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[quote="TED"]The maintaining high attack is a very valid point. I think if Hogs/apai hadn't been added in archers would still be as intended by Isy.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]Archer attack is in the right place tbh.[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="ILOVECAWK"][quote="ISYLVER"]Hear me out on this one before people start moaning about nerfs of anything. Currently Wisdom is the defensive stat for dsoma and Constitution is the defensive stat. [b]We have two scenarios.[/b] 1) Devil archers are arguably overpowered due to the high con and high attack this is shown by the clear number of devil archers in the game. 2) Devil mages struggle in pve/pvp due to the slow wisdom/int ratio. [b]What I'm suggesting[/b] 1) Intel is used for a magic defensive stat for dsoma - Every class other than mage on soma has almost identical int/wis 2) Strength is used for defense stat for dsoma* - this would lower defense of devils somewhat from a pvp aspect offering better percent wars. This would also mean that each class has a role to play axers and spear users would become more popular. Archers maintain the high attack but we don't have the issue with con disparity and high defense. * We would need a purpose for dsoma con which could be in the form of HP similar to hsoma. Let me know your thoughts.[/quote] What happened to archers maintaining they're high attack :o And it lowering defence [/quote] I'm quoting your earlier post since you feel the need to act the idiot. I don't even see why it has to be explained to you. Your clearly as damp as a wet cloth. Str gains have not been changed so your attack is still the same, hence MAINTAINING YOUR HIGH ATTACK (caps just incase you miss that bit). Isylver said that defense of the other classes wasnt right that's why he changed str. He says it right there in the quote you took. How many ways does it have to be said to you? Archers had every advantage over everyone, now they excel in some and not all. The only players you don't have high damage against are axers going full defense. Your attack has stayed the same, maintaining your high attack. (Said it again, maybe you read past the other bit). Stop comparing your class to 1 character turning a blind eye to everything else. You are not used to having any sort of challenge or weakness as the godmode archersoma, now you have ONE class to no longer completely dominate you uproar. I would say there's only 1 'fucktard' (as you say) in this thread, but judging by some of the thoughtless posts i would be lying. Ramble on all you like but your only going to make yourself look more idiotic each post. I think that's enough from me.[/quote]

[quote="TED"]Path you could argue you are interpreting what was said in a way that favours your argument. The fact is Isy could of meant high attack relative to other classes, which when new mobs are added in means this is lost relative to other classes. In addition to this, was there anything ever done about con being used for HP as Isy said?[/quote]

[quote="ILOVECAWK"]Yeh the guys clearly an idiot, not wasting my time on him Anymore. Also its not just 1 class in defence gear, thought gms would of fixed this mess by now.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="ILOVECAWK"]Yeh the guys clearly an idiot, not wasting my time on him Anymore. Also its not just 1 class in defence gear, thought gms would of fixed this mess by now.[/quote] Who else uses defense gear? because so far the only person I know of that puts defense gear to any use is gene.[/quote]

[quote="ILOVECAWK"]My bad, I mean archers hardly damage any class now other than archers/mages [/quote]

[quote="ILOVECAWK"]Gene just sits there taking min damage from archers /knux and Ofcourse you guys says it's fine, no other way you would get to keep gvw.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="ILOVECAWK"]Gene just sits there taking min damage from archers /knux and Ofcourse you guys says it's fine, no other way you would get to keep gvw.[/quote] Of course he's going to be taking little damage from you guys being the highest level axer with a shield/pd up kitted to the teeth in full defense gear again dex classes, classes that str and damage is not thier strong point. And to be fair you guys would stand a better chance at gvw if you had more classes than archers and knux unluckily for you guys 2 classes that do shit against gene. With a full offensive setup my damage is still respectable vs gene but you guys have no classes to put real damage on him so what are you expecting exactly. I don't understand why some feel that's wrong it's not like you guys do min/little damage to everyone else because you don't. It's silly to try and claim garbage damage against one guy/class, there is everyone else to consider. So far the only valid point in this whole thread is making things fair for everyone if/when the level cap increases.[/quote]