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TELRIK |
So most of people don't even play anymore.
Makes zero sense!! "XAVIER""AMOEBA"
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[quote="TELRIK"]So most of people don't even play anymore.
Makes zero sense!!
[quote="XAVIER"][quote="AMOEBA"]
What free, open and democratic process was used to elect the council members?
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they was on discord at the time lol and all voted for each other to be members.. Community should of voted for who should of been on council imo. or finito should of decided.
My take on the council.
Foxtrck quit?? hasnt been around that long?
Chojine? Quit also hasnt been around that long? - deleted his char as he said mages are shit? there clearly not LOL?
Remix? - Hasnt been around at ALL. created bots/scripts the likes that pretty much ruined soma and other pservers in the past? LOL?
Unvmeh? Did shit loads for the soma devs community but hasnt even played this server? apologies if im incorrect?
Virgil? - Soma legend!! 1 of best players in esoma. his knowledge is insane! - speaks for itself.
subxero? - hmmm good ideas. wants to do his best for the game, yet hated by 50% of the community. lol
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#31 2019/10/06 09:27:28 |
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CAPRICORN |
Well lads, this seems like the end of the line for me; played numerous characters over the 6 years that soma's been out, it's been fun.
Have a good one, hope everyone has fun! |
#32 2019/10/06 09:34:26 |
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BLIGHT |
Everyones being a bit harsh:
Foxtrck: is very well spoken and clearly wants what's best for the game, helping out with eents etc in the past. Chojine: Will literally be the guy to produce new armours and weps that aren't reskinned ones or whatever (I don't think i've ever seen new armour skins in any server, maybe wrong) Remix: Can create tools and will be able to converse with finito etc about stuff 90% of us don't understand (I'm sure in the beginning remix was part of somadev team anyway? or atleast it said on somadev forum he was?) Unvmeh: I don't know much about, pretty sure he has capped a dev and a human though? Virgil: i don't know him personally but it's obvious from Xaviers post he's a wealth of knowledge. SubXero: I personally disagree with sub because his attitude is absolutely toxic at times and he's been banned for cheating and he also plays a massive role in the main feud (I agree with OCD no one at the top of the feud should be in a position to influence the game), Although his early vids and tutorials are helpful.
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[quote="BLIGHT"]Everyones being a bit harsh:
Foxtrck: is very well spoken and clearly wants what's best for the game, helping out with eents etc in the past.
Chojine: Will literally be the guy to produce new armours and weps that aren't reskinned ones or whatever (I don't think i've ever seen new armour skins in any server, maybe wrong)
Remix: Can create tools and will be able to converse with finito etc about stuff 90% of us don't understand (I'm sure in the beginning remix was part of somadev team anyway? or atleast it said on somadev forum he was?)
Unvmeh: I don't know much about, pretty sure he has capped a dev and a human though?
Virgil: i don't know him personally but it's obvious from Xaviers post he's a wealth of knowledge.
SubXero: I personally disagree with sub because his attitude is absolutely toxic at times and he's been banned for cheating and he also plays a massive role in the main feud (I agree with OCD no one at the top of the feud should be in a position to influence the game), Although his early vids and tutorials are helpful.[/quote]
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#33 2019/10/06 09:36:20 |
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"CAPRICORN"Well lads, this seems like the end of the line for me; played numerous characters over the 6 years that soma's been out, it's been fun. I wonder what made you decide to leave the server. Does it have to do with current ideas, current council candidates, the identification process of this council or something else? The idea of this council looks tempting, but comes with serious consequences: - People might leave because not everyone feels represented; - Ideas should be discussed in transparency with all pro's, con's & impact to the impact of the server and it's players; - Frequent changes to the candidates of these 'functions' should be facilitated (democracy); - Public participation should not be left aside to ensure the quality of decisions & increase acceptance. All this should come with more rules & administration. I would like to repeat my previous questions as I would like to see these asnwered: "WASMAND"This is aboslutely not how you should manage a decent "community council". This looks like favoritism.
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[quote="WASMAND"][quote="CAPRICORN"]Well lads, this seems like the end of the line for me; played numerous characters over the 6 years that soma's been out, it's been fun.
Have a good one, hope everyone has fun![/quote]
I wonder what made you decide to leave the server. Does it have to do with current ideas, current council candidates, the identification process of this council or something else?
