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Why remove it completely?

Only a handful number of players of players decided to make a mockery of it and probably wanted this reaction, it was perfectly fine up until then. All that needs to be done is wipe their kills that they abused and let life carry on. Also, K/D isn't even displayed by most of the people that complain about it, so it can't be that big of a deal...
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[quote="GENTRY"]Why remove it completely? Only a handful number of players of players decided to make a mockery of it and probably wanted this reaction, it was perfectly fine up until then. All that needs to be done is wipe their kills that they abused and let life carry on. Also, K/D isn't even displayed by most of the people that complain about it, so it can't be that big of a deal... [/quote]
@Yoshi, I've deleted your post as I want to keep this on-topic around the subject of KD. If you want to discuss this bit further then pm me.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]@Yoshi, I've deleted your post as I want to keep this on-topic around the subject of KD. If you want to discuss this bit further then pm me. [/quote]
"GENTRY"Why remove it completely?

Only a handful number of players of players decided to make a mockery of it and probably wanted this reaction, it was perfectly fine up until then. All that needs to be done is wipe their kills that they abused and let life carry on. Also, K/D isn't even displayed by most of the people that complain about it, so it can't be that big of a deal...


Whilst I would normally agree, there have been too many players abusing the system for too long on all sides. Here is 1 example of the Discord admin making a mockery of the system.

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[quote="YOSHIMIKA"][quote="GENTRY"]Why remove it completely? Only a handful number of players of players decided to make a mockery of it and probably wanted this reaction, it was perfectly fine up until then. All that needs to be done is wipe their kills that they abused and let life carry on. Also, K/D isn't even displayed by most of the people that complain about it, so it can't be that big of a deal... [/quote] Whilst I would normally agree, there have been too many players abusing the system for too long on all sides. Here is 1 example of the Discord admin making a mockery of the system. [img]https://i.ibb.co/wWcD6B6/agreed.jpg[/img][/quote]
If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?
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[quote="H4WKEYE"]If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?[/quote]
"H4WKEYE"If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?


Remove Immunity after level 115/120 would be good. This would protect new players and would put an end to people abusing immunity to safely participate at bosses.

Corleone

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[quote="GRIMPIRATE"][quote="H4WKEYE"]If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?[/quote] Remove Immunity after level 115/120 would be good. This would protect new players and would put an end to people abusing immunity to safely participate at bosses. Corleone [/quote]
"H4WKEYE"If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?


yes or 1 guild could control a spawn

or continually PK someone and stop them hunting?
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[quote="MAGEY"][quote="H4WKEYE"]If it does get fully removed is there a need for the 1 hour immunity?[/quote] yes or 1 guild could control a spawn or continually PK someone and stop them hunting? [/quote]
Certain individuals work around that anyway qith mob luring and mob stealing so whats the difference?
If today has proven anything its that if people are childish enough and hellbent on getting at someone they will find ways to do it
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[quote="H4WKEYE"]Certain individuals work around that anyway qith mob luring and mob stealing so whats the difference? If today has proven anything its that if people are childish enough and hellbent on getting at someone they will find ways to do it[/quote]
Perhaps KD metrics can only be scored using kills/ Deaths from GVW, WotW, Sacred stone and other future sanctioned GM events. Players with a high K to D ratio have only been wasting lower levels anyway.
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[quote="SOMCHAI"]Perhaps KD metrics can only be scored using kills/ Deaths from GVW, WotW, Sacred stone and other future sanctioned GM events. Players with a high K to D ratio have only been wasting lower levels anyway.[/quote]
My succinct reply is :-

Keep KDR.

Remember where the community (and yourselves, iSylver and Finito) have come from, the journey that is.

The highs of the Crystal Prophecy to the growth of apathy between both the community and the GMs.

KDR was healthy for 5 years of the server but its now the only publicly visible metric that people are left to go on at end game.

