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So i popped on a few times over the last few days to see whats cracking as i was always planning on coming back after my fight...and tbh the game is dead and i think so for a few reasons...And before i start this thread isnt about "me" or a guild thing its my opinion on the current state of the game.

1: The Ban culture.

It seems many people were banned over the last 18 months for various things. Why not just unban everyone but give them 1 more chance, if they do something again then they gone for good. and draw a line under anything in the past that was said in private groups etc. So everyone has a fresh start. I know a certain key players left due to an attempted ban due to something that was said in a private group 7 months prier. Its just stupid. Wipe the slate clean and get everyone back in game.

2: Give the old school players something to come back for that will last.

Yes cap raise is a must but....They need to hunt for new weapons as well. New armour is already in game imo you got hero 2, fort plates, oes , intense bit bone helms etc. So armour can still be worked on. But weps are still the same .

How about bring a new wep tier out that shak or a new boss will drop. Then make all other bosses and MAGS drop the current top weps. So pammy, tier, CPQ etc all drop the current top tier weps along with mags but at a very low rate (a bit faster than boar imo)

Personally if i had a place where i cud actually mine to get a new spear or sword etc i would work at it. Currently mining boars is not worth it for the weps hence why no-one really does it. I had 1 rare wep capping 3 chars there. And remember on average you need 20 weps to make a +5 mathematically

This way its going to take a long time to get a new +8 wep maybe 2-3 years but will give people something to aim for.

I also stand by having the skill so you can use 3 weapons will help with people wanting to make a new wep. thus playing more.

3: The game only really works with a good UC, with no1 mining there is no trades, the economy stops. People get bored and quit. IF we can get more people back to mining for items again as above this would also bring a lot more lower tier items into game i.e tabs so they can be traded with other players. I did 2-3 shouts yesterday offering dias, tabs etc and had no pms i presume due to low UC and people now having items to trade. Where before i would have had a lot of pms when i said i was selling dias and rubies

Ill wait for this to turn into a flame thread as usual, but atleast its off my chest.
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[quote="SUBXERO"]So i popped on a few times over the last few days to see whats cracking as i was always planning on coming back after my fight...and tbh the game is dead and i think so for a few reasons...And before i start this thread isnt about "me" or a guild thing its my opinion on the current state of the game. 1: The Ban culture. It seems many people were banned over the last 18 months for various things. Why not just unban everyone but give them 1 more chance, if they do something again then they gone for good. and draw a line under anything in the past that was said in private groups etc. So everyone has a fresh start. I know a certain key players left due to an attempted ban due to something that was said in a private group 7 months prier. Its just stupid. Wipe the slate clean and get everyone back in game. 2: Give the old school players something to come back for that will last. Yes cap raise is a must but....They need to hunt for new weapons as well. New armour is already in game imo you got hero 2, fort plates, oes , intense bit bone helms etc. So armour can still be worked on. But weps are still the same . How about bring a new wep tier out that shak or a new boss will drop. Then make all other bosses and MAGS drop the current top weps. So pammy, tier, CPQ etc all drop the current top tier weps along with mags but at a very low rate (a bit faster than boar imo) Personally if i had a place where i cud actually mine to get a new spear or sword etc i would work at it. Currently mining boars is not worth it for the weps hence why no-one really does it. I had 1 rare wep capping 3 chars there. And remember on average you need 20 weps to make a +5 mathematically This way its going to take a long time to get a new +8 wep maybe 2-3 years but will give people something to aim for. I also stand by having the skill so you can use 3 weapons will help with people wanting to make a new wep. thus playing more. 3: The game only really works with a good UC, with no1 mining there is no trades, the economy stops. People get bored and quit. IF we can get more people back to mining for items again as above this would also bring a lot more lower tier items into game i.e tabs so they can be traded with other players. I did 2-3 shouts yesterday offering dias, tabs etc and had no pms i presume due to low UC and people now having items to trade. Where before i would have had a lot of pms when i said i was selling dias and rubies Ill wait for this to turn into a flame thread as usual, but atleast its off my chest. [/quote]
I agree with you on the economy front it’s dwindled massively. Boars drop rate on EVERYTHING is shocking, even over double weekend it was shocking.

As for unbanning people I completely disagree. People break the rules and tough they are gone - I personally lost two chars (should’ve been one but hey ho) if you unban people it’s an easy way for them to get any items sat on that account, most people who are a high level that got banned will have a second / third char so hey are still ingame.
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[quote="TYRESE"]I agree with you on the economy front it’s dwindled massively. Boars drop rate on EVERYTHING is shocking, even over double weekend it was shocking. As for unbanning people I completely disagree. People break the rules and tough they are gone - I personally lost two chars (should’ve been one but hey ho) if you unban people it’s an easy way for them to get any items sat on that account, most people who are a high level that got banned will have a second / third char so hey are still ingame.[/quote]
+1 to the majority of your points, I've killed almost 9k mags and only ever had 1 epic stinger drop that was potato attack.

