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Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time. Pretty obvious a select few would be happy if the pk function was simply removed.

I'm highly against dropping items on disconnections, but something needs to be gained from pking or else why do it. Far too many entitled players thinking they shouldn't ever be pk'd ever it's part of the game.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time. Pretty obvious a select few would be happy if the pk function was simply removed. I'm highly against dropping items on disconnections, but something needs to be gained from pking or else why do it. Far too many entitled players thinking they shouldn't ever be pk'd ever it's part of the game.[/quote]
"JHAELIEN"Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time. Pretty obvious a select few would be happy if the pk function was simply removed.


And that's how it should be. Makes the game less boaring.

But when you have the biggest guild ingame pking with no chance of a player returning the favor, and if they do manage to return the favor they are then pked on site by the biggest guild ingame who then turns onto the players guild members

It was nice seeing faint guild mature, for it to be destroyed how it has been is sad imo
"JHAELIEN"

I'm highly against dropping items on disconnections, but something needs to be gained from pking or else why do it. Far too many entitled players thinking they shouldn't ever be pk'd ever it's part of the game.


Agree again however I don't think it should be the players items, if it was a level playing field then maybe

But as it stands I think it's far from lvl, you might as well just lvl and not bother with items till you lvl 100, and grinding in this game is boaring without somthing to hunt for, so more ppl would quit before reaching lvl 100

Pkers do needs somthing for pking, items hardly drop as is, so don't understand why this bothers ppl.

I feel more ppl would get involved with pvping if they wasn't risking there items when Relisticly they don't have much chance.

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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="JHAELIEN"]Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time. Pretty obvious a select few would be happy if the pk function was simply removed.[/quote] And that's how it should be. Makes the game less boaring. But when you have the biggest guild ingame pking with no chance of a player returning the favor, and if they do manage to return the favor they are then pked on site by the biggest guild ingame who then turns onto the players guild members It was nice seeing faint guild mature, for it to be destroyed how it has been is sad imo [quote="JHAELIEN"] I'm highly against dropping items on disconnections, but something needs to be gained from pking or else why do it. Far too many entitled players thinking they shouldn't ever be pk'd ever it's part of the game.[/quote] Agree again however I don't think it should be the players items, if it was a level playing field then maybe But as it stands I think it's far from lvl, you might as well just lvl and not bother with items till you lvl 100, and grinding in this game is boaring without somthing to hunt for, so more ppl would quit before reaching lvl 100 Pkers do needs somthing for pking, items hardly drop as is, so don't understand why this bothers ppl. I feel more ppl would get involved with pvping if they wasn't risking there items when Relisticly they don't have much chance. [/quote]
As I said before I'm not in the business of grieffing players unless I REALLY hate them and there's literally less than 5 in that case or I've been provoked but tbh gets boring when someone get's killed and next step is they're straight on the forum.

Been a fair amount of changes/threads as a deterrent to pking, making pking harder, making the players life harder, harder to get out of devil moral blah blah blah but none to make it profitable, fun, or even worth doing in the first place.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]As I said before I'm not in the business of grieffing players unless I REALLY hate them and there's literally less than 5 in that case or I've been provoked but tbh gets boring when someone get's killed and next step is they're straight on the forum. Been a fair amount of changes/threads as a deterrent to pking, making pking harder, making the players life harder, harder to get out of devil moral blah blah blah but none to make it profitable, fun, or even worth doing in the first place.[/quote]
i dont think any1 has asked for pk to be removed? What ''select few'' do you talk of? None i suggest.
Some ppl , myself included are asking for dropping of items to be removed.
Rewards for pk could be some sort of point system, where u trade then in for holy waters or whatever.
The problem atm........ last time ill say this..is nobody is participating in pk or fights.
Upgraded items are hard to come by. Maybe in a large guild where u all log on each others characters and can swap things around, its a bit easier.
But ur average joe is going nowhere near pk if they can help it.
Seriously .. have u shelled out so much u just have to be so obnoxious? or is it an illness?
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]i dont think any1 has asked for pk to be removed? What ''select few'' do you talk of? None i suggest. Some ppl , myself included are asking for dropping of items to be removed. Rewards for pk could be some sort of point system, where u trade then in for holy waters or whatever. The problem atm........ last time ill say this..is nobody is participating in pk or fights. Upgraded items are hard to come by. Maybe in a large guild where u all log on each others characters and can swap things around, its a bit easier. But ur average joe is going nowhere near pk if they can help it. Seriously .. have u shelled out so much u just have to be so obnoxious? or is it an illness?[/quote]
Lupi you can't comment on current affairs seeing as thoigh you haven't left town in months.

