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"NIXHER"If KD ratio is to remain, PvP NEEDS to change...

~It first needs a reset; the game has changed so much in the last few years, and plenty of players have KD boosted, at present nobody's KD ratio is an accurate representation of skill, gear or pvp success in the games current PVP dynamics, and if its to change further, resetting it would be even more necessary.

~PK range needs to be lowered, ideally to 5 below and 10 above; this means you cannot farm players much lower than you, a 20 lvl gap is HUGE in regards to stats and gear, killing someone lvl 105 at 125 requires zero skill whatsoever, it also gives those a chance who are 115+ to join in endgame PK if they think they're Man/Woman enough.

~Attacking wicked/devil morale characters needs to be altered to 10 below and 20 above, again preventing certain aspects of grieffing and/or KD boosting.

~I've been toying with the idea that wicked/devil morale players need some sort of safe haven. I realise it goes against the point of being negative morale, and there should be some sort of cool down, limit, entry fee or some control over how it would be used, but to have NOWHERE safe, seems a little odd. Plus a better gypo/PK Town would be nice, get all the naughty gits socialising in one place, accessed by negative morale players only, but not whilst grey, obviously.

~Flinch needs adding back in, and the issues surrounding it fixing, it was a good mechanic with a small fault and adds another dynamic to PVP.

~I'm going to mention it; multiple procs... Hitting with 3x spells at once is OP, warriors agree, mages agree, hsoma and dsoma, enough said, it should be changed.

~Toe to toe PvP is dead, this is a shame, its partly due to almost every char having 5th axe, its been mentioned allot, but nothing changed as of yet. There's ALLOT of different options here, but a common one is raising the skill required for all 5ths to 200, and giving mages 4th staff at 200 skill, raising the skill required for ALL weapons in the Shak & Nega teir, and reducing max skill gains to 399.This would firstly remove stone from alot of mages, but give them 4th, which changes things, secondly it would remove stone from a few warriors who would like to use nega weps in their chosen class, you shouldn't really be able to use 2x nega weps, defeats the object of classes at all. Alot of controversial points in this one, but PvP is stale, and big changes need to be made, unless you all want to run around avoiding getting 5th axed for the next 5 years or whatever.

~When pressing warp and you have ressurection scrolls in your inventory, it should warp you to town using a scroll, rather than drop items, this gives people a chance to escape when confronted with multiple enemies whilst alone, risking getting repeatedly stoned, killed, and eventually risking penalty xp or even dropping gear. I also think the revive range should be slightly increased.

~Something I don't think has been mentioned, /pos & /lastonline. /pos needs to be changed to just show Pos, online or not, and /lastonline removed, or changed to show just the date. This will mean that people aren't logging on, checking who's about, and logging off, at present, most players have a /pos macro and it's being exploited to aid in targeted PK, KD boosting or harassment. This will increase the sense of unknown when you're out hunting, and also searching for PK, hopefully incentivising more players to come back, grind away without fear of being targeted, but also knowing PK could arrive, at the same time incentivising more players to take part in PK, not knowing who you will find or where. I believe this is a really big one that hasn't been mentioned much, if at all, that could make a huge difference in the way PK/KD/Boosting works.

I realise I've gone off topic a bit, but it's all relavent :)

"NIXHER"If KD ratio is to remain, PvP NEEDS to change...

~It first needs a reset; the game has changed so much in the last few years, and plenty of players have KD boosted, at present nobody's KD ratio is an accurate representation of skill, gear or pvp success in the games current PVP dynamics, and if its to change further, resetting it would be even more necessary.

~PK range needs to be lowered, ideally to 5 below and 10 above; this means you cannot farm players much lower than you, a 20 lvl gap is HUGE in regards to stats and gear, killing someone lvl 105 at 125 requires zero skill whatsoever, it also gives those a chance who are 115+ to join in endgame PK if they think they're Man/Woman enough.

~Attacking wicked/devil morale characters needs to be altered to 10 below and 20 above, again preventing certain aspects of grieffing and/or KD boosting.