The idea of this council looks tempting, but comes with serious consequences:
- People might leave because not everyone feels represented;
- Ideas should be discussed in transparency with all pro's, con's & impact to the impact of the server and it's players;
- Frequent changes to the candidates of these 'functions' should be facilitated (democracy);
- Public participation should not be left aside to ensure the quality of decisions & increase acceptance.
All this should come with more rules & administration.
I would like to repeat my previous questions as I would like to see these asnwered:
[quote="WASMAND"]This is aboslutely not how you should manage a decent "community council". This looks like favoritism.
A council of the community should be chosen by the community itself, not randomly chosen favourits. It now really looks like a system from Northen Korea.
A few open questions come to mind:
1. What were the selection criteria to choose for these candidates?
2. Why is there absolutely no transparancy in the selection process?
3. Why is there not a possibililty to vote for any kind of candidate as population?
Therefore, @Finito: Solve this. This is not how you should do this if you want to build/keep a healthy community.[/quote][/quote]
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#34 2019/10/06 09:56:19 |
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MAVERICK |
I dont see why people are having issues with this. The past year everyone has said they wanted more content more stuff to do. A few lads put it to fin that they could help and he agreed.
It's not like they are getting powers or anything. And if you go on discord where it is still being discussed then I'm sure if you want to be a part of it and have your uses, then you will be used too. A lot of people bashing others for being on the "council" But who would you replace? And with who? To promote the game, the guys who put it out their in vids etc. The top 3 would be afro matty and link imo. 2 of them are not currently playing. And I'm 100% sure if they came back then them 2 would be on there aswell to help with video editing and making guides etc. Same goes for the others on the council. Choline and remix and ( one more i forgot) know how to create new armours weps shields etc. So why not use their skills to do this?
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[quote="MAVERICK"]I dont see why people are having issues with this. The past year everyone has said they wanted more content more stuff to do. A few lads put it to fin that they could help and he agreed.
It's not like they are getting powers or anything.
And if you go on discord where it is still being discussed then I'm sure if you want to be a part of it and have your uses, then you will be used too.
A lot of people bashing others for being on the "council"
But who would you replace? And with who?
To promote the game, the guys who put it out their in vids etc. The top 3 would be afro matty and link imo. 2 of them are not currently playing. And I'm 100% sure if they came back then them 2 would be on there aswell to help with video editing and making guides etc.
Same goes for the others on the council.
Choline and remix and ( one more i forgot) know how to create new armours weps shields etc. So why not use their skills to do this? [/quote]
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#35 2019/10/06 09:59:42 |
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H2O |
"DEVONNE""RAZOR" As Above... A) the rates are too fast now for it to be oven worth the time trying to get the armor and weps you need. Its easier just to power through to the more easily accessible stuff. Just put all noob Armour and weps up to gold into the NPC's and be done with it. B) lets be realistic there wont be many legitimate "New" players. Just focus on better content to bring people back.
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[quote="H2O"][quote="DEVONNE"][quote="RAZOR"]
I think you guys should consider someone who might have more insight on the flaws in the early game to add to the list and what might be putting new players off.
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There is no "early game".
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As Above...
A) the rates are too fast now for it to be oven worth the time trying to get the armor and weps you need. Its easier just to power through to the more easily accessible stuff. Just put all noob Armour and weps up to gold into the NPC's and be done with it.
B) lets be realistic there wont be many legitimate "New" players. Just focus on better content to bring people back.[/quote]
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#36 2019/10/06 10:00:19 |
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"H2O" Even if you forget "New" players, why would someone who played ESoma for a 1000++ hours even want to play this game? The game they played doesn't even exist, sure you can blast through the levelling part for a bit of a quick nostalgia but the bulk of this game isn't a levelling game, it's a capped farming game that barely resembles the game they once played and that gets more true with every update.