Dropping items should never be removed. What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.
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[quote="MITCHY"]Lupi you can't comment on current affairs seeing as thoigh you haven't left town in months. Dropping items should never be removed. What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.[/quote]
"MITCHY"What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.


Do quite like the idea suggested somewhere in here that there should be pve and pvp resi's with the pvp ones limited and costing far more tbh.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="MITCHY"]What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.[/quote] Do quite like the idea suggested somewhere in here that there should be pve and pvp resi's with the pvp ones limited and costing far more tbh. [/quote]
"MITCHY"Jack don't act asif that was the first time you hurled abuse at them.


It actually was the first time I hurled abuse at Pikutin. However, nowhere did I say it was the first time I hurled abuse – I have done it many times. For that matter, so have many others.


"MITCHY"They need no reasons why they want to pk you, they simply can.


…and did. I would have no problem with that (and still don’t) except for the reasons I already gave.


"MITCHY"… If you don't like being pk'd that's unfortunate and you've gotta deal with it.


I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse?


"JHAELIEN"Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time.


Quite, again no problem.


Jac


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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="MITCHY"]Jack don't act asif that was the first time you hurled abuse at them. [/quote] It actually was the first time I hurled abuse at Pikutin. However, nowhere did I say it was the first time I hurled abuse – I have done it many times. For that matter, so have many others. [quote="MITCHY"]They need no reasons why they want to pk you, they simply can. [/quote] …and did. I would have no problem with that (and still don’t) except for the reasons I already gave. [quote="MITCHY"]… If you don't like being pk'd that's unfortunate and you've gotta deal with it. [/quote] I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse? [quote="JHAELIEN"]Don't need to a reason to pk someone, it's part of the game. I'd pk someone if I simply felt like it at the time.[/quote] Quite, again no problem. Jac [/quote]
"MITCHY"Lupi you can't comment on current affairs seeing as thoigh you haven't left town in months.

Dropping items should never be removed. What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.


I can comment on what i like..i think thats in the rules still... unless DL own the forum too?
Do DL own the rights to commenting on the forum?
I can leave town when i like.. craft when i like? and make comments when i like? surely
or do i need to ask DL and affilliated guilds permission?
Oh dear
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="MITCHY"]Lupi you can't comment on current affairs seeing as thoigh you haven't left town in months. Dropping items should never be removed. What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker. 3 resis max and that would stop what you all call grieffing.[/quote] I can comment on what i like..i think thats in the rules still... unless DL own the forum too? Do DL own the rights to commenting on the forum? I can leave town when i like.. craft when i like? and make comments when i like? surely or do i need to ask DL and affilliated guilds permission? Oh dear[/quote]
"MITCHY"What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker.



There is already a solution to that. Don't kill the same person 40 times on a trot while they are stood in peace mode.

Solved.

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="MITCHY"]What needs changing is they way people can simply use 40 resis to get people devil and then warp with no reward for the pker.[/quote] There is already a solution to that. Don't kill the same person 40 times on a trot while they are stood in peace mode. Solved. Jac [/quote]
"JACKELPUP"I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse?


Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do...

"JACKELPUP"There is already a solution to that. Don't kill the same person 40 times on a trot while they are stood in peace mode.

Solved.

Jac



That's what partly wrong with the system shouldn't be able to die 40 times in a row in the first place.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="JACKELPUP"]I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse?[/quote] Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do... [quote="JACKELPUP"]There is already a solution to that. Don't kill the same person 40 times on a trot while they are stood in peace mode. Solved. Jac [/quote] That's what partly wrong with the system shouldn't be able to die 40 times in a row in the first place.[/quote]
"JHAELIEN"
"JACKELPUP"I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse?


Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again lol, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do...


use ur ''borrowed'' character to try pk sum1? wd bigman ;p
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="JACKELPUP"]I know. Am I not allowed to hurl abuse?[/quote] Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again lol, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do... [/quote] use ur ''borrowed'' character to try pk sum1? wd bigman ;p[/quote]
I like the idea of being able to log in dead, tho this would just wipe out the only chance pkers have of gaining items, so removing item drops wouldn't be a issue

I also dis like how a player can just keep dieing till the pker is devil, however increasing the cost of a resi isn't the right way to go imo, not all players have a endless stock of barr, why I surges ted before about forcing ppl to warp to town from a pk, only issue with this is it becomes easyer to lock out a boss as all pked would be bk at town
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]I like the idea of being able to log in dead, tho this would just wipe out the only chance pkers have of gaining items, so removing item drops wouldn't be a issue I also dis like how a player can just keep dieing till the pker is devil, however increasing the cost of a resi isn't the right way to go imo, not all players have a endless stock of barr, why I surges ted before about forcing ppl to warp to town from a pk, only issue with this is it becomes easyer to lock out a boss as all pked would be bk at town[/quote]
"JHAELIEN"
Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do...



Yes, I completely get that.

However, I had never hurled any abuse at Pikutin (until after) and he repeatedly grieffed me at the GW to prevent me from being able to attack it with no prior provocation. I don't even know which real human being was on the character.

You aren't seriously suggesting I should just relax, have a cup of tea and think "ah well, it's all good"?

You know why not? Because next time I am at the GW and he is online, guess what he is going to do ...


Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="JHAELIEN"] Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do... [/quote] Yes, I completely get that. However, I had never hurled any abuse at Pikutin (until after) and he repeatedly grieffed me at the GW to prevent me from being able to attack it with no prior provocation. I don't even know which real human being was on the character. You aren't seriously suggesting I should just relax, have a cup of tea and think "ah well, it's all good"? You know why not? Because next time I am at the GW and he is online, guess what he is going to do ... Jac[/quote]
"JACKELPUP"
"JHAELIEN"
Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do...



Yes, I completely get that.

However, I had never hurled any abuse at Pikutin (until after) and he repeatedly grieffed me at the GW to prevent me from being able to attack it with no prior provocation. I don't even know which real human being was on the character.

You aren't seriously suggesting I should just relax, have a cup of tea and think "ah well, it's all good"?

You know why not? Because next time I am at the GW and he is online, guess what he is going to do ...


Jac


Understandable, but hurling abuse just makes people pk more, been a golden unwritten rule since back in the day.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="JHAELIEN"] Can do but that's what pretty much leads you to getting pk'd again, personally speaking if someone hurled abuse at me the next time I see them guess what I'm going to do... [/quote] Yes, I completely get that. However, I had never hurled any abuse at Pikutin (until after) and he repeatedly grieffed me at the GW to prevent me from being able to attack it with no prior provocation. I don't even know which real human being was on the character. You aren't seriously suggesting I should just relax, have a cup of tea and think "ah well, it's all good"? You know why not? Because next time I am at the GW and he is online, guess what he is going to do ... Jac[/quote] Understandable, but hurling abuse just makes people pk more, been a golden unwritten rule since back in the day.[/quote]
"JAHEIRA"I also dis like how a player can just keep dieing till the pker is devil,



What if the player is trying to kill a boss and is anxious to get the kill shot? Add to that, what if the player helped contribute the spawning of that boss in anticipation of being able to fight it with the others?

Is it unreasonable to resi then?

Is it reasonable for certain people to deny others the opportunity by utilising their bought/borrowed/shared characters and then suffering no consequence?

Why should PKers be rewarded for that behaviour?


Basic PvP (in the manner in which it is intended) is obviously part of the game and I have no issue with it. Abusing it, however, is another matter. Especially when those same people abusing then complain they are getting a rough deal.

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="JAHEIRA"]I also dis like how a player can just keep dieing till the pker is devil, [/quote] What if the player is trying to kill a boss and is anxious to get the kill shot? Add to that, what if the player helped contribute the spawning of that boss in anticipation of being able to fight it with the others? Is it unreasonable to resi then? Is it reasonable for certain people to deny others the opportunity by utilising their bought/borrowed/shared characters and then suffering no consequence? Why should PKers be rewarded for that behaviour? Basic PvP (in the manner in which it is intended) is obviously part of the game and I have no issue with it. Abusing it, however, is another matter. Especially when those same people abusing then complain they are getting a rough deal. Jac [/quote]

 

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