~I've been toying with the idea that wicked/devil morale players need some sort of safe haven. I realise it goes against the point of being negative morale, and there should be some sort of cool down, limit, entry fee or some control over how it would be used, but to have NOWHERE safe, seems a little odd. Plus a better gypo/PK Town would be nice, get all the naughty gits socialising in one place, accessed by negative morale players only, but not whilst grey, obviously.

~Flinch needs adding back in, and the issues surrounding it fixing, it was a good mechanic with a small fault and adds another dynamic to PVP.

~I'm going to mention it; multiple procs... Hitting with 3x spells at once is OP, warriors agree, mages agree, hsoma and dsoma, enough said, it should be changed.

~Toe to toe PvP is dead, this is a shame, its partly due to almost every char having 5th axe, its been mentioned allot, but nothing changed as of yet. There's ALLOT of different options here, but a common one is raising the skill required for all 5ths to 200, and giving mages 4th staff at 200 skill, raising the skill required for ALL weapons in the Shak & Nega teir, and reducing max skill gains to 399.This would firstly remove stone from alot of mages, but give them 4th, which changes things, secondly it would remove stone from a few warriors who would like to use nega weps in their chosen class, you shouldn't really be able to use 2x nega weps, defeats the object of classes at all. Alot of controversial points in this one, but PvP is stale, and big changes need to be made, unless you all want to run around avoiding getting 5th axed for the next 5 years or whatever.

~When pressing warp and you have ressurection scrolls in your inventory, it should warp you to town using a scroll, rather than drop items, this gives people a chance to escape when confronted with multiple enemies whilst alone, risking getting repeatedly stoned, killed, and eventually risking penalty xp or even dropping gear. I also think the revive range should be slightly increased.

~Something I don't think has been mentioned, /pos & /lastonline. /pos needs to be changed to just show Pos, online or not, and /lastonline removed, or changed to show just the date. This will mean that people aren't logging on, checking who's about, and logging off, at present, most players have a /pos macro and it's being exploited to aid in targeted PK, KD boosting or harassment. This will increase the sense of unknown when you're out hunting, and also searching for PK, hopefully incentivising more players to come back, grind away without fear of being targeted, but also knowing PK could arrive, at the same time incentivising more players to take part in PK, not knowing who you will find or where. I believe this is a really big one that hasn't been mentioned much, if at all, that could make a huge difference in the way PK/KD/Boosting works.

I realise I've gone off topic a bit, but it's all relavent :)

"NIXHER"If KD ratio is to remain, PvP NEEDS to change...

~It first needs a reset; the game has changed so much in the last few years, and plenty of players have KD boosted, at present nobody's KD ratio is an accurate representation of skill, gear or pvp success in the games current PVP dynamics, and if its to change further, resetting it would be even more necessary.

~PK range needs to be lowered, ideally to 5 below and 10 above; this means you cannot farm players much lower than you, a 20 lvl gap is HUGE in regards to stats and gear, killing someone lvl 105 at 125 requires zero skill whatsoever, it also gives those a chance who are 115+ to join in endgame PK if they think they're Man/Woman enough.

~Attacking wicked/devil morale characters needs to be altered to 10 below and 20 above, again preventing certain aspects of grieffing and/or KD boosting.

~I've been toying with the idea that wicked/devil morale players need some sort of safe haven. I realise it goes against the point of being negative morale, and there should be some sort of cool down, limit, entry fee or some control over how it would be used, but to have NOWHERE safe, seems a little odd. Plus a better gypo/PK Town would be nice, get all the naughty gits socialising in one place, accessed by negative morale players only, but not whilst grey, obviously.

~Flinch needs adding back in, and the issues surrounding it fixing, it was a good mechanic with a small fault and adds another dynamic to PVP.

~I'm going to mention it; multiple procs... Hitting with 3x spells at once is OP, warriors agree, mages agree, hsoma and dsoma, enough said, it should be changed.

