'd be). This means Knuckle is capable of getting close to 200 DEX (assuming they don't punch the last few levels like Tasteless did, as punching would reduce DEX gains). Still, this gives us a look at what to expect at level 100, so why would anyone other than Knux/Bow bother?[/quote]

[quote="TASTELESS"][quote="CARNAGE"][quote="TASTELESS"]An average spear will have 136 dex upon capping too, i dont have a screenshot at the moment because im trying to work out if i should punch my char to 100 to get some extra dex but atm thats looking like a lot of wasted hours for 10 dex lol[/quote] Nice work mate, where is sword good sir.[/quote] I didnt do sword because its been changed a lot here so it wont be that close at all as i dont know the numbers used behind the scenes, same goes for mage :([/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="TASTELESS"] I didnt do sword because its been changed a lot here so it wont be that close at all as i dont know the numbers used behind the scenes, same goes for mage :([/quote] Deeply upsets me mate, you had one job just one. [/quote]

[quote="THEMAT"]So basically the only melee class worth playing is Archer or Knuckler? [/quote]