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"TEMEROSO"Just imagine complaining to GMs that someone made a full db proc set that 1 hits, that they changed it within a few days …. lol, just curious but how many of DL do you think is playing Dsoma?
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[quote="SB99"][quote="TEMEROSO"]Just imagine complaining to GMs that someone made a full db proc set that 1 hits, that they changed it within a few days ….
Now imagine the same guys who complained all went to dsoma to make mages that one bang everyone but nothing been done for 6 months 🤷🏼♂️
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lol, just curious but how many of DL do you think is playing Dsoma?
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#91 2021/07/23 13:58:59 |
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"SB99""TEMEROSO"Just imagine complaining to GMs that someone made a full db proc set that 1 hits, that they changed it within a few days …. they may not be active right now, as dl is known for taking breaks but they had enough to make mutiny and mandemz. how many in a guild? At the time i was in the alliance it was 56 dl members on hsoma obviosuly some play both obviosuly some just play dsoma
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[quote="4634"][quote="SB99"][quote="TEMEROSO"]Just imagine complaining to GMs that someone made a full db proc set that 1 hits, that they changed it within a few days ….
Now imagine the same guys who complained all went to dsoma to make mages that one bang everyone but nothing been done for 6 months 🤷🏼♂️
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lol, just curious but how many of DL do you think is playing Dsoma?
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they may not be active right now, as dl is known for taking breaks but they had enough to make mutiny and mandemz. how many in a guild?
At the time i was in the alliance it was 56 dl members on hsoma obviosuly some play both obviosuly some just play dsoma[/quote]
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#92 2021/07/23 14:26:04 |
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Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log.
Mages definitely need looking at, at SS and pvp dsoma 1 bangs are ridiculous, even in MD gear. Need to look at limiting 1 proc per cast and probably reducing the proc damage, as it’s a case of cast and feather, cast and feather so on…. Wait for the lucky proc and claim ‘skillz’ and say ‘nn’. Think bow damage as mentioned earlier is sorted, don’t think any more is needed but mages definitely.
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[quote="AXOM"]Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log.
Mages definitely need looking at, at SS and pvp dsoma 1 bangs are ridiculous, even in MD gear. Need to look at limiting 1 proc per cast and probably reducing the proc damage, as it’s a case of cast and feather, cast and feather so on…. Wait for the lucky proc and claim ‘skillz’ and say ‘nn’.
Think bow damage as mentioned earlier is sorted, don’t think any more is needed but mages definitely. [/quote]
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#93 2021/07/25 11:18:08 |
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"AXOM"Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log. I don't think the damage reduction has done anything good for mages. My Hsoma mage feels too weak and Dsoma mage feels the same. Honestly would just like the damage reduction by range removed from mages and % changes to proc. Focus back on to MA. Hp elixirs could help too but I don't think they work at the moment, could be an interesting quest if they get fixed. (limiting proc per cast would be a bad move considering the reaction to the proc change before)
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[quote="SB99"][quote="AXOM"]Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log.
Mages definitely need looking at, at SS and pvp dsoma 1 bangs are ridiculous, even in MD gear. Need to look at limiting 1 proc per cast and probably reducing the proc damage, as it’s a case of cast and feather, cast and feather so on…. Wait for the lucky proc and claim ‘skillz’ and say ‘nn’.
Think bow damage as mentioned earlier is sorted, don’t think any more is needed but mages definitely. [/quote]
I don't think the damage reduction has done anything good for mages. My Hsoma mage feels too weak and Dsoma mage feels the same. Honestly would just like the damage reduction by range removed from mages and % changes to proc. Focus back on to MA.
Hp elixirs could help too but I don't think they work at the moment, could be an interesting quest if they get fixed.
