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200 staff skill, 176 int - cheers.
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[quote="QUIMM"]200 staff skill, 176 int - cheers. [/quote]
I think its dumb too. How long its going to take us Humans to get the new spells in comparison to how long it took the devils is absurd. Plus it seems by reading this thread that its easier for them too. I would agree with a lot of the humans in the thread.

If devils get the drops w.o having conti then we should too...
120 int req is too low. Make it 140 and give it a skill req too.
Also remove the green pants lol.
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[quote="NITE"]I think its dumb too. How long its going to take us Humans to get the new spells in comparison to how long it took the devils is absurd. Plus it seems by reading this thread that its easier for them too. I would agree with a lot of the humans in the thread. If devils get the drops w.o having conti then we should too... 120 int req is too low. Make it 140 and give it a skill req too. Also remove the green pants lol.[/quote]
I retract my statement re pants from human perspective.
Wasn't that bad at gv actually. Caught me and the fat digits off guard a couple of times ;[
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[quote="CN"]I retract my statement re pants from human perspective. Wasn't that bad at gv actually. Caught me and the fat digits off guard a couple of times ;[[/quote]
Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.
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[quote="KEKKET"]Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.[/quote]
"KEKKET"Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.


So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.?

Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)
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[quote="NITE"][quote="KEKKET"]Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.[/quote] So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.? Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)[/quote]
I didnt say that i said that weakening is harder 2 obtain as a devil just like zombie spell is harder for humans. But what if all humans with 120+ int would get the zombie spell in less then 2 weeks? I think that nobody wants that. I do think that human mats should drop outside conti just like devil side and it might need a upgrade on droprate. But keep in mind there are only a handfull of devils that have 120+ int.
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[quote="KEKKET"]I didnt say that i said that weakening is harder 2 obtain as a devil just like zombie spell is harder for humans. But what if all humans with 120+ int would get the zombie spell in less then 2 weeks? I think that nobody wants that. I do think that human mats should drop outside conti just like devil side and it might need a upgrade on droprate. But keep in mind there are only a handfull of devils that have 120+ int.[/quote]
"NITE"
"KEKKET"Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.


So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.?

Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)


Lol Nite pls mate, the devs that have zombie had a fair bulk of the mats stored up in their wh BEFORE zombie was even announced hence how they got it so quickly. Try getting the mats for zombie from scratch then post again lol. Most seem to be in agreement that 120 int is too low anyway.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NITE"][quote="KEKKET"]Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.[/quote] So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.? Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)[/quote] Lol Nite pls mate, the devs that have zombie had a fair bulk of the mats stored up in their wh BEFORE zombie was even announced hence how they got it so quickly. Try getting the mats for zombie from scratch then post again lol. Most seem to be in agreement that 120 int is too low anyway. [/quote]
Think only "pure mage" should be able to get that spell. What kind of magic is it on human side anyway black, blue or White?
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[quote="KEKKET"]Think only "pure mage" should be able to get that spell. What kind of magic is it on human side anyway black, blue or White? [/quote]
"CARNAGE"
"NITE"
"KEKKET"Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.


So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.?

Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)


Lol Nite pls mate, the devs that have zombie had a fair bulk of the mats stored up in their wh BEFORE zombie was even announced hence how they got it so quickly. Try getting the mats for zombie from scratch then post again lol. Most seem to be in agreement that 120 int is too low anyway.


You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti.

Put drops in abias / vod aswell as conti easy fix. and up the req.
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[quote="NITE"][quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NITE"][quote="KEKKET"]Cant compare human and devil mats to obtain as devil weakening is harder to get as humans.[/quote] So what you're saying is that its OK that devils already have Zombie after 2 weeks or less.? Because It will take around half a year at the rate the mats drop for us Humans. :) (It takes less than half a year to get 120int lol)[/quote] Lol Nite pls mate, the devs that have zombie had a fair bulk of the mats stored up in their wh BEFORE zombie was even announced hence how they got it so quickly. Try getting the mats for zombie from scratch then post again lol. Most seem to be in agreement that 120 int is too low anyway. [/quote] You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti. Put drops in abias / vod aswell as conti easy fix. and up the req. [/quote]
"NITE"You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti.


What he said.

As I said every tom dick and harry on hsoma has about 120 and I rekon 145 int will be minimum even for the str/dex heavy characters.

I think the req could be 156 int or even 166 int if you wanted to make it a mage specific spell.
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="NITE"]You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti. [/quote] What he said. As I said every tom dick and harry on hsoma has about 120 and I rekon 145 int will be minimum even for the str/dex heavy characters. I think the req could be 156 int or even 166 int if you wanted to make it a mage specific spell.[/quote]
"NITE"

You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti.

Put drops in abias / vod aswell as conti easy fix. and up the req.


That's a question only staff can answer though because it's not like the mages that have it knew what mats would be required and what quantity. They saved their mats from early/mid game and it paid off.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NITE"] You all seem to miss the point. Why did the mages have the mats already?.... How is it fair that we have to start from scratch. and that we can only get the mats from Conti. Put drops in abias / vod aswell as conti easy fix. and up the req. [/quote] That's a question only staff can answer though because it's not like the mages that have it knew what mats would be required and what quantity. They saved their mats from early/mid game and it paid off.[/quote]
Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs
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[quote="HEARTSAUCE"]Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs [/quote]
"HEARTSAUCE"Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs


sigh... ¬_¬
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[quote="NITE"][quote="HEARTSAUCE"]Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs [/quote] sigh... ¬_¬[/quote]
"NITE"
"HEARTSAUCE"Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs


sigh... ¬_¬


True, i still have a headace tht i sold my 700 lizard eyes :'(
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[quote="KEKKET"][quote="NITE"][quote="HEARTSAUCE"]Stop crafting so much and save your stuff. Us Devils prepare for the best n00bs [/quote] sigh... ¬_¬[/quote] True, i still have a headace tht i sold my 700 lizard eyes :'([/quote]
Is this spell op? We are yet to really determine imo, Needs a good few weeks monitoring.

However, i don't agree with all these comments from hsoma as it needs to be as easy to get as dsoma.

Dsoma mages needed a buff....Hsoma mages do not.
A new spell is introduced, why should it be equal effort from both sides?
The spell is obviously poweful and gives the devil mages a needed boost. By no means have i seen it in action to understand if it is op, but that is besides the point.

Hsoma mages however, are the most dominant class on hsoma and do not need a boost. This spell being very hard to achieve is a good thing.
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[quote="CYROX"]Is this spell op? We are yet to really determine imo, Needs a good few weeks monitoring. However, i don't agree with all these comments from hsoma as it needs to be as easy to get as dsoma. Dsoma mages needed a buff....Hsoma mages do not. A new spell is introduced, why should it be equal effort from both sides? The spell is obviously poweful and gives the devil mages a needed boost. By no means have i seen it in action to understand if it is op, but that is besides the point. Hsoma mages however, are the most dominant class on hsoma and do not need a boost. This spell being very hard to achieve is a good thing.[/quote]

 

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