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"STORIORIOR"A few off the top of my head;

Have a look at some of the older boss drops, for example Pamoth…. Who even bothers when they see the shout go up? Get a nega tear added to the drop file or frags and add in nega weaps / champ armor and people would be going. That’s the same across the board for older bosses.

Bosses which drop souls for accessories could potentially use a 10-30% timer reduction to help all players get some boss access to compete with the +8 double tab access out there.

ToV tweaks which I made a thread about a few weeks ago, go have a read of changes I think might help.

Increase the drop rate of scrolls from normal mobs, this will help casuals who can’t attend tov runs for whatever reason. Also keeps players logged in for the 3 hours between runs where they would normally log off. Also on this point if tov didn’t change at all then this is needed as more often than not hsoma has about 4 people trying to do a tov run and it just ends by round 5 or less.

Look at tweaking end game mob drop files, elders don’t need to drop psycho bow tier weapons, nor do I think Titus is needed there anymore. Throw in hard tag only champion and valour weaps. Make that the same for vafers and prism spiders (keep Titus at Vafers)

Also drop rates in general, over Christmas I saw plenty of positive feedback about how rates were brilliant. Let’s get 4x as a perm basis. Obviously the argument of oh but in 6 months time we will want it going to 5x. That may be the case, but if we don’t do anything now then in 6months time we won’t have a game to moan about wanting more from it.

I would absolutely love to see a level raise, a couple of new mobs and new armor / weaps which drop normally and from bosses not just bloody valour! BUT and a big but here, the stat system needs to be fixed first, and that required a lot more effort and time compared to those short quality of life changes you requested Lupi.

So if anyone else would like to add some constructive feedback to these suggestions or if they have their own suggestions get them written down and let’s start hashing out an action plan which can be presented to the GM’s to think about / give the green light.

We as the community have a fantastic opportunity to have our say and hopefully make some changes which will prolong the life of soma.

Mitchy.


Agree, also i believe donation store should be open back up. I would donate a fare bit towards up keep of server. I’m sure there are other players who would donate aswell

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[quote="MAXIMO"][quote="STORIORIOR"]A few off the top of my head; Have a look at some of the older boss drops, for example Pamoth…. Who even bothers when they see the shout go up? Get a nega tear added to the drop file or frags and add in nega weaps / champ armor and people would be going. That’s the same across the board for older bosses. Bosses which drop souls for accessories could potentially use a 10-30% timer reduction to help all players get some boss access to compete with the +8 double tab access out there. ToV tweaks which I made a thread about a few weeks ago, go have a read of changes I think might help. Increase the drop rate of scrolls from normal mobs, this will help casuals who can’t attend tov runs for whatever reason. Also keeps players logged in for the 3 hours between runs where they would normally log off. Also on this point if tov didn’t change at all then this is needed as more often than not hsoma has about 4 people trying to do a tov run and it just ends by round 5 or less. Look at tweaking end game mob drop files, elders don’t need to drop psycho bow tier weapons, nor do I think Titus is needed there anymore. Throw in hard tag only champion and valour weaps. Make that the same for vafers and prism spiders (keep Titus at Vafers) Also drop rates in general, over Christmas I saw plenty of positive feedback about how rates were brilliant. Let’s get 4x as a perm basis. Obviously the argument of oh but in 6 months time we will want it going to 5x. That may be the case, but if we don’t do anything now then in 6months time we won’t have a game to moan about wanting more from it. I would absolutely love to see a level raise, a couple of new mobs and new armor / weaps which drop normally and from bosses not just bloody valour! BUT and a big but here, the stat system needs to be fixed first, and that required a lot more effort and time compared to those short quality of life changes you requested Lupi. So if anyone else would like to add some constructive feedback to these suggestions or if they have their own suggestions get them written down and let’s start hashing out an action plan which can be presented to the GM’s to think about / give the green light. We as the community have a fantastic opportunity to have our say and hopefully make some changes which will prolong the life of soma. Mitchy.[/quote] Agree, also i believe donation store should be open back up. I would donate a fare bit towards up keep of server. I’m sure there are other players who would donate aswell [/quote]
New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂

Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs?

Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders.

In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc.

Mitchy.
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[quote="STORIORIOR"]New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂 Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs? Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders. In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc. Mitchy.[/quote]
"STORIORIOR"New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂

Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs?

Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders.

In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc.

Mitchy.


100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it.

Nothing other than the bare essentials
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[quote="BIGRIK86"][quote="STORIORIOR"]New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂 Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs? Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders. In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc. Mitchy.[/quote] 100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it. Nothing other than the bare essentials [/quote]
"BIGRIK86"
"STORIORIOR"New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂

Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs?

Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders.

In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc.

Mitchy.


100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it.

Nothing other than the bare essentials


Direct bank transfer job sorted

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[quote="MAXIMO"][quote="BIGRIK86"][quote="STORIORIOR"]New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂 Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs? Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders. In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc. Mitchy.[/quote] 100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it. Nothing other than the bare essentials [/quote] Direct bank transfer job sorted [/quote]
"MAXIMO"
"BIGRIK86"
"STORIORIOR"New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂

Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs?

Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders.

In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc.

Mitchy.


100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it.

Nothing other than the bare essentials


Direct bank transfer job sorted, put reference as your player name and when gms log on they can give u



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[quote="MAXIMO"][quote="MAXIMO"][quote="BIGRIK86"][quote="STORIORIOR"]New int robes would be a welcome addition sure. Chances are only actual mages would be able to wear them if it stayed in line with champ and 215 str. Maybe 180-190req could be nicer 👀😂 Another thing off the top of my head is certain items for certain classes. Obviously spiders on drop nega staff and vafers don’t drop staffs. Why not have all weaps dropping from both mobs? Necro stings, currently the only viable way to get these is valk queen / garshuk and both of those bosses are aids and get left alone without being killed. How about adding these to necro wasps at a fair rate like vafer stud drops from vafers, also add them to prism spiders. In terms of donation store, it would have to be away from PayPal, because that caused no end of problems last time. If a normal bank account could be used that would be brilliant. Rested pots, repair tokens etc. Mitchy.[/quote] 100% needs to be away from PayPal, rested pots are always welcome, I just think it would need to have constant attention with it. Nothing other than the bare essentials [/quote] Direct bank transfer job sorted, put reference as your player name and when gms log on they can give u [/quote]
QoL changes….

Tov - hsoma mobs for hsoma Tov, dsoma mobs for dsoma Tov.

From what I hear some players are attending tov but not actually taking part so the scaling is getting abused. Is it possible for the scaling to take into account how many players actually attacked mobs in a wave to scale for the next wave?

More scrolls per wave?

I actually love the idea of Tov ie (team work) brings many great memories of the whole server working as one to banish an enemy but the main trouble of Tov is it actually creates brick walls for players to slow them down, put them off from logging on in that you have to be online at a precise time of the day. You also need to hope that enough players take part to make it worth the time and effort. If you miss the time tuff shit and come back in 4 hours time.

Sorry but all these restrictions are completely off putting to enjoy trying to progress for most players.

Remove all out dated armour, weapons, accessories from drop files and replace with higher/top tier equivalent armour, weapon, accessories.

There are some items that are only dropped by one or two mobs that can be hunted/farmed 24/7 these are troll ring and necro sting to name a couple add these to more top end mobs?

Look at drop files of vafers/spiders, trolls/wasps, boars/shaman these really need tweaking.

Players shouldn’t have to farm elder mags/mags for Barr, I have lost count of the amount of kills in a row I’ve gone through without actually getting anything dropped not even Barr. Barr should be the minimum drop once you kill a mob. Tweak the Barr drop values for the last 3 warrior/mage mobs because honestly the values are way too low.

Increase valour scrolls from vafers/spiders/elder mags.

Add the +3 necklace to be craftable to complete the full set.

Add the +4 accessory set to be craftable.





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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]QoL changes…. Tov - hsoma mobs for hsoma Tov, dsoma mobs for dsoma Tov. From what I hear some players are attending tov but not actually taking part so the scaling is getting abused. Is it possible for the scaling to take into account how many players actually attacked mobs in a wave to scale for the next wave? More scrolls per wave? I actually love the idea of Tov ie (team work) brings many great memories of the whole server working as one to banish an enemy but the main trouble of Tov is it actually creates brick walls for players to slow them down, put them off from logging on in that you have to be online at a precise time of the day. You also need to hope that enough players take part to make it worth the time and effort. If you miss the time tuff shit and come back in 4 hours time. Sorry but all these restrictions are completely off putting to enjoy trying to progress for most players. Remove all out dated armour, weapons, accessories from drop files and replace with higher/top tier equivalent armour, weapon, accessories. There are some items that are only dropped by one or two mobs that can be hunted/farmed 24/7 these are troll ring and necro sting to name a couple add these to more top end mobs? Look at drop files of vafers/spiders, trolls/wasps, boars/shaman these really need tweaking. Players shouldn’t have to farm elder mags/mags for Barr, I have lost count of the amount of kills in a row I’ve gone through without actually getting anything dropped not even Barr. Barr should be the minimum drop once you kill a mob. Tweak the Barr drop values for the last 3 warrior/mage mobs because honestly the values are way too low. Increase valour scrolls from vafers/spiders/elder mags. Add the +3 necklace to be craftable to complete the full set. Add the +4 accessory set to be craftable. [/quote]
If it were possible to impose sanctions such as banning Tov entry for 30 or 60 days (permanent if cumulative) through methods such as video reports on users who are not actually hunting in Tov, this would raise sufficient awareness.
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[quote="23434"]If it were possible to impose sanctions such as banning Tov entry for 30 or 60 days (permanent if cumulative) through methods such as video reports on users who are not actually hunting in Tov, this would raise sufficient awareness.[/quote]
"23434"If it were possible to impose sanctions such as banning Tov entry for 30 or 60 days (permanent if cumulative) through methods such as video reports on users who are not actually hunting in Tov, this would raise sufficient awareness.


