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This is cool, I hope it works out the way it is intended, i do believe anyone that has been banned for buying items is a bad example to have represent a council though.

My first question i'd like to ask...
Are any suggestions you guys put forward to the GM going to be discussed and maybe even voted on within the community?
An example of why it needs to happen is that "Prestige levelling" idea subxero keeps throwing around, which is in my opinion far more damaging than helpful, we would have the no life multi's running around with 300 more hp 500 more stam and 200 more bag weight at the cap, in a game of this size it would become totally unbalanced and a right sh*t show for us normal folk.
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[quote="BLIGHT"]This is cool, I hope it works out the way it is intended, i do believe anyone that has been banned for buying items is a bad example to have represent a council though. My first question i'd like to ask... Are any suggestions you guys put forward to the GM going to be discussed and maybe even voted on within the community? An example of why it needs to happen is that "Prestige levelling" idea subxero keeps throwing around, which is in my opinion far more damaging than helpful, we would have the no life multi's running around with 300 more hp 500 more stam and 200 more bag weight at the cap, in a game of this size it would become totally unbalanced and a right sh*t show for us normal folk.[/quote]
This is a great idea.
Some concerns though.
What free, open and democratic process was used to elect the council members? And .. what criteria and influence in the implementation of any game changes, will ur average player have? or is it just going to be done behind closed doors?

The Wheeltappers and Shunters Club was good in its day..but u wouldnt want them running your country.
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[quote="AMOEBA"]This is a great idea. Some concerns though. What free, open and democratic process was used to elect the council members? And .. what criteria and influence in the implementation of any game changes, will ur average player have? or is it just going to be done behind closed doors? The Wheeltappers and Shunters Club was good in its day..but u wouldnt want them running your country. [/quote]
aslong as none of them council members get gm access or the ability to do shit to the server, im fine. cos yall be corrupt af if u got ur hands on it.

and lets hope u dont just change shit to your own ideas and you let the community vote..

ive already heard that they wanna bring the stat allocation shite into hsoma. do that and im sure rest of hsoma quits. 0 fking reason to make a char if u can just walk out n punch brics to lvl 120 and end up same stats to someone who has actaully tried to make a good stat char.

Finito is our savior :D
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[quote="XAVIER"]aslong as none of them council members get gm access or the ability to do shit to the server, im fine. cos yall be corrupt af if u got ur hands on it. and lets hope u dont just change shit to your own ideas and you let the community vote.. ive already heard that they wanna bring the stat allocation shite into hsoma. do that and im sure rest of hsoma quits. 0 fking reason to make a char if u can just walk out n punch brics to lvl 120 and end up same stats to someone who has actaully tried to make a good stat char. Finito is our savior :D [/quote]
I don't think anybody would argue with Foxy/Chojine/Ravensoul or Remix for needed software support, but Subxero will taint the council in many people's opinion.
However, he does have the ability to promote the game which not many do.
As long as certain people like Mitchy/Tyrese/Syonide aren't there then I'd have confidence in it, so it has my support. I'd also like to see a Chinese representative on the council along with an Eastern block player.

This council also needs some power, to have lengthy discussions with GMs about banned people/people who haven't been banned but should have etc. as people just want fairness at the end of the day.

If the council pushes for doubling crafting/levelling rates as a matter of urgency and this gets implemented (like who doesn't want that? And it's needed) then the council will gain a lot of support and give it a great start.

Things like Anvil changes and other ideas like +8 possible on armour/weapons/new weapons/endgame/mob rebalancing so many more mobs are used etc can be discussed at a later time.
Just what I think.
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[quote="OXANA"]I don't think anybody would argue with Foxy/Chojine/Ravensoul or Remix for needed software support, but Subxero will taint the council in many people's opinion. However, he does have the ability to promote the game which not many do. As long as certain people like Mitchy/Tyrese/Syonide aren't there then I'd have confidence in it, so it has my support. I'd also like to see a Chinese representative on the council along with an Eastern block player. This council also needs some power, to have lengthy discussions with GMs about banned people/people who haven't been banned but should have etc. as people just want fairness at the end of the day. If the council pushes for doubling crafting/levelling rates as a matter of urgency and this gets implemented (like who doesn't want that? And it's needed) then the council will gain a lot of support and give it a great start. Things like Anvil changes and other ideas like +8 possible on armour/weapons/new weapons/endgame/mob rebalancing so many more mobs are used etc can be discussed at a later time. Just what I think. [/quote]
"LEADEROFMOS"If I needed anymore validation I left this game at the right time this is probably it