(limiting proc per cast would be a bad move considering the reaction to the proc change before)
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#94 2021/07/25 11:34:02 |
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"SB99""AXOM"Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log. Rarely play a mage so not sure on how range has affected - been offscreen hit before so kinda like it that you have to be close to minimise the damage from staying out of harms reach, but I can only estimate it as same as having a melee proc big pod and wipe you per hit. Proc is good, but in PvP it’s overpowered, proc hits massive on the dummy so it’s like being hit by 2/3 spells at the same time rather than a pod type boost. Too many people rely on proc to win, I see a lot of PvP videos where it’s feather and hope proc works. The ones I see that are better are hsoma where you have a support mage who weakens/zombies and main mage that’s big MA - very little proc. That for me is PvP, tatics and teamwork. Recognise the last proc rework people were upset, but full set of Dragon Breath proc to triple cast isn’t skill it’s abusing a flaw in the game so right that it was fixed. Suggest proc works on more of a pod type system as you’ve mentioned mate.
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"][quote="AXOM"]Just to bring this back slightly on topic rather than chars that log.
Mages definitely need looking at, at SS and pvp dsoma 1 bangs are ridiculous, even in MD gear. Need to look at limiting 1 proc per cast and probably reducing the proc damage, as it’s a case of cast and feather, cast and feather so on…. Wait for the lucky proc and claim ‘skillz’ and say ‘nn’.
Think bow damage as mentioned earlier is sorted, don’t think any more is needed but mages definitely. [/quote]
I don't think the damage reduction has done anything good for mages. My Hsoma mage feels too weak and Dsoma mage feels the same. Honestly would just like the damage reduction by range removed from mages and % changes to proc. Focus back on to MA.
Hp elixirs could help too but I don't think they work at the moment, could be an interesting quest if they get fixed.
(limiting proc per cast would be a bad move considering the reaction to the proc change before)
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Rarely play a mage so not sure on how range has affected - been offscreen hit before so kinda like it that you have to be close to minimise the damage from staying out of harms reach, but I can only estimate it as same as having a melee proc big pod and wipe you per hit. Proc is good, but in PvP it’s overpowered, proc hits massive on the dummy so it’s like being hit by 2/3 spells at the same time rather than a pod type boost.
Too many people rely on proc to win, I see a lot of PvP videos where it’s feather and hope proc works. The ones I see that are better are hsoma where you have a support mage who weakens/zombies and main mage that’s big MA - very little proc. That for me is PvP, tatics and teamwork.
Recognise the last proc rework people were upset, but full set of Dragon Breath proc to triple cast isn’t skill it’s abusing a flaw in the game so right that it was fixed. Suggest proc works on more of a pod type system as you’ve mentioned mate.[/quote]
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#95 2021/07/25 11:52:54 |
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Remove all proc and make ToE’s and SS affect staffs cast speed :p
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#96 2021/07/25 16:34:56 |
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I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak?
Dsoma mages can literally cast whilst getting hit so do not need to stand range 8. |
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"TEMEROSO"I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak? There is no PVP on your feed. If you would like to test this out ingame, pm me on Jaina. Can record it and post results here. My Hsoma mage was tanked with ease by a lvl126 with 107int. The Dsoma aura is rubbish - anyone with half a brain can walk 2 steps back and avoid any damage. EDIT: Here is pre patch video of your 1v1 with kaide, where in a total of about 20mins there was 5 deaths and i would put those deaths down to not seruming weakens rather than anything else. There is nothing to suggest any kind of proc being unbalanced (Hsoma). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRDWS4zjEP8&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma Video 2: Corleone tanking my hsoma mage rather easily. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKdK6QbjDI&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma
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[quote="SB99"][quote="TEMEROSO"]I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak?
Dsoma mages can literally cast whilst getting hit so do not need to stand range 8. [/quote]
There is no PVP on your feed. If you would like to test this out ingame, pm me on Jaina. Can record it and post results here. My Hsoma mage was tanked with ease by a lvl126 with 107int.
The Dsoma aura is rubbish - anyone with half a brain can walk 2 steps back and avoid any damage.