This pisses me off more than anything.

Running left and right on the cliff not actually helping.

I'd record that shit for refusal of entry
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[quote="BIGRIK86"][quote="23434"]If it were possible to impose sanctions such as banning Tov entry for 30 or 60 days (permanent if cumulative) through methods such as video reports on users who are not actually hunting in Tov, this would raise sufficient awareness.[/quote] This pisses me off more than anything. Running left and right on the cliff not actually helping. I'd record that shit for refusal of entry [/quote]
"MAXIMO"

Agree, also i believe donation store should be open back up. I would donate a fare bit towards up keep of server. I’m sure there are other players who would donate aswell



Well you donate plenty to users, over 40k in total over the years so may as well start benefitting the server aye.

Biggest cheat in-game, mysteriously keeps getting unbanned.

Maybe the transactions between you and CND and various others need looking into.

Get the fuck off the server

Cunt.
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[quote="ACTAEON"][quote="MAXIMO"] Agree, also i believe donation store should be open back up. I would donate a fare bit towards up keep of server. I’m sure there are other players who would donate aswell [/quote] Well you donate plenty to users, over 40k in total over the years so may as well start benefitting the server aye. Biggest cheat in-game, mysteriously keeps getting unbanned. Maybe the transactions between you and CND and various others need looking into. Get the fuck off the server Cunt.[/quote]
Why doesn’t it surprise me that the first person to be an idiot on a thread designed to be productive and civil is you Actaeon…. GG.

Let’s get back on topic though don’t let one idiot derail what’s so far been constructive.
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[quote="MITCHY"]Why doesn’t it surprise me that the first person to be an idiot on a thread designed to be productive and civil is you Actaeon…. GG. Let’s get back on topic though don’t let one idiot derail what’s so far been constructive.[/quote]
"MITCHY"Why doesn’t it surprise me that the first person to be an idiot on a thread designed to be productive and civil is you Actaeon…. GG.

Let’s get back on topic though don’t let one idiot derail what’s so far been constructive.


Defo some good talks in here. Hopefully they read this and look at implementing some.

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[quote="BIGRIK86"][quote="MITCHY"]Why doesn’t it surprise me that the first person to be an idiot on a thread designed to be productive and civil is you Actaeon…. GG. Let’s get back on topic though don’t let one idiot derail what’s so far been constructive.[/quote] Defo some good talks in here. Hopefully they read this and look at implementing some. [/quote]
the biggest issue seems to be that of stat gains..

so maybe we can help the gm's with some ideas...

how about AFTER lev 135 .. instead of the usual slows.. the stats start to get quicker at the same rate as they have been going slower.. this could be used for the next 20 ish levs maybe ..
players would be begging for extra levels then

( keep any sarcasm to a minimum please x )

ideas are needed if we expect things to change
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[quote="REPTILIAN"]the biggest issue seems to be that of stat gains.. so maybe we can help the gm's with some ideas... how about AFTER lev 135 .. instead of the usual slows.. the stats start to get quicker at the same rate as they have been going slower.. this could be used for the next 20 ish levs maybe .. players would be begging for extra levels then ( keep any sarcasm to a minimum please x ) ideas are needed if we expect things to change[/quote]
"REPTILIAN"the biggest issue seems to be that of stat gains..

so maybe we can help the gm's with some ideas...

how about AFTER lev 135 .. instead of the usual slows.. the stats start to get quicker at the same rate as they have been going slower.. this could be used for the next 20 ish levs maybe ..
players would be begging for extra levels then

( keep any sarcasm to a minimum please x )

ideas are needed if we expect things to change


I would say the biggest issues currently is valour weaps and champion armor.

