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apparently the WOTW turnout was great even if devs did get slaughtered left right and centre, not really surprised like after the turnout for SS the other day, curious as to what people think of the current balance on the game, alot of the devs I know seem to feel the game has swung to far over to the human side now with their new MA and items etc, I am also wondering if this is going to continue to swing more over to the human side, with players such as intheface leaving recently, can we get some sort of idea of whats going on with the game from the GM team to avoid further loss to the soma community.
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[quote="ARYA_"]apparently the WOTW turnout was great even if devs did get slaughtered left right and centre, not really surprised like after the turnout for SS the other day, curious as to what people think of the current balance on the game, alot of the devs I know seem to feel the game has swung to far over to the human side now with their new MA and items etc, I am also wondering if this is going to continue to swing more over to the human side, with players such as intheface leaving recently, can we get some sort of idea of whats going on with the game from the GM team to avoid further loss to the soma community.[/quote]
First of all, I don't think Intheface left because of soma. Don't know why people keep blaming soma on him leaving. I've heard he got a job and he deleted his char to motivate him more. Secondly, I still think devils are way overpowered. Ok you get battered by humans int but humans have to deal with your archers 200dex, 200str and 80-130attack weps. If anything I think humans needs a lvl increase before devils to bring them inline. That's my opinion anyway
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[quote="HURRICANE"]First of all, I don't think Intheface left because of soma. Don't know why people keep blaming soma on him leaving. I've heard he got a job and he deleted his char to motivate him more. Secondly, I still think devils are way overpowered. Ok you get battered by humans int but humans have to deal with your archers 200dex, 200str and 80-130attack weps. If anything I think humans needs a lvl increase before devils to bring them inline. That's my opinion anyway[/quote]
For one they aren't supposed to be the same but yea you can get your mellee buffs so long as devs get a buff of about 100md each
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[quote="DEIMOS"]For one they aren't supposed to be the same but yea you can get your mellee buffs so long as devs get a buff of about 100md each[/quote]
+1 hurricane
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[quote="BIRDMAN"]+1 hurricane[/quote]
Devils get hammered twice in a row and threads are being made lul
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[quote="BIRDMAN"]Devils get hammered twice in a row and threads are being made lul[/quote]
Also I'd like to say, I don't think the game is swinging more to human side at all. Lately everyone is playing dsoma. It was mentioned in the thread other day. Also nothing on the human ma side has changed in over a year maybe more. And final point. 90% of Hsoma population is now melee anyway.
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[quote="HURRICANE"]Also I'd like to say, I don't think the game is swinging more to human side at all. Lately everyone is playing dsoma. It was mentioned in the thread other day. Also nothing on the human ma side has changed in over a year maybe more. And final point. 90% of Hsoma population is now melee anyway.[/quote]
Hurricane in case you didn't see Face's post I'll post it below, it seems pretty soma related to me.

'Yesterday was possible the worst day Ive ever had on soma but it was a real eye opener

Killed insane pamoth literally dropped nothing not even a rare it was pointless it even spawning, killed magma beast lord dropped nothing but bar ok better then pammy but when your sitting on 110+ mil once again pointless

Go to ss and in no way is this a flame post but even with my apparent overpowered character I was getting 4 hit (I recorded it if you don't believe me) now I'm not complaining about Devula gear I'm sure he worked hard to get to the point where he is capable of doing so much magic damage and I realise devils % was so low but it got me thinking

After patch and my stats are nerfed into the ground and I lose the ability to wear robes what will it be like then ? one thing is certain humans are getting their int cap raised and human gear upgrades will always be progressing but devils are having their only ability to raise their magic defence removed and this stat allocation it will be literally impossible to have decent magic defence without having to seriously comprising other stats but then again I thought that was the risk of punching so why even change it

I really don't like the idea that dsoma future is in the hands of 2 people that don't even play the game don't get me wrong isy/fin have done a amazing job but this stat allocation bull shit is not needed you either decide to punch or you don't

