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With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?

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[quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote]
"LUPISCUS"With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?



Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote] Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one[/quote]
"YOSHIMITSU"
"LUPISCUS"With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?



Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one



disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.
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[quote="HURRICANE"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote] Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one[/quote] disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.[/quote]
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"YOSHIMITSU"
"LUPISCUS"With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?



Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one



disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.


This I do agree with but has been shot down before :-( would give people an incentive to get over 130
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="HURRICANE"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote] Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one[/quote] disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.[/quote] This I do agree with but has been shot down before :-( would give people an incentive to get over 130[/quote]
Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's

I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm.

That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm. That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?



i agree to a certain extent, the problem I see is no one is selling any of these weapons, leaving the majority of people struggling for wepons (mainly bows) i bet theres a lot just clogging up people's wh as they cant use/wont sell them to rival guild(s)
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[quote="TOLIC"][quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote] i agree to a certain extent, the problem I see is no one is selling any of these weapons, leaving the majority of people struggling for wepons (mainly bows) i bet theres a lot just clogging up people's wh as they cant use/wont sell them to rival guild(s)[/quote]
Agree with OP :D

This new content on this server is really good. I loved the tagging system early game with crafting etc. The balance to effort:reward was spot on.
Conti weps onwards is a joke though, mix in the harsh upgrade system is pretty much the reason I don't play much now.
The game needs to be more accessible to keep people interested. ATM it is far to tight gear wise. Bosses are not the answer.

We need to copy the wow dungeon system job done :D
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[quote="BRAINDATA"]Agree with OP :D This new content on this server is really good. I loved the tagging system early game with crafting etc. The balance to effort:reward was spot on. Conti weps onwards is a joke though, mix in the harsh upgrade system is pretty much the reason I don't play much now. The game needs to be more accessible to keep people interested. ATM it is far to tight gear wise. Bosses are not the answer. We need to copy the wow dungeon system job done :D[/quote]
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"YOSHIMITSU"
"LUPISCUS"With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days.

As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile?



Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one



disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.


Why will u never get a stinger? Becuase only 1 or 2 bosses a day drop them. Very soon, most of the server will have 93+ dex..... and 1-2 bows a day between every1 wont be enough.

With high upgrade fails ... it wont be long before ppl dont have weapons to hunt with ..

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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="HURRICANE"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="LUPISCUS"]With more people reaching higher stats and skills, there seems to be a serious lack of weapons. Bows in particular. Many people now 93 dex or more...or are getting close... where are the stinger bows? 1 or 2 drop from bosses? With a seemingly ever increasingly harsh upgrade system, bows are very hard to get hold of these days. As blg are the final mele mob, would it not make sense to mayb add a few weapons to the dropfile? [/quote] Disagree, maybe add another boss to conti (pamoth) and make it a lot harder then the current one[/quote] disagree too even tho i will never get hold of a stinger lol. All that needs doing is upping upgrades success per for every 10skill over 100 metal crafting skill.[/quote] Why will u never get a stinger? Becuase only 1 or 2 bosses a day drop them. Very soon, most of the server will have 93+ dex..... and 1-2 bows a day between every1 wont be enough. With high upgrade fails ... it wont be long before ppl dont have weapons to hunt with .. [/quote]
"ZYZZ"Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's

I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm.

That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.


I like this idea, but it should go back to the original item only after a +1 has been added and you're attempting +2, this would make it so much more fun when trying to upgrade weapons (attempting rumours aren't bad as bone isn't hard to come by). More bosses is a good idea as it mixes things up and gives humans more reason to own conti.

Tolic is also right as well though but tthere's nothing you can do about that
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ZYZZ"]Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm. That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.[/quote] I like this idea, but it should go back to the original item only after a +1 has been added and you're attempting +2, this would make it so much more fun when trying to upgrade weapons (attempting rumours aren't bad as bone isn't hard to come by). More bosses is a good idea as it mixes things up and gives humans more reason to own conti. Tolic is also right as well though but tthere's nothing you can do about that[/quote]
When most of the server have 93+ dex , and want some bows to hunt with..... and 1-2 stingers a day drop from bosses..... there arent gonna be enough weapons for people to hunt with .... its not for discussion... its plain common sense.

Make weapons a rare drop like a dt mayb....but.....

1-2 stingers a day for the whole server .......... Its not enough?! ^^
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]When most of the server have 93+ dex , and want some bows to hunt with..... and 1-2 stingers a day drop from bosses..... there arent gonna be enough weapons for people to hunt with .... its not for discussion... its plain common sense. Make weapons a rare drop like a dt mayb....but..... 1-2 stingers a day for the whole server .......... Its not enough?! ^^[/quote]
"ZYZZ"Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's

I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm.