For several years we’ve been at the cap without an update and players haven’t left then. Players have left now because of how obtaining end game gear is being played out.

IMO fixing how to obtain items to compete (for the casuals, as this is the population who’ve left due to these issues) would be a biggest boost to soma right now.

As for you’re idea of past level 135 stats start to speed up etc, in the nicest possible way please look at older suggestions in the ideas section as people far smarter than me, or you have given solid ideas on how to fix this problem.

Your suggestion for example would mean a char who went 255int and bow for the remaining levels would have 255int 127.5dex and 126str (yes, I did it and yes it’s stupid!) but at level 135 my str and dex would be lower than what it should be per 0.1% wise to players pre 135. Which would mean after 135 I would be at a huge advantage to other players.

The most sensible way to progress (again been said many many times in posts which you’ve commented in) is keep stat gains exactly the same up to 255 regardless of level. Once you get to 255str or int the % per 0.1 drops back down to 230 rates for example. This way if you want to maximise 1 particular stat you aren’t forced to use 8-9-10% per 0.1.

254 int it was 9% per 0.1…..

Every single char needs to grind through the crap % to hit 255 to then get to the speed ups in order to keep it fair on the chars who’ve already powered through and used high %’s.

But again, I don’t think this is the most important thing to rekindle soma for the many players out there wanting to return with QoL changes.
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[quote="MITCHY"][quote="REPTILIAN"]the biggest issue seems to be that of stat gains.. so maybe we can help the gm's with some ideas... how about AFTER lev 135 .. instead of the usual slows.. the stats start to get quicker at the same rate as they have been going slower.. this could be used for the next 20 ish levs maybe .. players would be begging for extra levels then ( keep any sarcasm to a minimum please x ) ideas are needed if we expect things to change[/quote] I would say the biggest issues currently is valour weaps and champion armor. For several years we’ve been at the cap without an update and players haven’t left then. Players have left now because of how obtaining end game gear is being played out. IMO fixing how to obtain items to compete (for the casuals, as this is the population who’ve left due to these issues) would be a biggest boost to soma right now. As for you’re idea of past level 135 stats start to speed up etc, in the nicest possible way please look at older suggestions in the ideas section as people far smarter than me, or you have given solid ideas on how to fix this problem. Your suggestion for example would mean a char who went 255int and bow for the remaining levels would have 255int 127.5dex and 126str (yes, I did it and yes it’s stupid!) but at level 135 my str and dex would be lower than what it should be per 0.1% wise to players pre 135. Which would mean after 135 I would be at a huge advantage to other players. The most sensible way to progress (again been said many many times in posts which you’ve commented in) is keep stat gains exactly the same up to 255 regardless of level. Once you get to 255str or int the % per 0.1 drops back down to 230 rates for example. This way if you want to maximise 1 particular stat you aren’t forced to use 8-9-10% per 0.1. 254 int it was 9% per 0.1….. Every single char needs to grind through the crap % to hit 255 to then get to the speed ups in order to keep it fair on the chars who’ve already powered through and used high %’s. But again, I don’t think this is the most important thing to rekindle soma for the many players out there wanting to return with QoL changes.[/quote]
weps and champ armour.. suggested in original post for armour to drop and more valour scrolls..

ofc a drop file adjustment would be welcome

maybe some repeatable quests for weps .. kill x 5k for example.. same as the nega wep quests

there's gazillion suggestions on the forum.. i still think.. IF.. the stat issue can be solved then more levels would be good for longevity

they may not write on the forum but loads of players have said a cap raise is very much needed

the above post was an idea for stat gains
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[quote="REPTILIAN"]weps and champ armour.. suggested in original post for armour to drop and more valour scrolls.. ofc a drop file adjustment would be welcome maybe some repeatable quests for weps .. kill x 5k for example.. same as the nega wep quests there's gazillion suggestions on the forum.. i still think.. IF.. the stat issue can be solved then more levels would be good for longevity they may not write on the forum but loads of players have said a cap raise is very much needed the above post was an idea for stat gains[/quote]
Yeah of course more levels will need to happen. But let’s not just plaster over the cracks this time. Let’s actually fix them properly and then look at introducing new levels and armors / weaps.

Anyway, we are all entitled to an opinion and adding our ideas so it’s always good when people get involved.
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[quote="MITCHY"]Yeah of course more levels will need to happen. But let’s not just plaster over the cracks this time. Let’s actually fix them properly and then look at introducing new levels and armors / weaps. Anyway, we are all entitled to an opinion and adding our ideas so it’s always good when people get involved.[/quote]

 

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