Broke a boss soul item which I think was the straw that broke the camels back for me months of boss kills to get the souls just for it to break I really can't justify sinking so many hours into this game just for it to break

As for s0rc being banned it's possible the most perfectic thing I've seen banning someone for expressing their freedom of speech is fucking sad no matter what you say it's fucking disgraceful just because he's ideas are opposite to your own doesn't warrant a ban no matter how much he kicked off



Coven made me the player I was till I quit they alway helped me out thru my long ass punch struggle gave me spare items they no longer needed and generally amazing group of girls and guys I just hope that the people I've helped out continue to help out others

Litrally the only thing I'm going to miss about soma is it's users but once I make my mind up about something (like punching intheface to cap) it's final I won't be returning ever but then again why would the gms give a fuck about 1 person quitting

All the best for the future you beautiful people

Intheface xx'
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[quote="MUSASJI"]Hurricane in case you didn't see Face's post I'll post it below, it seems pretty soma related to me. 'Yesterday was possible the worst day Ive ever had on soma but it was a real eye opener Killed insane pamoth literally dropped nothing not even a rare it was pointless it even spawning, killed magma beast lord dropped nothing but bar ok better then pammy but when your sitting on 110+ mil once again pointless Go to ss and in no way is this a flame post but even with my apparent overpowered character I was getting 4 hit (I recorded it if you don't believe me) now I'm not complaining about Devula gear I'm sure he worked hard to get to the point where he is capable of doing so much magic damage and I realise devils % was so low but it got me thinking After patch and my stats are nerfed into the ground and I lose the ability to wear robes what will it be like then ? one thing is certain humans are getting their int cap raised and human gear upgrades will always be progressing but devils are having their only ability to raise their magic defence removed and this stat allocation it will be literally impossible to have decent magic defence without having to seriously comprising other stats but then again I thought that was the risk of punching so why even change it I really don't like the idea that dsoma future is in the hands of 2 people that don't even play the game don't get me wrong isy/fin have done a amazing job but this stat allocation bull shit is not needed you either decide to punch or you don't Broke a boss soul item which I think was the straw that broke the camels back for me months of boss kills to get the souls just for it to break I really can't justify sinking so many hours into this game just for it to break As for s0rc being banned it's possible the most perfectic thing I've seen banning someone for expressing their freedom of speech is fucking sad no matter what you say it's fucking disgraceful just because he's ideas are opposite to your own doesn't warrant a ban no matter how much he kicked off Coven made me the player I was till I quit they alway helped me out thru my long ass punch struggle gave me spare items they no longer needed and generally amazing group of girls and guys I just hope that the people I've helped out continue to help out others Litrally the only thing I'm going to miss about soma is it's users but once I make my mind up about something (like punching intheface to cap) it's final I won't be returning ever but then again why would the gms give a fuck about 1 person quitting All the best for the future you beautiful people Intheface xx'[/quote]
I don't get how a human can take 4 melle devils but I can get two hit without weakening on me 🙄 Seems straight up fair.

And I do think face has quit regarding the patch he has always said he's quitting once it's released due to the unbalance.
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[quote="BALLER"]I don't get how a human can take 4 melle devils but I can get two hit without weakening on me 🙄 Seems straight up fair. And I do think face has quit regarding the patch he has always said he's quitting once it's released due to the unbalance.[/quote]
Im not moaning I am asking for opinion, I am interested to hear from other players as to what they think the GM team should do to balance out the game.

