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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Next week archers are getting 1 arm tied behind there back. Week after archers are having both legs tied together so they can’t run away. Week after that all archers are going to be hung, drawn and quartered and there heads stuck on spikes to show what happens if you dare become an archer. Week after that we start on mages.[/quote]

[quote="TEMEROSO"]Damage reduction was actually spoken about well over a year ago before these new weapons where even thought of. [/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="ISYLVER"]1. If anything the same. Your evasion is still the same, your attack in melee is actually better off compared to nega tier across the board. As for spells and procs a needed change to stop one bangs 2. Change happens all the time. It’s life. Can’t promise that we don’t change anything. 3. All the best 4. Go see - same can be said for when “weapons are main stream” 5. Quite a lot of planning actually. We were talking about damage reduction months ago and was always going to go in. No need for us to “crush” anything. Both can operate without need for volatility or hatred.[/quote] Okay thank you. [/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]also the damage over range for bow has been changed. an hour ago. to apply to the damage done[/quote]

[quote="SB99"]Yea, I've tested out the new change and it seems a lot better now. [/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="TEMEROSO"]Damage reduction was actually spoken about well over a year ago before these new weapons where even thought of. [/quote] Damage reduction to range* [/quote]

[quote="TESTESTEST"]Haven't you quit n deleted your chars multiple times just to get them restored the next day jamie lad, you're not done, you're most likely on now harassing some arcanix pve players thinking ur good at pvp rofl State.[/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="TESTESTEST"]Haven't you quit n deleted your chars multiple times just to get them restored the next day jamie lad, you're not done, you're most likely on now harassing some arcanix pve players thinking ur good at pvp rofl State.[/quote] By multiple times do you mean once. Maybe you can’t count. I love all my fans equally though. Will miss you to. 🥰. I’ll be around on forum till all changes are finalised, so don’t worry too much. [/quote]

[quote="MICROSTAR"]It's funny that only few people with str mage type char is backing up this change...bow dmg was huge as you say but still doing x3 proc and weaken another 50% up dmg and 1 shot was all good ofc. Casting and g bird was also good. Casting in less than a second with lvl 4 spells also good. Wearing melee gear and having def even in hero acc was also good. I wonder if melee type was so strong why most dl are mages...reroll guys to melee type and feel the power of getting banged 1 shot from a guy with just a staff+2 and some.proc bits...and ofc come to pk him with all the new changes with spear sword knuck...and taste the experience! Nerf mages if you want to balance the server cause it's not myth of soma anymore its myth of.mages...the most privilege class for many years and only class that was doing heavy dmg no matter what. Imagine if you see a fight of 2 mages because they will say get.more int a guy with over 240 int bang in like 1shot and a wind blow another mage with simular int if he gets the proc!which is insane! REAL nerf only 1 class needed for years and that was mages...proc and ability to stone made them.so powerful it's crazy see mage seek close range to a melee3 char. At dsoma changes might be good for hsoma wasnt since most.our side lost their effort of making bows....from Dl almost noone has been affected so its.easier to back up this change. For me is better to.lower dmg into valor wep a bit instead of adding penalty to archers when hit from distance because that what archers do attack from distance...![/quote]

[quote="SB99"]A part from your obvious emotional rant here you have made some good enough points in regards to mages. (I will say that if I had an upgrade for my spells that removed 16% of cast time I would indeed +8 my staff and of course, an archer can also feather and attack with bow so..) I don't think the damage per distance really is a good thing for balancing mages. I would just leave the original spell (spirit sword/ light sword / explosion) at max damage and just nerf proc damage around the board regardless of range. So I would do 70% damage on one proc, 50% damage on all procs after that regardless if you are at range 1 or range 10. Maybe Ramzo or someone like that would have better figures for this. Then I would nerf stone to 2 seconds and give mages 4th staff from Dsoma. Maybe a constant 4th staff or a longer duration than the current one on Dsoma.[/quote]

[quote="MICROSTAR"]Sorry cant g bird and bow at same time man it's not the same like the abuse mages was doing for years and we both know that...when you talk with me be honest. When you can use as mage type same gear with me with high def my dmg is lower than it should be. And to add 16% off casting below 1 second that you cast was going to be like 0.8 seconds to cast. Wanna help get this game balance...I'll tell you how you can do that...! Get 4rth staff as devil's but reduce dmg done from procs to 50% and ofc not to be able to 1 shot a person with simular int as urs...or a player that wearing ancient upgraded ofc...! Stop g bird and cast at same time. And mage type shouldn't be allowed to use stone at all...so they dont seek close range fights...which is crazy a mage to seek come closer to melee...! A Mage in all games is powerful at dmg but he isn't allowed to use same gear as melee because he needs to hurt from them as well. When you can land over 1.3 dmg in one second you must get pain from melee weps as well...your dmg is burst melee dmg is fast but cant be burst one....! Soonest bow went decent and was able to kill faster nerf occured...! And changes like that had to be added on my opinion when cap raises since capped players like me cant change anything atm...if we knew that we might raised bit int..but still when I see 240.int die in one hit from.another mage I dont know if this was going to be helpful at all...but still was going to be a path...! [/quote]

[quote="KAIDE"]if you think bows cant abuse g birds n feathers think again... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZWswn3WLwc[/url] focus on SEO the whole time and his movements ect and his ability to NEVER lose target on me and abusing g birds mages have to g bird to cast off and get lock off, its common sense unless ur vsing people who use " extras" to make it harder for mages [/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="KAIDE"]if you think bows cant abuse g birds n feathers think again... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZWswn3WLwc[/url] focus on SEO the whole time and his movements ect and his ability to NEVER lose target on me and abusing g birds mages have to g bird to cast off and get lock off, its common sense unless ur vsing people who use " extras" to make it harder for mages [/quote] Some people are so skilled, look lch and yj . I hear yj has changed his skins on humans tho so their easier to click [/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]limiting procs has always been needed. its op as it is. i remember the days when you had to 2v1 someone to secure a kill not jump in and out and hope for a multi multi multi proc hit to 1/2 bang. 2 240 int mages shouldnt be able to 1/2 hit each other with procs[/quote]

[quote="THE_D0N"]surely with this , if you have a 1 v 1 / 2 v 2 / 3 v 3 pk, Surely if there's bowers / mages / axes any1 can use proc to do the extra dmg. I understand the mage's having multiple but whats stopping other area's also having multiple? I cba with pvp, Rather hunt , make gear and attempt ( when I can ) to help with wow. So my opinion may help / may not . But if u have a bower - 600-400 recoil bow + proc you will hit a mage like 90 - 99% of the time as they have the dex. A mage would focus on int - str ( str for more def ) so dex would be pants. 1 of my last times I got pked had kyuss come to elders in conti. Couldn't even hit him. Precast + feathered died 3 times and couldnt get 1 shot off. my last wow was 3 wow's ago, the Dev bows = 3 hit me. Imagine that dmg + proc? Dev vs human - as many complain - humans = mages , Surely theres enough tabs now to make a bower / axer / a proc set to counter balance abit of lost arm. + with the regards to mages having melee armour, Mages would surely need melle armour to help def of a melee char. I wouldnt have gone through the effort of [item post=250829 index=0] if the def did 0 for me vs a dev. There for if a mage only restricted to " int " armour then def is pants so in an even worse position.[/quote]