~Toe to toe PvP is dead, this is a shame, its partly due to almost every char having 5th axe, its been mentioned allot, but nothing changed as of yet. There's ALLOT of different options here, but a common one is raising the skill required for all 5ths to 200, and giving mages 4th staff at 200 skill, raising the skill required for ALL weapons in the Shak & Nega teir, and reducing max skill gains to 399.This would firstly remove stone from alot of mages, but give them 4th, which changes things, secondly it would remove stone from a few warriors who would like to use nega weps in their chosen class, you shouldn't really be able to use 2x nega weps, defeats the object of classes at all. Alot of controversial points in this one, but PvP is stale, and big changes need to be made, unless you all want to run around avoiding getting 5th axed for the next 5 years or whatever.

~When pressing warp and you have ressurection scrolls in your inventory, it should warp you to town using a scroll, rather than drop items, this gives people a chance to escape when confronted with multiple enemies whilst alone, risking getting repeatedly stoned, killed, and eventually risking penalty xp or even dropping gear. I also think the revive range should be slightly increased.

~Something I don't think has been mentioned, /pos & /lastonline. /pos needs to be changed to just show Pos, online or not, and /lastonline removed, or changed to show just the date. This will mean that people aren't logging on, checking who's about, and logging off, at present, most players have a /pos macro and it's being exploited to aid in targeted PK, KD boosting or harassment. This will increase the sense of unknown when you're out hunting, and also searching for PK, hopefully incentivising more players to come back, grind away without fear of being targeted, but also knowing PK could arrive, at the same time incentivising more players to take part in PK, not knowing who you will find or where. I believe this is a really big one that hasn't been mentioned much, if at all, that could make a huge difference in the way PK/KD/Boosting works.

I realise I've gone off topic a bit, but it's all relavent :)

"NIXHER"
~I've been toying with the idea that wicked/devil morale players need some sort of safe haven. I realise it goes against the point of being negative morale, and there should be some sort of cool down, limit, entry fee or some control over how it would be used, but to have NOWHERE safe, seems a little odd. Plus a better gypo/PK Town would be nice, get all the naughty gits socialising in one place, accessed by negative morale players only, but not whilst grey, obviously.

"NIXHER"
~Flinch needs adding back in, and the issues surrounding it fixing, it was a good mechanic with a small fault and adds another dynamic to PVP.

"NIXHER"
~I'm going to mention it; multiple procs... Hitting with 3x spells at once is OP, warriors agree, mages agree, hsoma and dsoma, enough said, it should be changed.

"NIXHER"
~When pressing warp and you have ressurection scrolls in your inventory, it should warp you to town using a scroll, rather than drop items, this gives people a chance to escape when confronted with multiple enemies whilst alone, risking getting repeatedly stoned, killed, and eventually risking penalty xp or even dropping gear. I also think the revive range should be slightly increased

"NIXHER"
~Something I don't think has been mentioned, /pos & /lastonline. /pos needs to be changed to just show Pos, online or not, and /lastonline removed, or changed to show just the date. This will mean that people aren't logging on, checking who's about, and logging off, at present, most players have a /pos macro and it's being exploited to aid in targeted PK, KD boosting or harassment. This will increase the sense of unknown when you're out hunting, and also searching for PK, hopefully incentivising more players to come back, grind away without fear of being targeted, but also knowing PK could arrive, at the same time incentivising more players to take part in PK, not knowing who you will find or where. I believe this is a really big one that hasn't been mentioned much, if at all, that could make a huge difference in the way PK/KD/Boosting works.

"NIXHER"If KD ratio is to remain, PvP NEEDS to change...

~It first needs a reset; the game has changed so much in the last few years, and plenty of players have KD boosted, at present nobody's KD ratio is an accurate representation of skill, gear or pvp success in the games current PVP dynamics, and if its to change further, resetting it would be even more necessary.

~PK range needs to be lowered, ideally to 5 below and 10 above; this means you cannot farm players much lower than you, a 20 lvl gap is HUGE in regards to stats and gear, killing someone lvl 105 at 125 requires zero skill whatsoever, it also gives those a chance who are 115+ to join in endgame PK if they think they're Man/Woman enough.