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Here is pre patch video of your 1v1 with kaide, where in a total of about 20mins there was 5 deaths and i would put those deaths down to not seruming weakens rather than anything else. There is nothing to suggest any kind of proc being unbalanced (Hsoma).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRDWS4zjEP8&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma
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Corleone tanking my hsoma mage rather easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKdK6QbjDI&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma
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#98 2021/07/25 18:22:46 |
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"CHOJINE"Remove all proc and make ToE’s and SS affect staffs cast speed :p Lol, would be amazing but far too op for pve 😋 |
#99 2021/07/26 11:16:06 |
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"SB99""TEMEROSO"I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak? I think the biggest difference between dsoma and hsoma is that most hsoma chars have decent int and as such difference between ‘true mage’ int and tanking int isn’t that bad. Whereas dsoma mages have a very high int whereas defence wis is low, coupled with high ma staffs and some access, then with proc hitting almost as much as the main spell. You really need to be full wis spec to stand a chance, then you lose any hope of actually serving damage because you have to sacrifice. It becomes almost pointless to join PvP when a mage is there as your likely to be 1 banged a number of times without getting a hit off, due to the gbird proc mechanic… Definitely mage damage reduction/proc nerf the biggest change that’s needed to rebalance…
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"][quote="TEMEROSO"]I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak?
Dsoma mages can literally cast whilst getting hit so do not need to stand range 8. [/quote]
There is no PVP on your feed. If you would like to test this out ingame, pm me on Jaina. Can record it and post results here. My Hsoma mage was tanked with ease by a lvl126 with 107int.
The Dsoma aura is rubbish - anyone with half a brain can walk 2 steps back and avoid any damage.
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Here is pre patch video of your 1v1 with kaide, where in a total of about 20mins there was 5 deaths and i would put those deaths down to not seruming weakens rather than anything else. There is nothing to suggest any kind of proc being unbalanced (Hsoma).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRDWS4zjEP8&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma
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Corleone tanking my hsoma mage rather easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKdK6QbjDI&ab_channel=EricMythofSoma
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I think the biggest difference between dsoma and hsoma is that most hsoma chars have decent int and as such difference between ‘true mage’ int and tanking int isn’t that bad.
Whereas dsoma mages have a very high int whereas defence wis is low, coupled with high ma staffs and some access, then with proc hitting almost as much as the main spell. You really need to be full wis spec to stand a chance, then you lose any hope of actually serving damage because you have to sacrifice.
It becomes almost pointless to join PvP when a mage is there as your likely to be 1 banged a number of times without getting a hit off, due to the gbird proc mechanic…
Definitely mage damage reduction/proc nerf the biggest change that’s needed to rebalance…
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#100 2021/07/26 11:20:57 |
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Just in case you (royal you) want some further evidence of the strength of proc… and the fact you can just gbird and hope for luck.
https://youtu.be/6fuORVpSZso Also linked to this the fact the same proc can kill 190 wis chars, suggests a big nerf is needed to balance the class. Also been mentioned before but flinch may well be worth bringing back if it doesn’t cause too many issues…
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[quote="AXOM"]Just in case you (royal you) want some further evidence of the strength of proc… and the fact you can just gbird and hope for luck.
https://youtu.be/6fuORVpSZso
Also linked to this the fact the same proc can kill 190 wis chars, suggests a big nerf is needed to balance the class.
Also been mentioned before but flinch may well be worth bringing back if it doesn’t cause too many issues…[/quote]
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#101 2021/07/26 15:21:55 |
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"TEMEROSO"I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak? Mages r weak now specifically ma/int geared mages
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[quote="4634"][quote="TEMEROSO"]I can still 1/2 bang people, not just people with 100int but people with 230 int…. I’m not sure what you mean by mages feel weak?
Dsoma mages can literally cast whilst getting hit so do not need to stand range 8. [/quote]
Mages r weak now specifically ma/int geared mages[/quote]
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#102 2021/07/27 00:55:59 |
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