New weps would be really nice, Also i love the idea of being able to choose 3 weps
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[quote="DEAMOND"]+1 to the majority of your points, I've killed almost 9k mags and only ever had 1 epic stinger drop that was potato attack. New weps would be really nice, Also i love the idea of being able to choose 3 weps [/quote]
Once the cap raise comes in it will pick up again.. game always goes in cycles. Nothing to do with bans
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[quote="DEATHNOTE"]Once the cap raise comes in it will pick up again.. game always goes in cycles. Nothing to do with bans[/quote]
I came hsoma after dsoma char bans. deserved them then. would i like them to be playable (ofc) but they would sit dormant now tbh as i play my human now and im actually enjoying leveling. only thing that i would get out of an unban would be dsoma items to trade away for some human stuff lol. so unban would only help players. as very few have actually *quit* they are on new chars or the opposite race
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[quote="FRINGE"]I came hsoma after dsoma char bans. deserved them then. would i like them to be playable (ofc) but they would sit dormant now tbh as i play my human now and im actually enjoying leveling. only thing that i would get out of an unban would be dsoma items to trade away for some human stuff lol. so unban would only help players. as very few have actually *quit* they are on new chars or the opposite race[/quote]
wb ;)

as regards bans.. perma has only 1 meaning..and thankfully player requests to ban/unban ppl doesnt happen..its the sole discretion of the gms..

new wep tiers ye ye go go..... x

imo it aint dead here... just the vk/dl pk fights aint happening anymore...

and like deathnote says.. more levs/drops/items/ stats is all thats needed..and as proly gms working on this atm for the next update...some sensible ideas/ suggestions be more than welcome... the sooner the better.... as if the update is 8 weeksish away..... fin aint got long to implement any new good ideas.... post ur ideas imo
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]wb ;) as regards bans.. perma has only 1 meaning..and thankfully player requests to ban/unban ppl doesnt happen..its the sole discretion of the gms.. new wep tiers ye ye go go..... x imo it aint dead here... just the vk/dl pk fights aint happening anymore... and like deathnote says.. more levs/drops/items/ stats is all thats needed..and as proly gms working on this atm for the next update...some sensible ideas/ suggestions be more than welcome... the sooner the better.... as if the update is 8 weeksish away..... fin aint got long to implement any new good ideas.... post ur ideas imo[/quote]
ok i agree - if people are unban there account should have no items. But if they get there char back they will hopefully play again.

The cap raise alone will be fine for 2 months then it will die again. People need something more longterm to aim for...that they can work towards daily. as i mentioned above.


Having use of 3 weapons opens up a HUGE opportunity for people to make use of the swords, knux and spears that are not used as much as bow/axe. and this would stop myth of bows.

Personally i have to use bow/axe for stone and pvp. It would be stupid to drop either. So if i had a sword/knux/spear option i would 100% work towards that as would most other people, it works well for bosses and certain pvp situation like gvw.

New auras would be awesome as well but again something that you have to grind to get.

The whole VK vs DL thing that we got going on when me and tom took charge was by fat the best plae i had seen the server at. But a lot of players quit due to issues i have spoke about as above. So this would sure be back if the players had something new to work towards that is worth them doing.





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[quote="SUBXERO"]ok i agree - if people are unban there account should have no items. But if they get there char back they will hopefully play again. The cap raise alone will be fine for 2 months then it will die again. People need something more longterm to aim for...that they can work towards daily. as i mentioned above. Having use of 3 weapons opens up a HUGE opportunity for people to make use of the swords, knux and spears that are not used as much as bow/axe. and this would stop myth of bows. Personally i have to use bow/axe for stone and pvp. It would be stupid to drop either. So if i had a sword/knux/spear option i would 100% work towards that as would most other people, it works well for bosses and certain pvp situation like gvw. New auras would be awesome as well but again something that you have to grind to get. The whole VK vs DL thing that we got going on when me and tom took charge was by fat the best plae i had seen the server at. But a lot of players quit due to issues i have spoke about as above. So this would sure be back if the players had something new to work towards that is worth them doing. [/quote]
considering the reams of pages of suggestions for the last update.......new ideas seem lacking atm..get them in !
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]considering the reams of pages of suggestions for the last update.......new ideas seem lacking atm..get them in ![/quote]
This is where abyss would be good, but without the old esoma weps. Bring abyss and the items back so you can farm to get a. Blue mystical gem and phoenix spirit/dias/ swift spirits. Bring ivory back. You'll never get bored then as there is so much to hunt there.
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[quote="NODE"]This is where abyss would be good, but without the old esoma weps. Bring abyss and the items back so you can farm to get a. Blue mystical gem and phoenix spirit/dias/ swift spirits. Bring ivory back. You'll never get bored then as there is so much to hunt there. [/quote]
New weaps would be great and maybe different colour skins of them drop? Or...They all drop transparent and then you add your own colour, maybe to match your shout scroll or something (if that's possible and doable to implement)?
I agree that drop rates need looking at. I only remember 2 Epic Stingers dropping in 7K+ of Mags myself.
I saw a nice difference with that extra drop rate recently, that would be fine, nothing too major really.
I've spent hours at Mags before and not even had a small, just tagged bone and the good old GTRs.
The drop rates and new weapons as others have stated certainly stand out as things that would maintain/raise the UC.
+1 to bringing The Abyss back also.

