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Axe vs bow devil

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"WESLEY"
"TED"

You're wrong the damage dealt to other classes (other than a pure non punch mage) is Very low as well, get some of the capped chars to party you in a duel...you will see what I mean!




"S0RCERER"Are we talking about damage per hit including or excluding misses?

If we are including hit-rate, even against axe, bow has the highest damage on Dsoma.


You may have the lowest damage but you hit 99% of the time. Check in a duel with a level 100 archer using dodge and a level 100 sword user with just using 1st. See who wins.


S0rc don't give me that, have a 1v1 against any archer and you know you will win, using all auras as intended. Range doesn't mean a thing as I say, if you damage like a pea shooter.

Why the fuck would a sword user only use 1st? lol....like I said people need to stop trying to isolate things...yes an archer hits more but watch any level 100 class USING ALL THEIR AURAS verses a level 100 archer...look at the outcome.

Regardless of all of this, no one has responded to my question...Why would an archer bother playing after lvl 100 if they can't gain stats???
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[quote="TED"][quote="WESLEY"][quote="TED"] You're wrong the damage dealt to other classes (other than a pure non punch mage) is Very low as well, get some of the capped chars to party you in a duel...you will see what I mean![/quote] [quote="S0RCERER"]Are we talking about damage per hit including or excluding misses? If we are including hit-rate, even against axe, bow has the highest damage on Dsoma.[/quote] You may have the lowest damage but you hit 99% of the time. Check in a duel with a level 100 archer using dodge and a level 100 sword user with just using 1st. See who wins.[/quote] S0rc don't give me that, have a 1v1 against any archer and you know you will win, using all auras as intended. Range doesn't mean a thing as I say, if you damage like a pea shooter. Why the fuck would a sword user only use 1st? lol....like I said people need to stop trying to isolate things...yes an archer hits more but watch any level 100 class USING ALL THEIR AURAS verses a level 100 archer...look at the outcome. Regardless of all of this, no one has responded to my question...Why would an archer bother playing after lvl 100 if they can't gain stats???[/quote]
I'm no where close to being called high level, but reading what's being said people are saying axer wont hit a archer and a archer wont hurt a axer at 90s.

We need more higher levels in each class.

You Wouldn't go to war as a foot solider and take out a tank, a tank takes out a take, a tank doesn't take out a sniper a sniper does.
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[quote="BASIL"]I'm no where close to being called high level, but reading what's being said people are saying axer wont hit a archer and a archer wont hurt a axer at 90s. We need more higher levels in each class. You Wouldn't go to war as a foot solider and take out a tank, a tank takes out a take, a tank doesn't take out a sniper a sniper does.[/quote]
im not talking bout now genefuser ... i said in the future when cap rais archers/knux will stop gain dex ... and other mele chars will gain dex and maybe they will hit the 200 dex .. u will have dex archer and op str + ACC% set how we can fix it .. always looke 10 steps in the future
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[quote="STONES"]im not talking bout now genefuser ... i said in the future when cap rais archers/knux will stop gain dex ... and other mele chars will gain dex and maybe they will hit the 200 dex .. u will have dex archer and op str + ACC% set how we can fix it .. always looke 10 steps in the future [/quote]
"STONES"im not talking bout now genefuser ... i said in the future when cap rais archers/knux will stop gain dex ... and other mele chars will gain dex and maybe they will hit the 200 dex .. u will have dex archer and op str + ACC% set how we can fix it .. always looke 10 steps in the future


As already stated, would hope when level cap is raised so is the dex cap and a Eva cap to help with rvr

No point talking about the future tho as we all know with no level cap a axer will hit the str hardcap and then gains no more stats at all and a archer would also hit the str hardcap with more levels meaning more stats/hp
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="STONES"]im not talking bout now genefuser ... i said in the future when cap rais archers/knux will stop gain dex ... and other mele chars will gain dex and maybe they will hit the 200 dex .. u will have dex archer and op str + ACC% set how we can fix it .. always looke 10 steps in the future [/quote] As already stated, would hope when level cap is raised so is the dex cap and a Eva cap to help with rvr No point talking about the future tho as we all know with no level cap a axer will hit the str hardcap and then gains no more stats at all and a archer would also hit the str hardcap with more levels meaning more stats/hp[/quote]
Raising the lvl cap for DSoma will need a lot of work and preparation. There's no telling what we'll have to do.

