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MUSASJI |
When did I claim there wasn’t a weakness vs a specific class? I actually said that was exactly the case.
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#136 2018/06/05 09:01:37 |
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TYROZET |
Ibex was sub 100 and in testing could 2 shot Sharpi at 110, 3 shot at the most
No other class with this level difference would be capable of these advantages |
#137 2018/06/05 09:07:43 |
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"DEIMOS"Proof is in the video afro keeps posting while he is in full invul when I dont proc I hit for roughly 30% or less and when I proc'd it only took just over half 30% a hit and a solo proc takes over half his hp? So you one shot with weaken on a solo proc and your how many levels behind? You even say in the video "lol need zombie to kill a mage" or whatever it was And guessing as merlin hasn't been around very long your gear is only half decent at a push See a few of you saying "if 2 archers click lock you the same time" (I've seen this be out potted quite often) what do you think happens when two mages are on someone one mage has precast weaken the other explosion....
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="DEIMOS"]Proof is in the video afro keeps posting while he is in full invul when I dont proc I hit for roughly 30% or less and when I proc'd it only took just over half
https://youtu.be/V-3-OaoVLeA?t=47s
Might I also point out the title of said video being 'merlin spanking' on a vid of 1v1 called that you cant really try claim you have any form of weakness or disadvantage against that class[/quote]
30% a hit and a solo proc takes over half his hp?
So you one shot with weaken on a solo proc and your how many levels behind?
You even say in the video "lol need zombie to kill a mage" or whatever it was
And guessing as merlin hasn't been around very long your gear is only half decent at a push
See a few of you saying "if 2 archers click lock you the same time" (I've seen this be out potted quite often)
what do you think happens when two mages are on someone one mage has precast weaken the other explosion.... [/quote]
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#138 2018/06/05 09:22:34 |
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MUSASJI |
Sam unfortunately what you’re suggesting for Encore would require some level of tactics both in gearing and PvP. I’m pretty sure they’re incapable of this kind of thinking after reading all their posts recently. It seems to me their belief is not to learn to play a class, gear/allocate and use tactics/make adjustments, but to beg for unwarranted buffs.
I think our words are wasted on them, but everyone else can clearly see the selective and biased bs they’re spurting out constantly.
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[quote="MUSASJI"]Sam unfortunately what you’re suggesting for Encore would require some level of tactics both in gearing and PvP. I’m pretty sure they’re incapable of this kind of thinking after reading all their posts recently. It seems to me their belief is not to learn to play a class, gear/allocate and use tactics/make adjustments, but to beg for unwarranted buffs.
I think our words are wasted on them, but everyone else can clearly see the selective and biased bs they’re spurting out constantly.[/quote]
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#139 2018/06/05 09:26:51 |
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SAM0 |
"DEIMOS"Easily one shot? Dont talk rubbish Yes easily one shot. It's not hard to get a proc with the sets some people have these days... Seen a few 40-50% proc sets about
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="DEIMOS"]Easily one shot? Dont talk rubbish
Without proc mages deal roughly 25-30% damage against an archer, they easily receive the same (often more) per hit every hit while being stopped from attacking, can you imagine how boring pvp would be if your melee attack got interrupted because you took a hit?
Add in pod sets and 4th auras it's easily the equivalent of a proc (ignoring pod sets providing 20% chance rather than 5% proc)[/quote]
Yes easily one shot. It's not hard to get a proc with the sets some people have these days... Seen a few 40-50% proc sets about[/quote]
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#140 2018/06/05 09:29:04 |
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SAM0 |
"MUSASJI"Sam unfortunately what you’re suggesting for Encore would require some level of tactics both in gearing and PvP. I’m pretty sure they’re incapable of this kind of thinking after reading all their posts recently. It seems to me their belief is not to learn to play a class, gear/allocate and use tactics/make adjustments, but to beg for unwarranted buffs. Most the the players can your right. But never know with the Gm's who are the ones who can give said begged for buffs. Just have to look at any "ideas" thread posted by them it's just the whole Encore guild "+1 great idea" nonsense hoping that if they all spam It together they can influence the Gms decision into buffing them
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="MUSASJI"]Sam unfortunately what you’re suggesting for Encore would require some level of tactics both in gearing and PvP. I’m pretty sure they’re incapable of this kind of thinking after reading all their posts recently. It seems to me their belief is not to learn to play a class, gear/allocate and use tactics/make adjustments, but to beg for unwarranted buffs.
I think our words are wasted on them, but everyone else can clearly see the selective and biased bs they’re spurting out constantly.[/quote]
Most the the players can your right. But never know with the Gm's who are the ones who can give said begged for buffs.