†BTVS™ © ®


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[quote="BUFFY"]New weaps would be great and maybe different colour skins of them drop? Or...They all drop transparent and then you add your own colour, maybe to match your shout scroll or something (if that's possible and doable to implement)? I agree that drop rates need looking at. I only remember 2 Epic Stingers dropping in 7K+ of Mags myself. I saw a nice difference with that extra drop rate recently, that would be fine, nothing too major really. I've spent hours at Mags before and not even had a small, just tagged bone and the good old GTRs. The drop rates and new weapons as others have stated certainly stand out as things that would maintain/raise the UC. +1 to bringing The Abyss back also. †BTVS™ © ® [/quote]
1/ no upper limit in crafting skills so one chr can hold as many skills as you like
2/ Bringing back the abis is a nice suggestion - would need some thought as to drops files / drop rates / etc, but I presume a reasonably straightforward process?
3/ Increase total weapons skills to say 500 total - with the ability to lock skills when they are at the level you want them to be.
4/ Have a long look at Boars drop rates - even bones do not seem to drop much anymore...…….
5/ crafter-issued SR tokens would be good
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[quote="MICKYC"]1/ no upper limit in crafting skills so one chr can hold as many skills as you like 2/ Bringing back the abis is a nice suggestion - would need some thought as to drops files / drop rates / etc, but I presume a reasonably straightforward process? 3/ Increase total weapons skills to say 500 total - with the ability to lock skills when they are at the level you want them to be. 4/ Have a long look at Boars drop rates - even bones do not seem to drop much anymore...……. 5/ crafter-issued SR tokens would be good[/quote]
+on abyss

Maybe have a look at the dungeons too. Apart from skellies in D1 (for the level 104 quest) and devil warriors in D3, it’s pretty much completely unused. In fairness I don’t think I’ve ever been to D4 as it just seems a waste of time.

Maybe move devil warriors to D2
Have either mags or board in d3
A new mob in d4 for level cap (this would probs involve having to remove the boxes or something though)
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]+on abyss Maybe have a look at the dungeons too. Apart from skellies in D1 (for the level 104 quest) and devil warriors in D3, it’s pretty much completely unused. In fairness I don’t think I’ve ever been to D4 as it just seems a waste of time. Maybe move devil warriors to D2 Have either mags or board in d3 A new mob in d4 for level cap (this would probs involve having to remove the boxes or something though)[/quote]
Reverse the PK change.
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[quote="FLAWLESS"]Reverse the PK change.[/quote]
"FLAWLESS"Reverse the PK change.


Make PK only active every other day.
See what usercounts have been like during pk/non pk days.

I also think the nastiness of some of the community drives many players away.
Don't just ask the GMs for more more more all the time, clean up your act as well.

†BTVS™ © ®
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[quote="BUFFY"][quote="FLAWLESS"]Reverse the PK change.[/quote] Make PK only active every other day. See what usercounts have been like during pk/non pk days. I also think the nastiness of some of the community drives many players away. Don't just ask the GMs for more more more all the time, clean up your act as well. †BTVS™ © ® [/quote]
"MICKYC"1/ no upper limit in crafting skills so one chr can hold as many skills as you like
2/ Bringing back the abis is a nice suggestion - would need some thought as to drops files / drop rates / etc, but I presume a reasonably straightforward process?
3/ Increase total weapons skills to say 500 total - with the ability to lock skills when they are at the level you want them to be.
4/ Have a long look at Boars drop rates - even bones do not seem to drop much anymore...…….
5/ crafter-issued SR tokens would be good


love this
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[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="MICKYC"]1/ no upper limit in crafting skills so one chr can hold as many skills as you like 2/ Bringing back the abis is a nice suggestion - would need some thought as to drops files / drop rates / etc, but I presume a reasonably straightforward process? 3/ Increase total weapons skills to say 500 total - with the ability to lock skills when they are at the level you want them to be. 4/ Have a long look at Boars drop rates - even bones do not seem to drop much anymore...……. 5/ crafter-issued SR tokens would be good[/quote] love this[/quote]

 

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