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[quote="DEVONNE"][quote="H2O"]
B) lets be realistic there wont be many legitimate "New" players. Just focus on better content to bring people back.[/quote]
Even if you forget "New" players, why would someone who played ESoma for a 1000++ hours even want to play this game? The game they played doesn't even exist, sure you can blast through the levelling part for a bit of a quick nostalgia but the bulk of this game isn't a levelling game, it's a capped farming game that barely resembles the game they once played and that gets more true with every update.[/quote]
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#37 2019/10/06 10:09:21 |
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LUPISCUS |
anything new can only be good.. if we don't like anything suggested or implemented we can have a moan about it as usual.. gl to all on the 'council'
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#38 2019/10/06 10:15:01 |
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PAPA |
😂 😂 😂 😂
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#39 2019/10/06 10:18:43 |
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MONSTERMAN |
Oh Looking forward for this :)
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#40 2019/10/06 10:33:39 |
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DARE |
"SUBXERO"Lets be clear all am doing is promotion/videos/podcast etc 😂😂😂 I think most people agree that a change is required and the list of council are fine minus yourself. Lets give a taste of the abuse/bs you give people when you returned to the game few months ago.. constantly accusing me in game and forum of botting and buying sh1t from china lol. https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqhv6NTrjp https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqhvXXTrQx Now you was (not long ago) disillusion and using Finitos name to try and scare people off, saying he has confirmed to you I will get banned (based on rumors you started and in the past got banned for...). You can be easily ignored back then but now, being in discussions with him as a council - this sh1t will become 100x worse. I don't even play right now but defo if you want certain guilds to come back in the future, remove yourself from this list. Posting videos shouldn't be a critera to getting any special voice as I posted over 3.5x more soma videos in my channel. Korean representative is a must, if anyone on the council made half an effort to contact them, then you would defo have a volunteer. Dosgardenias and Ogre come to mind. These guys are fantastic and are trying to build the community also. China voice would be good if there was many chinese playing? if its china_007 and his 1-2 minions, they only play for irl profit and should not be considered lol. Virgil is a character who is being used by many people, last i checked original virgil has quit - need to be specific who you referring to here.
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[quote="DARE"][quote="SUBXERO"]Lets be clear all am doing is promotion/videos/podcast etc 😂😂😂
I can only see good things coming from this personally [/quote]
I think most people agree that a change is required and the list of council are fine minus yourself.
Lets give a taste of the abuse/bs you give people when you returned to the game few months ago.. constantly accusing me in game and forum of botting and buying sh1t from china lol.
[url]https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqhv6NTrjp[/url]
[url]https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqhvXXTrQx[/url]
Now you was (not long ago) disillusion and using Finitos name to try and scare people off, saying he has confirmed to you I will get banned (based on rumors you started and in the past got banned for...). You can be easily ignored back then but now, being in discussions with him as a council - this sh1t will become 100x worse.
I don't even play right now but defo if you want certain guilds to come back in the future, remove yourself from this list.
Posting videos shouldn't be a critera to getting any special voice as I posted over 3.5x more soma videos in my channel.
Korean representative is a must, if anyone on the council made half an effort to contact them, then you would defo have a volunteer. Dosgardenias and Ogre come to mind. These guys are fantastic and are trying to build the community also.
China voice would be good if there was many chinese playing? if its china_007 and his 1-2 minions, they only play for irl profit and should not be considered lol.
Virgil is a character who is being used by many people, last i checked original virgil has quit - need to be specific who you referring to here.[/quote]
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#41 2019/10/06 11:08:31 |
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MORTY |
Lets be honest the soma discord is biased to VK anyway, Dan and Fin both busy with irl to manage it so its left to nite who boots people off who call out him and his chronies. as someone else has said, the council shouldn't be made up of anyone from the main pvp guilds.
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[quote="MORTY"]Lets be honest the soma discord is biased to VK anyway, Dan and Fin both busy with irl to manage it so its left to nite who boots people off who call out him and his chronies. as someone else has said, the council shouldn't be made up of anyone from the main pvp guilds.[/quote]
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#42 2019/10/06 11:12:29 |
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LINNYI |
Hate to add to this in a negative form but which Sub is it going to be on the council?
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#43 2019/10/06 11:24:12 |
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OXANA |
Page 3 already in no time, this council whoever is on it is gonna be busy lol.
It already rests it's case of it's need by the many views put up in a short time. It's a free game and the council are giving their own free time so give it a chance. |
#44 2019/10/06 11:24:20 |
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DEAMOND |
The answer is simple, it would seem subxero has rustled demlawz jimmies
"Community Council" discuss suggestion, put it forward to dan/finito for approval, then it should go to a public community vote on forum for approval. Sounds like people are just throwing their toys out their pram because of personal vendettas, Do you really think Dan would approve something that is clearly biased??
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[quote="DEAMOND"]The answer is simple, it would seem subxero has rustled demlawz jimmies
"Community Council" discuss suggestion, put it forward to dan/finito for approval, then it should go to a public community vote on forum for approval.
Sounds like people are just throwing their toys out their pram because of personal vendettas, Do you really think Dan would approve something that is clearly biased?? [/quote]
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#45 2019/10/06 11:26:11 |
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