Just have to look at any "ideas" thread posted by them it's just the whole Encore guild "+1 great idea" nonsense hoping that if they all spam It together they can influence the Gms decision into buffing them[/quote]
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#141 2018/06/05 09:37:05 |
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DEATHNOTE |
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#142 2018/06/05 10:42:08 |
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IBEX |
Hsoma maybe a god set,
 [Rare] Boots of Invulnerability (M)+2Defense : 20~26 Weight : 26 Durability : 1135 Req. Con : 139 Flame Touch (4%)  [Rare] Pads of Invulnerability (M)+1Defense : 22~37 Weight : 31 Durability : 1308 Req. Con : 139 Flame Touch (3%)  [Rare] Armor of Invulnerability (M)+1Defense : 23~34 Weight : 29 Durability : 1033 Req. Con : 139 Infernal Touch (3%)  [Rare] Hat of Diabolist (M)+1Defense : 6~8 Weight : 8 Durability : 2398 Req. Wis : 91 Infernal Touch (3%)  [Rare] Infernal Necklace IIDefense : 1~2 Weight : 23 Durability : 754 Infernal Touch (5%)  Flame Earring IIDefense : 1~2 Weight : 20 Durability : 575 Flame Touch (5%) this is from 16 lvls of the only mob except a boss that drops the vials for proc. If theres a decent proc set on dsoma i would be surprised =) I do alreeet thou
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this is from 16 lvls of the only mob except a boss that drops the vials for proc. If theres a decent proc set on dsoma i would be surprised =)
I do alreeet thou
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#143 2018/06/05 11:20:37 |
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ok im biting here but this is the set i used against influence in afro video
it blatantly shows i dont stand a chance dropping him 1v1 but thats not the point here (actually had a better nek which i rip'd after) . i threw the zombie comment at him to get a bite and it worked was all, realistically nobody should drop in pvp without zombie when 1v1 (except mages vs swords and spears as can be one hit) [Rare] Boots of Invulnerability (M)+3Defense : 20~26 Weight : 26 Durability : 837 Req. Con : 139 Infernal Touch (5%) [Epic] Pads of Invulnerability (M)+3Defense : 25~42 Weight : 37 Durability : 1612 Req. Con : 139 Infernal Touch (5%) [Epic] Armor of Invulnerability (M)+3Defense : 25~39 Weight : 30 Durability : 1240 Req. Con : 139 Infernal Touch (5%)  [Epic] Supreme Helm (M)+3Defense : 6~16 Weight : 11 Durability : 1222 Req. Con : 107 Flame Touch (5%) [Rare] Flame Earring II+3Defense : 1~2 Weight : 23 Durability : 1200 Flame Touch (8%) [Rare] Infernal Necklace IIDefense : 1~2 Weight : 23 Durability : 817 Infernal Touch (5%)  ma+5Weight : 2 Durability : 3819 Magic Attack + 10 r u str?+5Weight : 2 Durability : 3132 Magic Attack + 10  [Intense] Staff of ShadowsAttack : 22~40 Weight : 10 Durability : 2641 Speed : E(1116) Req. Int : 131 Req. Skill : 130 Magic Attack + 33~43 and FYI merlin was actually created day 1 of this server so do some homework before spouting rubbish :) sadly this thread was productive for a while and now its just the usual bs and to musa i have no recording software currently but did test and mage vs 110 axer does 27% damage without ma access ( which would be needed if wanted highest proc %) with outrageously good ma access (proc armour) did 34% per hit. so would substantially drop vs other classes as their wis is much higher this was against a capped axer with 88 wis as thats all i have left after melee stats incidentally i dealt 36-42% damage each hit with 0 attack gear and intense aoo
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[quote="MERLIN"]ok im biting here but this is the set i used against influence in afro video
it blatantly shows i dont stand a chance dropping him 1v1 but thats not the point here (actually had a better nek which i rip'd after) . i threw the zombie comment at him to get a bite and it worked was all, realistically nobody should drop in pvp without zombie when 1v1 (except mages vs swords and spears as can be one hit)
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and FYI merlin was actually created day 1 of this server so do some homework before spouting rubbish :)
sadly this thread was productive for a while and now its just the usual bs
and to musa i have no recording software currently but did test and mage vs 110 axer does 27% damage without ma access ( which would be needed if wanted highest proc %)
with outrageously good ma access (proc armour) did 34% per hit.
so would substantially drop vs other classes as their wis is much higher
this was against a capped axer with 88 wis as thats all i have left after melee stats
incidentally i dealt 36-42% damage each hit with 0 attack gear and intense aoo[/quote]
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#144 2018/06/05 12:04:33 |
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SAM0 |
"IBEX"Hsoma maybe a god set, I've had a better set than this sitting on my store for years! I'll pm you later
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[quote="SAM0"][quote="IBEX"]Hsoma maybe a god set,
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this is from 16 lvls of the only mob except a boss that drops the vials for proc. If theres a decent proc set on dsoma i would be surprised =)
I do alreeet thou
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I've had a better set than this sitting on my store for years! I'll pm you later[/quote]
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#145 2018/06/05 15:09:26 |
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BEACHSHORTS |
Everybody keeps saying 'testing' as though this were the be-all end-all argument but tbf a Type-B analysis from an experienced player should be sufficient to get a good impression of what is possible - that is if you were to roughly guess the upper and lower limits and assume a (probably) normal distribution between the two we would basically know what was going on.
Not that i'm that experienced but in the limited experience I do have Archer is clearly OP, mage is okay in the sense that it kills fast, dies fast. Everybody else needs a buff - 5th sword to 200%?
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[quote="BEACHSHORTS"]Everybody keeps saying 'testing' as though this were the be-all end-all argument but tbf a Type-B analysis from an experienced player should be sufficient to get a good impression of what is possible - that is if you were to roughly guess the upper and lower limits and assume a (probably) normal distribution between the two we would basically know what was going on.
Not that i'm that experienced but in the limited experience I do have Archer is clearly OP, mage is okay in the sense that it kills fast, dies fast.
Everybody else needs a buff - 5th sword to 200%?[/quote]
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#146 2018/06/05 15:39:39 |
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ALEXISONFIRE |
This tread has been massively taken off course....
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#147 2018/06/05 15:49:57 |
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LUPISCUS |
Up the crafting skill from 200 max in 1 skill and make stinger tier weps craftable would be nice x
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#148 2018/06/05 16:38:50 |
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FOXTRCK |
Lupiscus. I speak for the server when I say, the crafting cap should not be raised, you've done your duty. Rest now son. :P
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#149 2018/06/05 18:34:06 |
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BEACHSHORTS |
Nah I am a Lupi dick-rider here - delete d-soma, up h-soma wep & crafting skill. Double maps & skins for hsoma!
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#150 2018/06/05 19:11:09 |
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