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"OPENTHEDOOR"I've never played dsoma Dan so hopefully an unbiased view.

I don't get what's wrong with punching, looks like hardly any chars punched a full 100 levels.

Can't you just do your changes and make no punching after lvl 100?

I really don't understand why you trying so much work when it's hardly broken.

Same with hsoma and healing for int and doing -50 from the start. If you put the hours in you get the stats.


Or cap punching gains at a set stat for each class?
Like 100 / 110/ 120 / 130 axe spear knux bow?
All lvls punched more then those values will be for diffrent values of dex/con/str for your class only?
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[quote="KEKKET"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]I've never played dsoma Dan so hopefully an unbiased view. I don't get what's wrong with punching, looks like hardly any chars punched a full 100 levels. Can't you just do your changes and make no punching after lvl 100? I really don't understand why you trying so much work when it's hardly broken. Same with hsoma and healing for int and doing -50 from the start. If you put the hours in you get the stats.[/quote] Or cap punching gains at a set stat for each class? Like 100 / 110/ 120 / 130 axe spear knux bow? All lvls punched more then those values will be for diffrent values of dex/con/str for your class only?[/quote]
giving humans a RVR set of weapons/armour/access that can only be used at wotw and can't be upgraded would be an easy way to start, just re-colour hero and give it really good attack and defence.

surely this would not be hard to implement?
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[quote="ISELIX"]giving humans a RVR set of weapons/armour/access that can only be used at wotw and can't be upgraded would be an easy way to start, just re-colour hero and give it really good attack and defence. surely this would not be hard to implement? [/quote]
The last WOTW and SS humans turned up in massive numbers and worked together, I was fighting both DL and Vikings, if you actually quit with the crying and turned up to these events week in and week out, (work and life permitting) then you could actually win, its always been the same few people turning up to these things even before I switched sides, at least they try.
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[quote="ARYA_"]The last WOTW and SS humans turned up in massive numbers and worked together, I was fighting both DL and Vikings, if you actually quit with the crying and turned up to these events week in and week out, (work and life permitting) then you could actually win, its always been the same few people turning up to these things even before I switched sides, at least they try.[/quote]
"ARYA_"quit with the crying


I'd take your own advice.

Humans need an advantage over devils. In return devils have an advantage over humans. The whole point of dsoma is to master one class so if you want high MD, play a mage. If you want high physical defence and high physical attack, play a melee class etc.

Humans are jack of all trades, master of none. What's capped STR of dsoma axer? 280? 300? Idk. Humans on the other hand can't gain any more than 171 str. Figure out your 70% and you'll realise that devils still do a hell of a lot of damage to any human.

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[quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="ARYA_"]quit with the crying[/quote] I'd take your own advice. Humans need an advantage over devils. In return devils have an advantage over humans. The whole point of dsoma is to master one class so if you want high MD, play a mage. If you want high physical defence and high physical attack, play a melee class etc. Humans are jack of all trades, master of none. What's capped STR of dsoma axer? 280? 300? Idk. Humans on the other hand can't gain any more than 171 str. Figure out your 70% and you'll realise that devils still do a hell of a lot of damage to any human. [/quote]
that's a typical thing to do pick out 1 part of someones post and ridicule it or attempt 2, you have missed every other point in my post, I actually complimented the humans in my last post yet you pick up on 1 negative out of what 3 positives.
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[quote="ARYA_"]that's a typical thing to do pick out 1 part of someones post and ridicule it or attempt 2, you have missed every other point in my post, I actually complimented the humans in my last post yet you pick up on 1 negative out of what 3 positives.[/quote]
It's literally just been confirmed that Devils are getting nerfed and you're already asking for more? This is how we got in to this situation in the first place - altering a system that isn't broken. Stop crying about dying a couple of times at wotw, we get 2 or 3 banged by int but we just keep coming back and have fun pvping, because that's part of the game.
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[quote="DOFLAMINGO"]It's literally just been confirmed that Devils are getting nerfed and you're already asking for more? This is how we got in to this situation in the first place - altering a system that isn't broken. Stop crying about dying a couple of times at wotw, we get 2 or 3 banged by int but we just keep coming back and have fun pvping, because that's part of the game.[/quote]
no dsoma players arnt just getting on with it because if you aint leaving soma your voicing a strong opionion about this new patch im sure dan/fin will read this thread so come up with some ideas if all of dsoma aint wanting this change. like my last post stated.
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[quote="PURIEL"]no dsoma players arnt just getting on with it because if you aint leaving soma your voicing a strong opionion about this new patch im sure dan/fin will read this thread so come up with some ideas if all of dsoma aint wanting this change. like my last post stated.[/quote]
I believe there were plenty of options voiced way back when, some seemed bad some
Good, gm's decided on which they thought was best and easy to adjust, whether this be good or bad we will find out soon enough, it's well and good having the test server but when I've been on there isn't any/many others so you can't really get a real view on what will be like
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[quote="DEIMOS"]I believe there were plenty of options voiced way back when, some seemed bad some Good, gm's decided on which they thought was best and easy to adjust, whether this be good or bad we will find out soon enough, it's well and good having the test server but when I've been on there isn't any/many others so you can't really get a real view on what will be like[/quote]
Anyone capped a human with pure int 100-110? Like to know int if you have.
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[quote="BALLER"]Anyone capped a human with pure int 100-110? Like to know int if you have.[/quote]
Personally I think splitting the md % away from the other % would be easier to balance, devs can maintain a decent md level to stop getting 1-2-3hit
This in turn would allow str/def % to drop further and stop devs doing as much damage to humans
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Personally I think splitting the md % away from the other % would be easier to balance, devs can maintain a decent md level to stop getting 1-2-3hit This in turn would allow str/def % to drop further and stop devs doing as much damage to humans[/quote]
think tbh... suggestions like this are whats slowed everything down.. Hence dan gona go with whats there atm on their plan..... see how it goes.. if its shit or flawed they can change it nps.