~Attacking wicked/devil morale characters needs to be altered to 10 below and 20 above, again preventing certain aspects of grieffing and/or KD boosting.

~I've been toying with the idea that wicked/devil morale players need some sort of safe haven. I realise it goes against the point of being negative morale, and there should be some sort of cool down, limit, entry fee or some control over how it would be used, but to have NOWHERE safe, seems a little odd. Plus a better gypo/PK Town would be nice, get all the naughty gits socialising in one place, accessed by negative morale players only, but not whilst grey, obviously.

~Flinch needs adding back in, and the issues surrounding it fixing, it was a good mechanic with a small fault and adds another dynamic to PVP.

~I'm going to mention it; multiple procs... Hitting with 3x spells at once is OP, warriors agree, mages agree, hsoma and dsoma, enough said, it should be changed.

~Toe to toe PvP is dead, this is a shame, its partly due to almost every char having 5th axe, its been mentioned allot, but nothing changed as of yet. There's ALLOT of different options here, but a common one is raising the skill required for all 5ths to 200, and giving mages 4th staff at 200 skill, raising the skill required for ALL weapons in the Shak & Nega teir, and reducing max skill gains to 399.This would firstly remove stone from alot of mages, but give them 4th, which changes things, secondly it would remove stone from a few warriors who would like to use nega weps in their chosen class, you shouldn't really be able to use 2x nega weps, defeats the object of classes at all. Alot of controversial points in this one, but PvP is stale, and big changes need to be made, unless you all want to run around avoiding getting 5th axed for the next 5 years or whatever.

~When pressing warp and you have ressurection scrolls in your inventory, it should warp you to town using a scroll, rather than drop items, this gives people a chance to escape when confronted with multiple enemies whilst alone, risking getting repeatedly stoned, killed, and eventually risking penalty xp or even dropping gear. I also think the revive range should be slightly increased.

~Something I don't think has been mentioned, /pos & /lastonline. /pos needs to be changed to just show Pos, online or not, and /lastonline removed, or changed to show just the date. This will mean that people aren't logging on, checking who's about, and logging off, at present, most players have a /pos macro and it's being exploited to aid in targeted PK, KD boosting or harassment. This will increase the sense of unknown when you're out hunting, and also searching for PK, hopefully incentivising more players to come back, grind away without fear of being targeted, but also knowing PK could arrive, at the same time incentivising more players to take part in PK, not knowing who you will find or where. I believe this is a really big one that hasn't been mentioned much, if at all, that could make a huge difference in the way PK/KD/Boosting works.

I realise I've gone off topic a bit, but it's all relavent :)

KAZOKU[i agree, however i also believe you cant just remove it without adding something, as mages rely heavily on procs to get kills, as the spell speed becomes easy to pot/quote]

limit proc to 1 spell per time or even remove proc all together and uncap ma and lets face it most of dsoma mages can 1 bang some1 with poverty gear

"SYONIDE"

KAZOKU[i agree, however i also believe you cant just remove it without adding something, as mages rely heavily on procs to get kills, as the spell speed becomes easy to pot/quote]

limit proc to 1 spell per time or even remove proc all together and uncap ma and lets face it most of dsoma mages can 1 bang some1 with poverty gear

The biggest issue limiting it to 1 proc means every1 will go just db as its strongest and all others will be redundant

And the ma cap isn't relevant in dsoma as nobody can hit it against another char, if proc got removed completely magic interupt on hit should be removed too

"H4WKEYE"

"SYONIDE"

KAZOKU[i agree, however i also believe you cant just remove it without adding something, as mages rely heavily on procs to get kills, as the spell speed becomes easy to pot/quote]

limit proc to 1 spell per time or even remove proc all together and uncap ma and lets face it most of dsoma mages can 1 bang some1 with poverty gear

The biggest issue limiting it to 1 proc means every1 will go just db as its strongest and all others will be redundant

And the ma cap isn't relevant in dsoma as nobody can hit it against another char, if proc got removed completely magic interupt on hit should be removed too

lazarus back in the days with full ma could still 1 bang with no proc a meele it just requires more planning and skill to pull it off than now