I think you humans forget sometimes as a dev you are tied into having 1 speciality you either have magic or you have melee you cant have both, like you humans, even our dev mages where battered by INT at the latest WOTW from what I have heard.

again though I am not moaning, I went to SS the other day and got destroyed a lot I got used to that when I was using my human anyway so doesn't bother me as it is only a game.
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[quote="ARYA_"]Im not moaning I am asking for opinion, I am interested to hear from other players as to what they think the GM team should do to balance out the game. I think you humans forget sometimes as a dev you are tied into having 1 speciality you either have magic or you have melee you cant have both, like you humans, even our dev mages where battered by INT at the latest WOTW from what I have heard. again though I am not moaning, I went to SS the other day and got destroyed a lot I got used to that when I was using my human anyway so doesn't bother me as it is only a game.[/quote]
Still don't see the need for nerfing/changing the entire levelling system when the % system is the ideal mechanic to balance RvR. It also proves how hard it is to balance because it tilts around the current mark based on turnout and a few %. But that could also be seen as an indicator that it's as good as it's gonna get.

Devils i've spoken to have been discussing the fact that they need to be heard about race balance, not because they dislike how it is now, but because they're worried RvR could become non-existant if things go ahead as planned, which would be tragic for the game.
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[quote="DOFLAMINGO"]Still don't see the need for nerfing/changing the entire levelling system when the % system is the ideal mechanic to balance RvR. It also proves how hard it is to balance because it tilts around the current mark based on turnout and a few %. But that could also be seen as an indicator that it's as good as it's gonna get. Devils i've spoken to have been discussing the fact that they need to be heard about race balance, not because they dislike how it is now, but because they're worried RvR could become non-existant if things go ahead as planned, which would be tragic for the game.[/quote]
My personal though is that the balance isnt to far off

Devil weap dmg is high and the % balances this, the main issue is that devils dont need to lose 30% magic def also, humans do enough dmg with magic, dosnt help that they have range over all but 1 melle class

I do think the % needs to increase faster that it goes down, as turn out tends to be the main factor for winning or loosing
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]My personal though is that the balance isnt to far off Devil weap dmg is high and the % balances this, the main issue is that devils dont need to lose 30% magic def also, humans do enough dmg with magic, dosnt help that they have range over all but 1 melle class I do think the % needs to increase faster that it goes down, as turn out tends to be the main factor for winning or loosing[/quote]
Arya, Dof and Jah +1
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[quote="MUSASJI"]Arya, Dof and Jah +1[/quote]
"HURRICANE"First of all, I don't think Intheface left because of soma. Don't know why people keep blaming soma on him leaving. I've heard he got a job and he deleted his char to motivate him more.


He left because of soma, he didn't write that massive post for nothing.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="HURRICANE"]First of all, I don't think Intheface left because of soma. Don't know why people keep blaming soma on him leaving. I've heard he got a job and he deleted his char to motivate him more.[/quote] He left because of soma, he didn't write that massive post for nothing. [/quote]
My apologies. I honestly didn't see the original post. But what I'm getting is Intheface has deleted his char because he had a bad day with bosses and that he got 4 hit by int by one of the best mages in Hsoma? Not all bosses drop upgrades and items every death. Also to get 4hit by int is very good in my eyes, even Hsoma chars get 2 hit, I don't see the issue at the moment. In my eyes Intheface was well overpowered. He could tank 10top humans with ease. Yes I agree he deserves it after putting all the man hours in but that's just ott. You shouldn't be able to talk that many chars at all. I do agree the new patch needs changing for dsoma md.
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[quote="HURRICANE"]My apologies. I honestly didn't see the original post. But what I'm getting is Intheface has deleted his char because he had a bad day with bosses and that he got 4 hit by int by one of the best mages in Hsoma? Not all bosses drop upgrades and items every death. Also to get 4hit by int is very good in my eyes, even Hsoma chars get 2 hit, I don't see the issue at the moment. In my eyes Intheface was well overpowered. He could tank 10top humans with ease. Yes I agree he deserves it after putting all the man hours in but that's just ott. You shouldn't be able to talk that many chars at all. I do agree the new patch needs changing for dsoma md.[/quote]
Tank*
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[quote="HURRICANE"]Tank*[/quote]

 

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