Better to have new stuff..than complain we never have anything new imo...

Get the new stuff in..and input/ suggestions can be corrected if necessary

Gm's arent here to make either devs or humans op. They aint biased. The more happy ppl there are.. on both races.. makes their life easier... And thats what they try to do. Give it a chance
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]think tbh... suggestions like this are whats slowed everything down.. Hence dan gona go with whats there atm on their plan..... see how it goes.. if its shit or flawed they can change it nps. Better to have new stuff..than complain we never have anything new imo... Get the new stuff in..and input/ suggestions can be corrected if necessary Gm's arent here to make either devs or humans op. They aint biased. The more happy ppl there are.. on both races.. makes their life easier... And thats what they try to do. Give it a chance[/quote]
for once i actually agree with lupi xD

+1
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[quote="PURIEL"]for once i actually agree with lupi xD +1[/quote]
That's great when it's new content building on the game like hsoma is getting and carry on from where your hard work got you to and continue to progress in the direction you choose, but a full rework to change the system is different, especially when you're being told you have to drop 20% of your existing stats
That isn't me trying to be negative or anything that is just stating what's happened, it may well work it may not time will tell i suppose
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[quote="DEIMOS"]That's great when it's new content building on the game like hsoma is getting and carry on from where your hard work got you to and continue to progress in the direction you choose, but a full rework to change the system is different, especially when you're being told you have to drop 20% of your existing stats That isn't me trying to be negative or anything that is just stating what's happened, it may well work it may not time will tell i suppose[/quote]
im sure ur moans and complaints that may arise will be listened to and some adjustments made. Soma as it stands is what..15 yrs old? ..whatever. . Brave decision to take it forward with some improvements.
Give the guys a chance. No1s been screwed so far...... devs or humans . They try to do what they can. Can't ask more than that tbh.. All for 0 £age out of ur pocket , unless u choose to donate ...
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth !
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]im sure ur moans and complaints that may arise will be listened to and some adjustments made. Soma as it stands is what..15 yrs old? ..whatever. . Brave decision to take it forward with some improvements. Give the guys a chance. No1s been screwed so far...... devs or humans . They try to do what they can. Can't ask more than that tbh.. All for 0 £age out of ur pocket , unless u choose to donate ... Don't look a gift horse in the mouth ![/quote]
The point system aint bad if we get to try 8 points/lvl instead of 7 it would be same ish as it is now but without punching.
Or swamp str/int req of armours/robes to con/wis as i have sugested befor.
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[quote="KEKKET"]The point system aint bad if we get to try 8 points/lvl instead of 7 it would be same ish as it is now but without punching. Or swamp str/int req of armours/robes to con/wis as i have sugested befor.[/quote]

 

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