The end game has people farming for thousands of hours and then some, and the more you commit time, the more they are frustrated by the game along with that feeling of apathy.

Your advisors/moderators can improve the community and make KDR "work" like it once did, remove it and you're cutting off the one life force a few people have. Something you cant blame on them but more the lack of the game moving on.

Just need to get more content in the server, you have plenty of willingness and for GMs to regain a desire to work on the game a long with actively improving the community. A two way thing may I add.

If you do remove it though, you need to bring in the /partywar thing that people have been asking for, at least.

[Edit, maybe not succinct]
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]My succinct reply is :- Keep KDR. Remember where the community (and yourselves, iSylver and Finito) have come from, the journey that is. The highs of the Crystal Prophecy to the growth of apathy between both the community and the GMs. KDR was healthy for 5 years of the server but its now the only publicly visible metric that people are left to go on at end game. The end game has people farming for thousands of hours and then some, and the more you commit time, the more they are frustrated by the game along with that feeling of apathy. Your advisors/moderators can improve the community and make KDR "work" like it once did, remove it and you're cutting off the one life force a few people have. Something you cant blame on them but more the lack of the game moving on. Just need to get more content in the server, you have plenty of willingness and for GMs to regain a desire to work on the game a long with actively improving the community. A two way thing may I add. If you do remove it though, you need to bring in the /partywar thing that people have been asking for, at least. [Edit, maybe not succinct][/quote]
remove it or add a /pvpon /pvpoff in addition to the existing limits i.e. pvp prevention.

This would mean less folks getting hammered cause someone is 'doing the rounds' against lowbies and folks who do not pvp period.
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[quote="TYPHIN"]remove it or add a /pvpon /pvpoff in addition to the existing limits i.e. pvp prevention. This would mean less folks getting hammered cause someone is 'doing the rounds' against lowbies and folks who do not pvp period.[/quote]
Typhin has a nice suggestion. Giving consent to Pk or join a fight would give the KDR validity, not that the donkeys currently abusing it actually care though.
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[quote="SOMCHAI"]Typhin has a nice suggestion. Giving consent to Pk or join a fight would give the KDR validity, not that the donkeys currently abusing it actually care though.[/quote]
Remove KD but change immunity back to 30mins.
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[quote="DARE"]Remove KD but change immunity back to 30mins.[/quote]
just make it so kills only count if they are withen 1-5 levels would stop 125's pking lower levels
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"]just make it so kills only count if they are withen 1-5 levels would stop 125's pking lower levels[/quote]
Remove kd ratio and enhance player feed
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[quote="THANCRUS"]Remove kd ratio and enhance player feed [/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"All the kd does is create hostility within the game and it’s Soma that loses in the end.

For the player killer it’s an ego “ just take the 2 deaths comment is all they give you “

For the player killed it’s pride “ being told just take your 2 deaths, pk means nothing “

Plenty of players have left due to this pointless stat that the majority of mature players realise it means nothing. Surely if your a good pvp you can remember who you killed or not without it being on a feed.

Egos and Pride, if kd means so much to some make a lvl 1 turn it devil and farm it 24/7




Agreed just leave the feed up and people can make videos of the pk wars to promote the server like DL & Starwars does. Kd means nothing with immunity being a thing anyway.
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[quote="ZYZZ"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]All the kd does is create hostility within the game and it’s Soma that loses in the end. For the player killer it’s an ego “ just take the 2 deaths comment is all they give you “ For the player killed it’s pride “ being told just take your 2 deaths, pk means nothing “ Plenty of players have left due to this pointless stat that the majority of mature players realise it means nothing. Surely if your a good pvp you can remember who you killed or not without it being on a feed. Egos and Pride, if kd means so much to some make a lvl 1 turn it devil and farm it 24/7 [/quote] Agreed just leave the feed up and people can make videos of the pk wars to promote the server like DL & Starwars does. Kd means nothing with immunity being a thing anyway.[/quote]

 

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