I wish you well, but with one of the most corrupt, cheating and self obsessed person I’ve ever met on this I can’t see how you will achieve anything.

Was a fun few years anyone .

Nails in coffin a bit deeper in my opinion.

Take care all,

Adam


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[quote="DIAMANDA"][quote="LEADEROFMOS"]If I needed anymore validation I left this game at the right time this is probably it I wish you well, but with one of the most corrupt, cheating and self obsessed person I’ve ever met on this I can’t see how you will achieve anything. Was a fun few years anyone . Nails in coffin a bit deeper in my opinion. Take care all, Adam [/quote] [img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd5BnvRDa-U4Qw-aF3_R8jBFGHSwgRta_EPyCnASr9_J5ac2NQ[/img][/quote]
"AMOEBA"
What free, open and democratic process was used to elect the council members?



they was on discord at the time lol and all voted for each other to be members.. Community should of voted for who should of been on council imo. or finito should of decided.

My take on the council.
Foxtrck quit?? hasnt been around that long?
Chojine? Quit also hasnt been around that long? - deleted his char as he said mages are shit? there clearly not LOL?
Remix? - Hasnt been around at ALL. created bots/scripts the likes that pretty much ruined soma and other pservers in the past? LOL?
Unvmeh? Did shit loads for the soma devs community but hasnt even played this server? apologies if im incorrect?
Virgil? - Soma legend!! 1 of best players in esoma. his knowledge is insane! - speaks for itself.
subxero? - hmmm good ideas. wants to do his best for the game, yet hated by 50% of the community. lol


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[quote="XAVIER"][quote="AMOEBA"] What free, open and democratic process was used to elect the council members? [/quote] they was on discord at the time lol and all voted for each other to be members.. Community should of voted for who should of been on council imo. or finito should of decided. My take on the council. Foxtrck quit?? hasnt been around that long? Chojine? Quit also hasnt been around that long? - deleted his char as he said mages are shit? there clearly not LOL? Remix? - Hasnt been around at ALL. created bots/scripts the likes that pretty much ruined soma and other pservers in the past? LOL? Unvmeh? Did shit loads for the soma devs community but hasnt even played this server? apologies if im incorrect? Virgil? - Soma legend!! 1 of best players in esoma. his knowledge is insane! - speaks for itself. subxero? - hmmm good ideas. wants to do his best for the game, yet hated by 50% of the community. lol [/quote]
Lets be clear all am doing is promotion/videos/podcast etc 😂😂😂

No1 is having “gm” powers etc

Finto will be making all the decisions its just he has some tech guys now to help him and other people to take the load off other things

Lets face is without a new team to help fin nothing will get done, so lets give it a go and see what happens shall we?

I can only see good things coming from this personally
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[quote="SUBXERO"]Lets be clear all am doing is promotion/videos/podcast etc 😂😂😂 No1 is having “gm” powers etc Finto will be making all the decisions its just he has some tech guys now to help him and other people to take the load off other things Lets face is without a new team to help fin nothing will get done, so lets give it a go and see what happens shall we? I can only see good things coming from this personally [/quote]
more heads together and ideas with gm supervision can only be a good thing..So good luck to the council
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[quote="AMOEBA"]more heads together and ideas with gm supervision can only be a good thing..So good luck to the council [/quote]
This is aboslutely not how you should manage a decent "community council". This looks like favoritism.
A council of the community should be chosen by the community itself, not randomly chosen favourits. It now really looks like a system from Northen Korea.