That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.


this idea seems the best i would be far more inclined to try upgrades if it was the case.
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[quote="KRACKEN"][quote="ZYZZ"]Too OP when people already have the +3/+4/+5's I like the idea of the upgrade failing going back down to normal i.e. If I have a bone helm @ +2 (4%) and I go for +3 (5%) and it fails, then it would return to being a normal bone helm. That way you don't lose the item you've spent an age trying to get (for some people) and your only losing the upgrade items.[/quote] this idea seems the best i would be far more inclined to try upgrades if it was the case.[/quote]
Doesn't help the stinger problem but I'd love to see bof/saw/raw/crusher/conq/priest tier weps craftable, with good mats and high skill a nice tag would be better than the next step up but not so easy to come by.
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[quote="QUIMM"]Doesn't help the stinger problem but I'd love to see bof/saw/raw/crusher/conq/priest tier weps craftable, with good mats and high skill a nice tag would be better than the next step up but not so easy to come by. [/quote]
"QUIMM"Doesn't help the stinger problem but I'd love to see bof/saw/raw/crusher/conq/priest tier weps craftable, with good mats and high skill a nice tag would be better than the next step up but not so easy to come by.


I agree, axe handle and conti drops maybe?

Be nice to have the same for sorc robes for armour
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="QUIMM"]Doesn't help the stinger problem but I'd love to see bof/saw/raw/crusher/conq/priest tier weps craftable, with good mats and high skill a nice tag would be better than the next step up but not so easy to come by. [/quote] I agree, axe handle and conti drops maybe? Be nice to have the same for sorc robes for armour[/quote]
Axe handles and Draz bones don't drop a high enough % to be mixed into crafting yet.


I think a lot of the trouble, is that once you get a good bow to hunt with (speed b) then you only get bows to upgrade to A speed or more for PVP. I broke a lot of bows just trying to get a good one for PVP.

There is also the issue of people just having items and not trading. Nothing you can really do about that, but its frustrating when people kill bosses and just stash items.

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The point I was trying to get at, Me and Ace have broken about 10 or more very good rare/Epic/Intense apus and stingers.

Rare, Slither and Phyra in Arcanix have gone through a good share of bows now.

And I'd be willing to bet EQ have broken ~15 Stingers trying to make bows.

There isn't a lack of stingers, the problem is we broke them all.
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[quote="STYLE"]Axe handles and Draz bones don't drop a high enough % to be mixed into crafting yet. I think a lot of the trouble, is that once you get a good bow to hunt with (speed b) then you only get bows to upgrade to A speed or more for PVP. I broke a lot of bows just trying to get a good one for PVP. There is also the issue of people just having items and not trading. Nothing you can really do about that, but its frustrating when people kill bosses and just stash items. **** Edit **** The point I was trying to get at, Me and Ace have broken about 10 or more very good rare/Epic/Intense apus and stingers. Rare, Slither and Phyra in Arcanix have gone through a good share of bows now. And I'd be willing to bet EQ have broken ~15 Stingers trying to make bows. There isn't a lack of stingers, the problem is we broke them all. [/quote]
"STYLE"Axe handles and Draz bones don't drop a high enough % to be mixed into crafting yet.


I think a lot of the trouble, is that once you get a good bow to hunt with (speed b) then you only get bows to upgrade to A speed or more for PVP. I broke a lot of bows just trying to get a good one for PVP.

There is also the issue of people just having items and not trading. Nothing you can really do about that, but its frustrating when people kill bosses and just stash items.

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The point I was trying to get at, Me and Ace have broken about 10 or more very good rare/Epic/Intense apus and stingers.

Rare, Slither and Phyra in Arcanix have gone through a good share of bows now.

And I'd be willing to bet EQ have broken ~15 Stingers trying to make bows.

There isn't a lack of stingers, the problem is we broke them all.



''there isnt a lack of stingers... but we broke them all''

well..there is obviously a lack of stingers.....

we need more stingers

or we need a more forgiving upgrade system

because...

''there are no stingers'' ^
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="STYLE"]Axe handles and Draz bones don't drop a high enough % to be mixed into crafting yet. I think a lot of the trouble, is that once you get a good bow to hunt with (speed b) then you only get bows to upgrade to A speed or more for PVP. I broke a lot of bows just trying to get a good one for PVP. There is also the issue of people just having items and not trading. Nothing you can really do about that, but its frustrating when people kill bosses and just stash items. **** Edit **** The point I was trying to get at, Me and Ace have broken about 10 or more very good rare/Epic/Intense apus and stingers. Rare, Slither and Phyra in Arcanix have gone through a good share of bows now. And I'd be willing to bet EQ have broken ~15 Stingers trying to make bows. There isn't a lack of stingers, the problem is we broke them all. [/quote] ''there isnt a lack of stingers... but we broke them all'' well..there is obviously a lack of stingers..... we need more stingers or we need a more forgiving upgrade system because... ''there are no stingers'' ^[/quote]

 

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