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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Raising the lvl cap for DSoma will need a lot of work and preparation. There's no telling what we'll have to do. [/quote]
i dont think anyone wants archers to do mega damage but the fact that they do min damage is abit unreal, Even if someone is "geared" for defence and they hardly miss , they should be doing more damage than a level 1 could do

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[quote="CHRONOS"]i dont think anyone wants archers to do mega damage but the fact that they do min damage is abit unreal, Even if someone is "geared" for defence and they hardly miss , they should be doing more damage than a level 1 could do [/quote]
"CHRONOS"they should be doing more damage than a level 1 could do



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[quote="KAIDONE"][quote="CHRONOS"]they should be doing more damage than a level 1 could do [/quote] This comment wins.[/quote]
fucked it up
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[quote="ILOVECAWK"]fucked it up[/quote]
"GENEFUSER"
"STONES"i read most of the thread and i c bulshit tbh u all talking like its cool an cap archer to pk axer not caped need 37hit ... where is the balance here u talking bout guild village its not the main problem here ... its to much complacated we want balanced wtf im not asking for axer have the same dex as archer ... and im not talking bout giving archer same str as axer ...
im talking bout con no server i played made this problem bout con i played many servers i dont remember str was a def i played test server spear user coz of con i see con is most importing thing...
and btw lets c in the future ACC% set gene wear it .. we r done dead sainyora bye bye asta la vista
and carnage u always talked bout balanced is this balanced to you wot you want me delet stones that i spend 2k houres and start again ... u making here big deal its not btw ... change str/con coz i no when ACC% will come to dsoma all dex class's delete like i said orvoire dex class


37 hits to kill me, and 50 swings to HIT someone.
At least 1 of us is doing damage.
How can anyone with any logic think that an archer needs more damage?

Accuracy set?(lol)And approx 130dex vs 200+dex char means nothing at all.
Give me 5th sword on a 10sec recharge then you can have some damage.

This thread has clearly diverted to a 'let's nerf gene' ramble.
I am the only char that you guys don't hurt, and that's because i gear for defense and use PD.
Without it you all hurt still, so go and hit someone else because I'm no threat to anyone.

In its current state this server devil vs devil is balanced.


tell that to the humns that hardly miss with 50-90 less dex
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[quote="ILOVECAWK"][quote="GENEFUSER"][quote="STONES"]i read most of the thread and i c bulshit tbh u all talking like its cool an cap archer to pk axer not caped need 37hit ... where is the balance here u talking bout guild village its not the main problem here ... its to much complacated we want balanced wtf im not asking for axer have the same dex as archer ... and im not talking bout giving archer same str as axer ... im talking bout con no server i played made this problem bout con i played many servers i dont remember str was a def i played test server spear user coz of con i see con is most importing thing... and btw lets c in the future ACC% set gene wear it .. we r done dead sainyora bye bye asta la vista and carnage u always talked bout balanced is this balanced to you wot you want me delet stones that i spend 2k houres and start again ... u making here big deal its not btw ... change str/con coz i no when ACC% will come to dsoma all dex class's delete like i said orvoire dex class[/quote] 37 hits to kill me, and 50 swings to HIT someone. At least 1 of us is doing damage. How can anyone with any logic think that an archer needs more damage? Accuracy set?(lol)And approx 130dex vs 200+dex char means nothing at all. Give me 5th sword on a 10sec recharge then you can have some damage. This thread has clearly diverted to a 'let's nerf gene' ramble. I am the only char that you guys don't hurt, and that's because i gear for defense and use PD. Without it you all hurt still, so go and hit someone else because I'm no threat to anyone. In its current state this server devil vs devil is balanced. [/quote] tell that to the humns that hardly miss with 50-90 less dex [/quote]

