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[quote="STYLE"]True, didn't think of thst side of it! Guess the true test is the next 3 nights![/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]If it proc's zombie, make it cast it on the user themselves as well. That'd make shit interesting.[/quote]

[quote="LONGS"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"]If it proc's zombie, make it cast it on the user themselves as well. That'd make shit interesting.[/quote] Thinking outside the box, I like it[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]What drops the magic pouches and how long does 100 take on dsoma?[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="FUJITORA"]What drops the magic pouches and how long does 100 take on dsoma?[/quote] Gargoyle shaman drop Unknown stones which are weight 20 each. You trade 10 unknown stones for 1 pouch at Zarith (the WH keeper).[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]Probably going to sound like a bit of a moan but whatever... i find it mighty unfair that devils can get all of the items without even having conti 1) GS are in dungeon? 2+3)WBM in hwan drop the metal and meat (Since literally every single high level bar mages will hunt these, I guess these are easy to get) Compare that to humans. 1 )The eye only drops from conti nms 2) Drazil livers drop from a mob no one hunts at all (Blg better stats and drop file), which doesnt have a single specific spawn (mixed with elite liz 3) I guess prism could be relatively straight forward similar to WBM as people actually hunt them. I did near 1.5 hours at Drazil with Garp (only killing drazil including a lot of running to skip elite liz, doesnt help when they spawn across half the map without a decent condensed spawn) Dunno if was just unlucky but I got a grand total of 0 livers. I will probably try again at some point in the future and see how it goes I generally believe I have a reasonably fair point in regarding the devils being able to get everything without even having conti and humans requiring conti for 2/3 and the issue with nobody hunting Drazil and everyone WBM... End rant.[/quote]

[quote="MONSTER"]Dev zombie is not easy to get, 1k unknown stones , i went there and can get about 10 an hour (at my lvl 4 hitting them) miner metal takes long also, its just the fact everyone already had alot Basicly 1K unknown stones u will not achieve unless u train a mage to 120-130 int, then u might have hit 1k in total, devils blood took 100 hours to get, so its easily 400hours of hunting for items, its just we had kept our stones ect, so we had alot of it already done, whereas urs are new items, a mage starting from scratch in dsoma would take incredibly long Getting it without conti on the other hand i dont know, but also gotta take in mind we are a mage ONLY surely things have to be different, slightly better for us than a hsoma mage[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Adding to what Monster said, mages do not hunt WBM.[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Adding to what Monster said, mages do not hunt WBM.[/quote] Thats not the point, Anyone who wants to learn the spell req 120 int, so does not hunt prismatic shadow either. The point was the entirety of dsoma (Almost) hunts wbm so obtaining the metal / meat shouldnt be too difficult as with prismatic crystals. Probably willing most devils have these items sitting in their wh before they even knew it was req for the spell because people actually hunt wbm. I hope the drazil conti / spawn issue would be looked into, because devils can get theirs in hwan from a mob that has its own specific spawn, and humans can only get it from conti drazils which nobody even hunts and doesnt have its own spawn... By all means let it have a low drop rate and take 300 hours or whatever it takes devils to get it, Just would be nice if humans can also hunt the livers off blg in abais / vod in the same way that devils can. (Or even give the drop to elite liz also, because the drazil spawn is shite) [/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]I see where you're coming from, and I agree. Now what would concern me is that its only 120int for hsoma, every tom, dick and harry will have zombie. Its bad enough people spam weaken and slow, but zombie on pretty much all attendees of wotw will be a bit OTT especially with INT being the pilot's #1 training stat. 160int seems to be more of a 'Mage only spell' int requirement.[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]I see where you're coming from, and I agree. Now what would concern me is that its only 120int for hsoma, every tom, dick and harry will have zombie. Its bad enough people spam weaken and slow, but zombie on pretty much all attendees of wotw will be a bit OTT especially with INT being the pilot's #1 training stat. 160int seems to be more of a 'Mage only spell' int requirement.[/quote] You're highly mistaken if you think "every tom dick and harry" will have that spell. Those items alone would mean you'll spend a shit load more time even if you went to conti nm's and hunted them from 100-120 you still wouldn't have anywhere near enough items, let alone the prism crystals. I do agree with the int being raised though, 139 to be inline with the last staff? Or must have over X staff skill to use?[/quote]

[quote="NOTMAT"]What items/quantity do humans need for Zombie?[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]70 horror eye which drops at less than 1 eye per 1.5 hours untradeable from conti only (devil equivalent would be unknown stones which they can hunt wvhn when they dont have conti) 50 drazil liver, for which I've done about 4 hours now (most of the time just running around looking for drazils since they dont have their own spawn) and had 0. (Again devils can hunt these without conti, and since all devils hunt wbm anyway they are probably easy to get) 80 prism crystal which is relatively straight forward as there are people hunting prisms with them for sale. Every tom dick and harry will have 139 int by cap, >>IF<< you want to make it a "mage" spell, it needs to be 150 or 160 int req.[/quote]

[quote="BRAINDATA"]I think this was intentional Fuji to get more humans at wotw[/quote]

[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Perhaps the spell should have a staff skill requirement as well as int?[/quote]