A few open questions come to mind:
1. What were the selection criteria to choose for these candidates?
2. Why is there absolutely no transparancy in the selection process?
3. Why is there not a possibililty to vote for any kind of candidate as population?

Therefore, @Finito: Solve this. This is not how you should do this if you want to build/keep a healthy community.
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[quote="WASMAND"]This is aboslutely not how you should manage a decent "community council". This looks like favoritism. A council of the community should be chosen by the community itself, not randomly chosen favourits. It now really looks like a system from Northen Korea. A few open questions come to mind: 1. What were the selection criteria to choose for these candidates? 2. Why is there absolutely no transparancy in the selection process? 3. Why is there not a possibililty to vote for any kind of candidate as population? Therefore, @Finito: Solve this. This is not how you should do this if you want to build/keep a healthy community.[/quote]
This is how the selection process went.

Fox, cho and fin went into a private channel in discord.

Fox came out and said about the community council idea has been accepted with cho as the leader and he will be selecting his council.

Cho came out and select the names on the first page.

I think you guys should consider someone who might have more insight on the flaws in the early game to add to the list and what might be putting new players off.

I'm going to put together a new drop file list for hsoma in the ideas section this week for people to vote on so we can clear up that early game pre blg mess. Would be handy if someone on dsoma could do the same.
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[quote="RAZOR"]This is how the selection process went. Fox, cho and fin went into a private channel in discord. Fox came out and said about the community council idea has been accepted with cho as the leader and he will be selecting his council. Cho came out and select the names on the first page. I think you guys should consider someone who might have more insight on the flaws in the early game to add to the list and what might be putting new players off. I'm going to put together a new drop file list for hsoma in the ideas section this week for people to vote on so we can clear up that early game pre blg mess. Would be handy if someone on dsoma could do the same.[/quote]
"RAZOR"
I think you guys should consider someone who might have more insight on the flaws in the early game to add to the list and what might be putting new players off.


There is no "early game".
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[quote="DEVONNE"][quote="RAZOR"] I think you guys should consider someone who might have more insight on the flaws in the early game to add to the list and what might be putting new players off. [/quote] There is no "early game". [/quote]
I also think Dsoma and korean/chinese need more representation, Koreans more so as they make up a huge portion of the games usercount.

Rainbow for hsoma and ogre or dosgardenias for dsoma would be worth asking as they seem to be more willing to engage with the community and their english is better than some of the European players lol.
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[quote="BLIGHT"]I also think Dsoma and korean/chinese need more representation, Koreans more so as they make up a huge portion of the games usercount. Rainbow for hsoma and ogre or dosgardenias for dsoma would be worth asking as they seem to be more willing to engage with the community and their english is better than some of the European players lol.[/quote]
Subxero did wrong and was punished, not the world's biggest fan but can't deny the effort he puts in.

Really hoping that this works
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[quote="ISELIX"]Subxero did wrong and was punished, not the world's biggest fan but can't deny the effort he puts in. Really hoping that this works [/quote]
We are trying to sort both china and korea person atm its hard with the language, there are only 2 chinese that play so thats quite easy and the main thing with the china is that he also has 500+ friends who play the china server and if we can get some sort of translator patch for them he thinks they will play our server as its better,

All in good time though there must be 100 + things on fintos list atm so its good he has helps, choji was up till 1am designing new armors etc. So lets give it some time please.
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[quote="SUBXERO"]We are trying to sort both china and korea person atm its hard with the language, there are only 2 chinese that play so thats quite easy and the main thing with the china is that he also has 500+ friends who play the china server and if we can get some sort of translator patch for them he thinks they will play our server as its better, All in good time though there must be 100 + things on fintos list atm so its good he has helps, choji was up till 1am designing new armors etc. So lets give it some time please. [/quote]
My questions stay unanswered.

I do not feel represented by this undemocratic entity.
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[quote="WASMAND"]My questions stay unanswered. I do not feel represented by this undemocratic entity.[/quote]

 

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