As long as the person with the highest str game also has the highest deff... No ballance Here and even has a 100 Dex more then u(gene) ... that means every 10 ~ 15 hits from me you do not even half of what you make me one shot and im pretty sure u ill hit me 1 hit per 10~15 from me.... Just to lett u know im lvl 96 not lvl 70(+ extra punch)can u giv me another shit low rate between another job's ... None i think andd all of that for fucking 50 dex more looool
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"] As long as the person with the highest str game also has the highest deff... No ballance Here and even has a 100 Dex more then u(gene) ... that means every 10 ~ 15 hits from me you do not even half of what you make me one shot and im pretty sure u ill hit me 1 hit per 10~15 from me.... Just to lett u know im lvl 96 not lvl 70(+ extra punch)can u giv me another shit low rate between another job's ... None i think andd all of that for fucking 50 dex more looool [/quote]
"WAGAWAGA"
As long as the person with the highest str game also has the highest deff... No ballance Here and even has a 100 Dex more then u(gene) ... that means every 10 ~ 15 hits from me you do not even half of what you make me one shot and im pretty sure u ill hit me 1 hit per 10~15 from me.... Just to lett u know im lvl 96 not lvl 70(+ extra punch)can u giv me another shit low rate between another job's ... None i think andd all of that for fucking 50 dex more looool


Let keep this thread constructive , far too much bickering goes on , on this forum
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[quote="CHRONOS"][quote="WAGAWAGA"] As long as the person with the highest str game also has the highest deff... No ballance Here and even has a 100 Dex more then u(gene) ... that means every 10 ~ 15 hits from me you do not even half of what you make me one shot and im pretty sure u ill hit me 1 hit per 10~15 from me.... Just to lett u know im lvl 96 not lvl 70(+ extra punch)can u giv me another shit low rate between another job's ... None i think andd all of that for fucking 50 dex more looool [/quote] Let keep this thread constructive , far too much bickering goes on , on this forum [/quote]
Pvp is about group pvp not 1v1. The only person archers don't hurt is gene. Doesn't mean a damage boost is required. Gene is a tank, offensively he is no threat to archers.

We shouldn't be basing discussions on how your perceive things will be after cap raise. Right now dsoma has a good variance of classes and archers are in exactly in the place they should be. You've been the dominant class since server start and always knew damage would tail off once others cap.
Let's not pretend a capped archer does min damage to every other class, the argument is based around 1 character.
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[quote="CYROX"]Pvp is about group pvp not 1v1. The only person archers don't hurt is gene. Doesn't mean a damage boost is required. Gene is a tank, offensively he is no threat to archers. We shouldn't be basing discussions on how your perceive things will be after cap raise. Right now dsoma has a good variance of classes and archers are in exactly in the place they should be. You've been the dominant class since server start and always knew damage would tail off once others cap. Let's not pretend a capped archer does min damage to every other class, the argument is based around 1 character. [/quote]
"CYROX"Pvp is about group pvp not 1v1. The only person archers don't hurt is gene. Doesn't mean a damage boost is required. Gene is a tank, offensively he is no threat to archers.

We shouldn't be basing discussions on how your perceive things will be after cap raise. Right now dsoma has a good variance of classes and archers are in exactly in the place they should be. You've been the dominant class since server start and always knew damage would tail off once others cap.
Let's not pretend a capped archer does min damage to every other class, the argument is based around 1 character.


This,

it's a shame so many struggle to understand this.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="CYROX"]Pvp is about group pvp not 1v1. The only person archers don't hurt is gene. Doesn't mean a damage boost is required. Gene is a tank, offensively he is no threat to archers. We shouldn't be basing discussions on how your perceive things will be after cap raise. Right now dsoma has a good variance of classes and archers are in exactly in the place they should be. You've been the dominant class since server start and always knew damage would tail off once others cap. Let's not pretend a capped archer does min damage to every other class, the argument is based around 1 character. [/quote] This, it's a shame so many struggle to understand this.[/quote]
Shame that 99% of the people who quit and sold you their chars we're archers LOL and then monster who gets locked out I literally just chase him waiting for that 4th so I can insta 5th trololololo
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[quote="INTHEFACE"]Shame that 99% of the people who quit and sold you their chars we're archers LOL and then monster who gets locked out I literally just chase him waiting for that 4th so I can insta 5th trololololo [/quote]

Every time you try to open this topic on buying chars .. it does not work anymore and it did not lead to ban!!! and you can ask each one orig so calm down....
If you have something important you can add here if not better to keep quiet
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"] Every time you try to open this topic on buying chars .. it does not work anymore and it did not lead to ban!!! and you can ask each one orig so calm down.... If you have something important you can add here if not better to keep quiet[/quote]

 

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